Final vote - Pro RKBA Magnet Ribbon
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EricOKC
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mattz357
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SapperLeader
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I like #2 the best. It has a simple message - 2nd amendment, shall not be infringed, and a cryptic part, that might cause a interested party to ask questions. I also think It balances better than #1, #1's design looks like its missing something, since most of the ribbon is covered with writing. i will definitly be buying between 5 and 15 of the final design depending on costs.
Andrew Rothman
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Here's what I'm thinking:
AIDS and breast cancer and support-our-troops and the like NEVER had words on them.
The ribbon shape is now well known as an "I support _____" statement.
They became very popular because wearing one was a relatively simple grass-roots action -- at most it took a safety pin and a trip to the fabric store for 50 feet of ribbon for five bucks.
While these special ribbons are fine, imagine the impact if we EACH made it our job to go get a big roll of silver ribbon and a box of mini-safety pins, and made up a hundred, and GAVE THEM AWAY, explaining what they meant, at the next gun show, trip to the range, etc.
THIS is how movements get started -- not by selling trinkets that, frankly, you have to ALREAD be pretty committed to bother ordering and spending money on.
BONUS: With no writing, MANY more people will ask what you are supporting, expecting an answer like "diabetes" or "colon cancer" or something.
I'm not discouraging the ribbons above -- they certainly won't hurt the effort, but they'll frankly be a pretty small part of helping it.
In the classic words of Randy Newman, "I could be wrong now... But I don't think so!"
AIDS and breast cancer and support-our-troops and the like NEVER had words on them.
The ribbon shape is now well known as an "I support _____" statement.
They became very popular because wearing one was a relatively simple grass-roots action -- at most it took a safety pin and a trip to the fabric store for 50 feet of ribbon for five bucks.
While these special ribbons are fine, imagine the impact if we EACH made it our job to go get a big roll of silver ribbon and a box of mini-safety pins, and made up a hundred, and GAVE THEM AWAY, explaining what they meant, at the next gun show, trip to the range, etc.
THIS is how movements get started -- not by selling trinkets that, frankly, you have to ALREAD be pretty committed to bother ordering and spending money on.
BONUS: With no writing, MANY more people will ask what you are supporting, expecting an answer like "diabetes" or "colon cancer" or something.
I'm not discouraging the ribbons above -- they certainly won't hurt the effort, but they'll frankly be a pretty small part of helping it.
In the classic words of Randy Newman, "I could be wrong now... But I don't think so!"
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Henry Bowman
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Matt, my thoughts (and feelings) exactly. That is what I had in mind. That is why I suggested a single color, not a brown/gray or black/silver stripe.
One exception: Almost all the magnetic "ribbons" on cars do include some words -- even the ubiquitous yellow ones.
One exception: Almost all the magnetic "ribbons" on cars do include some words -- even the ubiquitous yellow ones.
dav
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I like 2, then 1, but will buy either.
I figure you are going to have to explain "infringe what?" anyway, might as well put the RKBA there, too.
But, my license plate is 'CA RKBA', so what do I know?
I figure you are going to have to explain "infringe what?" anyway, might as well put the RKBA there, too.
But, my license plate is 'CA RKBA', so what do I know?
Mostly Harmless
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I agree about the ribbons on pins.
Silver/grey ribbon and brooch pins are easily available at craft stores or Walmart. It's a matter of a couple of minutes to cut a piece of ribbon, fold it, glue it to the pin.
I've got a domestic violence ribbon on my cube wall. The ribbon is 6" long (and 1/4" wide), longer than it looks because of the way it's folded. I'll drop by the craft store on the way home and price up ribbon and pins. If they've got the right stuff, I'll even make up a sample. I'll post the cost per ribbon and time it takes to make them as soon as I've got samples to show.
If they're as quick and easy as I think they'll be I'm more than willing to make up several hundred and send them to anyone who thinks they can give them away -- cover postage and they'll be yours.
Silver/grey ribbon and brooch pins are easily available at craft stores or Walmart. It's a matter of a couple of minutes to cut a piece of ribbon, fold it, glue it to the pin.
I've got a domestic violence ribbon on my cube wall. The ribbon is 6" long (and 1/4" wide), longer than it looks because of the way it's folded. I'll drop by the craft store on the way home and price up ribbon and pins. If they've got the right stuff, I'll even make up a sample. I'll post the cost per ribbon and time it takes to make them as soon as I've got samples to show.
If they're as quick and easy as I think they'll be I'm more than willing to make up several hundred and send them to anyone who thinks they can give them away -- cover postage and they'll be yours.
Dav - You are so right! Also, sadly to say, I'm willing to bet that one out of four average Americans have no idea what the "2nd Amendment" is all about... want to bet?
My point is: The more questions it poses, the more opportunities I have to explain away our cause.
My point is: The more questions it poses, the more opportunities I have to explain away our cause.
dav
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No takers on that one here, oldfella.
But honestly, I don't know all of them either. Just the ones I consider important to me.
I think I need to go do some more studying.
Henry Bowman
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dav -- Next I'll post a "What Color is the Third Amendment?" thread over on the noquarteringofsoldiersduringpeacetime.org website. Perhaps HoJo orange?
dav
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Thanks oldfella. Good to reread those documents every once in a while.
Sure makes me wish legislators would speak English, though, instead of bureaucratese.
Sure makes me wish legislators would speak English, though, instead of bureaucratese.
mattz357
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With #1 and#2 almost tied, we may have enough demand for both, but we'll have to recount the votes since a lot of people said they would take #1 OR #2.
mattz357
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oldfella, that would be a good idea for someone who has a lot of gun shows/shops in their area, but I don't. Not only that, but I don't want to lay that kind of money out unless I'm sure they are sold, my wife would kill me if I got stuck with 200 magnets!
Mattz - I hear what you're saying, and I don't have that kind of money either; I do believe, however, that repeat buys/sales will take place once these ribbons get around. Out of the ten I'm ordering, I'll be giving away at least five right away to gunsmiths/shops and pawnshops I frequent. They in turn will probably be inquiring "where can I buy more of these ribbons". I think many others will also have the same experience. Maybe some one here may want to volunteer to put up the money and reap the rewards.
Mattz357, you wouldn't get stuck with that many magnets. I could move a lot more than 10 of those. All anyone would have to do is drop several off at some sporting goods stores and gun shops. I'm sure they would sell. I mean those yellow and those red-white-blue ribbon magets are ALLOVER the place (and every single gas-n-shop store has stacks of them). So moving a couple of hundred of them would be no problem I'm sure.
mattz357
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Do we want to cut off the voting this weekend? If we want to get these before Christmas we need to make sure the order is placed within the next two weeks or so. Keep voting! Thanks!
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