Fingerprints can be recovered from spent cases

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...Even after the actual prints have worn or been cleaned off

Scientists have developed a technique for retrieving fingerprints from bullet casings and bomb fragments after they have been fired or detonated. The new method, which relies on subtle corrosion of metal surfaces is already being applied for the first time anywhere in the world by two British police forces.

The patterns of corrosion remain even after the surface has been cleaned, heated to 600C or even painted over. This means that traces of fingerprints stay on the metal long after the residue from a person's finger has gone.

"All other conventional techniques that the police anywhere in the world would use require some kind of either physical or chemical interaction with the fingerprint residue. So for example if you are using powder the powder sticks to the tackiness in the sweat," said Dr John Bond of the University of Leicester and the Scientific Support Unit of Northamptonshire Police. Instead, the technique he has developed relies on permanent physical changes to the metal.

The chemical basis of the change is not yet clear, but Bond believes it is corrosion by chloride ions from the salt in sweat. These produce lines of corrosion along the ridges of the fingerprint residue. When the metal is heated, for example in a bomb blast or when a gun is fired, the chemical reaction actually speeds up and makes the corrosion more pronounced.

To visualise the patterns, Bond's technique involves passing 2500 volts through the metal and sprinkling a fine conducting powder on it. While the electric field is applied, the powder sticks to the corroded areas.

"If the corrosion's there, it will stay there unless you abrasively clean the metal. The only way to get rid of it is to actually take the surface layer of the metal off," he said. "Some metals corrode very well and some not at all. One metal that works very well is brass and gun cartridge cases happen to be made of brass."

He has published details of the technique in the latest issue of the Journal of Forensic Sciences. In his paper he demonstrates that it is possible to recover fingerprints from a bullet casing ejected when a pistol is fired. "As you are pushing the magazine in you are actually putting a thumb print on the bullet," said Bond. "That's the person you want. That's the guy who loaded the gun."

The Metropolitan Police has asked Bond to look into evidence kept from a 10 year old murder case. He is also using the technique on evidence from a recent murder that is being investigated by Lincolnshire police.


Now watch as criminal revolver usage soars...
 
How many persons touch an individual case during its life?

A few, a few dozen? Will overlapping fingerprints mar the ability to get the requisite number of similar points needed for a positive match? I'm a little doubtfull this will actually work.
 
Why wolf?
Why not just wear gloves while loading the brass?
Or use a revolver, or use a firearm stolen from british police. haha.

-T
 
Heck if you are up to something nefarious just ask your ex wife/gf/bf to load a mag for you lol .
Actually i have doubts about this process both in implementation and usefulness in a court of law . Unless and until they can explain it ( even assuming it actually works ) it is worthless in court . No prosecuting attorney is going to say " Your Honor , Gentlemen and Ladies of the jury , Our Wizzard magicked up the prints we showed you pics of ( remember this is not a stable print among other points ) and on that basis this person shot that one because they are tied to a cartage thro some process we cannot explain ( magic ) .
 
Good for them. If they can find a way to solve crimes without infringing upon gun rights and using stupid methods such as microstamping, so be it.

Too bad it doesn't do anything to help the English...:(
 
Use a flamethrower...

People have been killing each other since Cain and Able. I doubt anything will ever change that fact and it is peoples reluctance to accept the fact that human beings are inherently evil that leads to the ideas of banning guns and preventing crimes.

If we all agreed that people are bad no matter what, then we would focus (rightly so) on catching the perps...
 
"As you are pushing the magazine in you are actually putting a thumb print on the bullet," said Bond. "That's the person you want. That's the guy who loaded the gun."

I missed the part where LOADING the mag/gun was 100% indicative of who SHOT the gun.
 
Wow, all that effort when they could have just watched CSI. :rolleyes:

"That's the person you want. That's the guy who loaded the gun."

Yeah, because stolen guns, which happened to be loaded, are never used in crimes, right?
 
Don't get me wrong, this is tres cool, but I've got to wonder about how practical it is. Would enough of the surface of a finger come in contact with a cylinder a fraction of an inch in diameter to record a forensically useful fingerprint, especially if the touch was light and fleeting?
 
So now remember every body... after you shoot some one, collect your casing, run them thru the polisher and then return them to the crime scene...
 
If there is no fingerprint on the expended casing it is conclusive evidence that no one loaded or fired it and that there was no crime.
 
I'd be surprised if even 1 in 100 9mm shell casings with discernible fingerprint marks had sufficient marks to constitute a positive identification.

And how many shell casings will have no discernible fingerprint marks at all, let alone marks sufficient for identification?

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Seems to me that when the casing expands and the chamber during ignition would eradicate any finger prints. That and being scrubbed against the chamber wall when being extracted.
 
Fingerprints on the cartridge cases can keep you out of a first degree murder charge.

Fingerprints on a bomb casing can be eliminated just as easily as prints on a cartridge case and the builder is usually smart enough to prevent contaminating his masterpiece.
 
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