redranger1
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I know that Ruger is on the market to buy stock in and im sure there are others but who? Anybody alse out there have money invested in gun companies on the stock market? Im thinking id like to have at least one in my variety.
Firearms companies you can invest in.
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EvanWilliams
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RGR Ruger
SWCH Smith
SWCH Smith
Zundfolge
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Metal Storm Ltd is publicly traded. http://www.metalstorm.com/
Taurus is publicly traded but I'm not sure what exchange.
Taurus is publicly traded but I'm not sure what exchange.
edSky
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I have stock in:
I passed on RuGeR
- SWHC (Smith and Wesson Holding Company),
- OLIN (the parent of Winchester),
- and my favorite, ATK (the parent of the former "Hercules Powder", RCBS, Speer, etc., and maker of solid-fuel rockets).
I passed on RuGeR
Smokey Joe
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Investing (or, "Scrooge was right the first time!")...
Red Ranger 1--I bought some Ruger a few years ago. Sold it when it went up and pocketed the proceeds.
Now, having said that, I wish to point out that you buy stock in a company for only ONE REASON: to make money. You don't buy stock to "encourage a company," to be a cheerleader, to "join the club," or to show support for whatever the company makes.
The corporation isn't alive; it can't appreciate that you own it nor feel good about you, and if the stock goes down in price or the dividend is cut, it won't send you a sympathy card. The Board of Directors are alive, of course, but their purpose is to manage the company to make money for the shareholders--if they fail to do that, they won't get re-elected.
To use an analogy that has been used on TV as an advertisement, if the corporation can make money making picante sauce, it will make picante sauce. If the directors think they can make more money making oven mitts, instead, they'll junk the picante sauce machinery and make oven mitts, just like that. That's not warm and fuzzy, but it's reality. You want warm and fuzzy, buy a sweater.
Since my owning of Ruger, I'm a wiser stock buyer/seller. There are MANY investments that will make me more money than firearms makers.
In a similar vein, I know that many Harley riders will buy stock in that company, and some people buy Disney stock for their kids. Guess what, people: Neither Harley nor Disney gives a flying darn!
Buy and sell stocks to make money. Whatever stocks make you the most money. Then support firearms ownership and the RKBA by joining and contributing some of your profits to the NRA. (There are other organizations, too, but the NRA is the one the anti's hate. The NRA must be doing something right.)
Red Ranger 1--I bought some Ruger a few years ago. Sold it when it went up and pocketed the proceeds.
Now, having said that, I wish to point out that you buy stock in a company for only ONE REASON: to make money. You don't buy stock to "encourage a company," to be a cheerleader, to "join the club," or to show support for whatever the company makes.
The corporation isn't alive; it can't appreciate that you own it nor feel good about you, and if the stock goes down in price or the dividend is cut, it won't send you a sympathy card. The Board of Directors are alive, of course, but their purpose is to manage the company to make money for the shareholders--if they fail to do that, they won't get re-elected.
To use an analogy that has been used on TV as an advertisement, if the corporation can make money making picante sauce, it will make picante sauce. If the directors think they can make more money making oven mitts, instead, they'll junk the picante sauce machinery and make oven mitts, just like that. That's not warm and fuzzy, but it's reality. You want warm and fuzzy, buy a sweater.
Since my owning of Ruger, I'm a wiser stock buyer/seller. There are MANY investments that will make me more money than firearms makers.
In a similar vein, I know that many Harley riders will buy stock in that company, and some people buy Disney stock for their kids. Guess what, people: Neither Harley nor Disney gives a flying darn!
Buy and sell stocks to make money. Whatever stocks make you the most money. Then support firearms ownership and the RKBA by joining and contributing some of your profits to the NRA. (There are other organizations, too, but the NRA is the one the anti's hate. The NRA must be doing something right.)
I agree with smokey, BUT... Also consider investing things that you know about and enjoy researching or following. I have no interest in what P&G sells, and therefore I have no idea how they're doing or will do in the future. The real trick is to invest in what you like or are interested in while keeping emotion out of it. It it's not a good time to own that stock, dump it, regardless of whether it s gun company. (Maintaining objectivity can be challenging when it's about something you have a emotional interest in.)
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They're not gonna just GIVE you the money...
Rino 451--
I just checked on RGR (Ruger), HOG (Harley), DIS (Disney), and PG (Proctor & Gamble)--took me about 5 minutes total, on Yahoo Finance. With the I'net, you can now do at home what you used to have to pay a broker to do.
If you'd bought RGR early this year at about $6/share, you could sell it now for around $12--SWEET! But buying it now, well, you missed the move. RGR pays about 3% dividend, which isn't bad considering that a savings account pays mebbe 0.5%, but for a stock to hold, there are better ones.
HOG in the last 5 years, has gone from the high 50's in price to the mid 20's. Of course, with the economy recovering, it may rebound. But for a dividend it only pays 1.66%, or $0.40/share/year.
DIS in the last 5 years has gone from about $25 up to $28/share. Whoopie. It currently pays 1.22%, or $0.35/share/year.
I currently wouldn't buy HOG or DIS on a bet, no matter how much I may love motorcycle riding, or Mickey Mouse. I currently wouldn't buy RGR either, even though I have, and like, a Ruger rifle.
