FINALLY!!!!!!! It's about time!

[Navy87Guy]

With an MSRP price of $800 (I can live with that), the only drawback I can see on this gun is that stupid, straight-backed, Vertex style grip.

It’s the differences that make this country great…I sold my M9 but my 92G Vertec is awesome!

 

[AlexanderA]

Never a problem, but with Taurus' inconsistency such that is, I'm afraid to roll the dice on another one

If you want a consistently high-quality Taurus, get one from the mid-90's instead of the current production.

The 1989 vintage Taurus (top image) does not have the decocker feature, whereas the 1994 version (bottom) does. To decock, you press the safety lever downwards.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

If you want a consistently high-quality Taurus, get one from the mid-90's instead of the current production.

The 1989 vintage Taurus (top image) does not have the decocker feature, whereas the 1994 version (bottom) does. To decock, you press the safety lever downwards.

Good advice. Yeah, I've thought about that. One of the things that keeps me from doing it is I'd have to go tot he used market which is kind of a free for all. Who knows what you're going to get.

Mine had the downward sweeping decocker, center (press down form safe) to fire and lift up for safe. So I guess it was at least post 1994. (I bought it new in 1997.)

 

[D.B. Cooper]

...the magazines are not interchangeable.

So...supposedly... you can use a dremel to cut a small notch in just the right place to make a Beretta mag fit a Taurus or a Taurus mag fit a Beretta. Have't tried it myself.

 

[AlexanderA]

So...supposedly... you can use a dremel to cut a small notch in just the right place to make a Beretta mag fit a Taurus or a Taurus mag fit a Beretta. Have't tried it myself.

The Beretta locking slot (in the magazine) is longer and narrower, while the Taurus slot is shorter and wider. The thing is, these slots are in exactly the same place on the magazine. So, using a square needle file, you can take a Taurus magazine and lengthen the slot in the very center, to fit the magazine in a Beretta. (You can do the equivalent for a Beretta magazine to fit a Taurus, but it's more work since more metal needs to be removed.)

Taiwan-made aftermarket magazines are plentiful and cheap (and fairly high quality), so there's no need to do this to a factory magazine. Some of the aftermarket magazines are already altered so as to fit both guns.

Around the year 2000, Taurus went from 15-round mags to 18-round mags. Either of these can be used in any age gun. In fact, the 18-round mags still have the notch for the heel release, so they can be used in both early Tauruses and early Berettas with the heel release. You can identify Taurus 18-round mags by the yellow followers.

I don't like the cheap folded-metal floorplates on Taurus magazines. Fortunately, these are interchangeable with Beretta floorplates. In the picture of the Tauruses that I posted above, those are unmarked aluminum Beretta floorplates. (The current new Beretta floorplates are plastic, with the Beretta logo, so the unmarked ones are a little hard to come by.)

 

[D.B. Cooper]

Taiwan-made aftermarket magazines are plentiful and cheap (and fairly high quality), so there's no need to do this to a factory magazine. Some of the aftermarket magazines are already altered so as to fit both guns.

I've never heard that. I'll have to go check my Mec-Gars. (Not that it really matters; I don't need to convert mags, although, that is one reason I don't go back to Taurus.)

...the 18-round mags still have the notch for the heel release, so they can be used in both early Tauruses and early Berettas with the heel release.

IIRC, the Beretta mags have the heel release notches as well, so they will work with the 92S that AIM Surplus et al were selling a few years back. (The heel release was the only reason I didn't buy one.)

 

[Tallball]

My PT99 is from 1990. Still works great.

 

[AlexanderA]

I've never heard that. I'll have to go check my Mec-Gars. (Not that it really matters; I don't need to convert mags, although, that is one reason I don't go back to Taurus.)

The go-to place for the Taiwanese magazines (for Taurus, Beretta, and/or both) is Robertson Trading Post in Henderson, TN. It looks like they're the ones who import them, and then they get spread around. These are indistinguishable from factory mags, except that they lack markings. There's a "Made in Taiwan" sticker on the packaging. Typically about $19 each.

IIRC, the Beretta mags have the heel release notches as well, so they will work with the 92S that AIM Surplus et al were selling a few years back.

Some current Beretta mags have the heel notch, and some don't. Generally the Italian-made mags do, and the U.S.-made ones don't.

 

[Shawn Dodson]

The current Taurus PT92 has a decocker plus a manual safety, at half the price of this Beretta.

I like Taurus PT92's frame mounted safety much better.

It can be carried cocked & locked.

It also decocks.

I've been wanting a PT92 for years. I came this close to buying one about a dozen years ago.

 

[doubleh]

Yeah, I'm basically a "Taurus-hater" but the only Taurus I ever personally owned (PT99) was a great gun. Never a problem, but with Taurus' inconsistency such that is, I'm afraid to roll the dice on another one, so I stick with Beretta. Just wish they'd figure out how to put the safety in the proper place.

Six for me and one each for a couple of grandsons. No problems, ever. I would by another if they come out with something I can't live without.

 

[Miami_JBT]

Yeah but then you have Taurus. (Although, the one I had in the 90s was actually quite good. Don't think I'll own another, though.)

If I want a frame mounted safety/decocker, I'll stick with my Taurus made pre-1997 guns.

 

[tercel89]

I hate to be the "Deby Downer" but here lately , every other new gun I see or handle from the Tennessee plant has some flaw or bad quality control problem with it. I have gotten to where I only buy used Beretta's unless they are built in Italy still like the PX4. I'm a Tennessee native and it hurts me to say it but they were made better in Maryland and Italy in my opinion and experiences. I'll stick with Italy and used ones whether it has slide-mounted levers or not.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

I hate to be the "Deby Downer" but here lately , every other new gun I see or handle from the Tennessee plant has some flaw or bad quality control problem with it. I have gotten to where I only buy used Beretta's unless they are built in Italy still like the PX4. I'm a Tennessee native and it hurts me to say it but they were made better in Maryland and Italy in my opinion and experiences. I'll stick with Italy and used ones whether it has slide-mounted levers or not.

You're not the only who feels like that. I'm not sure if mine is from MD or TN, but it has been nothing short of phenomenal. The Italian guns are the FS models. I bought the M9 (so, made in USA) because I prefer the lolipop sight alignment over the three horizontal dots on the 92FS.

Re quality control: let's hope they don't go down the same road that Taurus is on.