PG you may not be interested in, but good times or bad, people aren't going to stop buying soap & detergent. In 5 years it has gone from about $51 to about $57/share, and currently pays $1.76/share/year, or 3.06%. Like RGR, an OK stock to hold, but, like RGR, there are better ones. T (AT&T) comes to mind--It is currently priced at about $25/share, and pays about 6% dividend.
Now, all of this took me longer to type in here, than to look up. It just ain't that hard, but, if you want to be in stocks, you do the homework, OR ELSE!
A good basic text on investing would be Jim Cramer's Real Money: Sane Investing in an Insane World. You really can do all the homework yourself!
Then you'll be in an XLNT position to share your profits with organizations in which you believe, like the NRA.
Rino 451--
That's how I started; that's one of the reasons I bought Ruger originally. You learn REAL QUICK to do your homework on a stock, or lose money hand-over-fist, or get out of stocks.
I just checked on RGR (Ruger), HOG (Harley), DIS (Disney), and PG (Proctor & Gamble)--took me about 5 minutes total, on Yahoo Finance. With the I'net, you can now do at home what you used to have to pay a broker to do.
If you'd bought RGR early this year at about $6/share, you could sell it now for around $12--SWEET! But buying it now, well, you missed the move. RGR pays about 3% dividend, which isn't bad considering that a savings account pays mebbe 0.5%, but for a stock to hold, there are better ones.
HOG in the last 5 years, has gone from the high 50's in price to the mid 20's. Of course, with the economy recovering, it may rebound. But for a dividend it only pays 1.66%, or $0.40/share/year.
DIS in the last 5 years has gone from about $25 up to $28/share. Whoopie. It currently pays 1.22%, or $0.35/share/year.
I currently wouldn't buy HOG or DIS on a bet, no matter how much I may love motorcycle riding, or Mickey Mouse. I currently wouldn't buy RGR either, even though I have, and like, a Ruger rifle.
PG you may not be interested in, but good times or bad, people aren't going to stop buying soap & detergent. In 5 years it has gone from about $51 to about $57/share, and currently pays $1.76/share/year, or 3.06%. Like RGR, an OK stock to hold, but, like RGR, there are better ones. T (AT&T) comes to mind--It is currently priced at about $25/share, and pays about 6% dividend.
Now, all of this took me longer to type in here, than to look up. It just ain't that hard, but, if you want to be in stocks, you do the homework, OR ELSE!
A good basic text on investing would be Jim Cramer's Real Money: Sane Investing in an Insane World. You really can do all the homework yourself!
Then you'll be in an XLNT position to share your profits with organizations in which you believe, like the NRA.
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cleardiddion
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When you buy stock, the money doesn't go to the company. It goes to the guy who sold the stock, plus commissions to the brokers.
The stock market runs on supply and demand. If people want more stock than is for sale, the price goes up. If fewer people want the stock, the price goes down. The actual worth of the company doesn't matter.
It works like this:
Once upon a time, in a place overrun with monkeys, a man appeared and announced to the villagers that he would buy monkeys for $10 each.
The villagers, seeing that there were many monkeys around, went out to the forest, and started catching them.
The man bought thousands at $10 and as supply started to diminish, they became harder to catch, so the villagers stopped their effort.
The man then announced that he would now pay $20 for each one.
This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they started catching monkeys again.
But soon the supply diminished even further and they were ever harder to catch, so people started going back to their farms and forgot about monkey catching.
The man increased his price to $25 each and the supply of monkeys became so sparse that it was an effort to even see a monkey, much less catch one.
The man now announced that he would buy monkeys for $50!
However, since he had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now buy on his behalf.
While the man was away the assistant told the villagers, "Look at all these monkeys in the big cage that the man has bought. I will sell them to you at $35 each and when the man returns from the city, you can sell them to him for $50 each."
The villagers rounded up all their savings and bought all the monkeys.
They never saw the man nor his assistant again, and once again there were monkeys everywhere.
Now you have a better understanding of how the stock market works.
mljdeckard
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I should seriously consider ATK, I have family who work for them.
edSky
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ATK did recently test fire a new solid-fuel rocket engine. While the future plans may be scrubbed by Congress, they are still a large diversified corporation and probably not going to go away any time soon.
Buying gun-related stock isn't silly if you think it will go up. same as any other investment. Sometimes ya wins, sometimes ya loses.
Buying gun-related stock isn't silly if you think it will go up. same as any other investment. Sometimes ya wins, sometimes ya loses.
There are a lot of them that are in the business of defense like Taser and Metalstorm and a ton of others that make all kinds of stuff. When I was trading we used to play that group when it was hot, TASR was a real runner. Every time they got a contract, or lost one it would take off. But they were mostly for "day trades". Most stocks now are no longer "buy and hold" you really have to put your time in or you can easily get hurt. Just like the banking stocks and healthcare, that were supposed to be a safe place to park money. I don't suggest the market anymore for the small investor. Unfortunately it is getting harder and harder to find investments that are safe. The banks realize this and reward us wit 1 1/2% interest on a CD. I really think that if you have money that you can let sit for 5-10 years, that real estate is the best idea.
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I just emptied my savings account and bought $10,000 worth of Smith and Wesson, 'cause those M&P's sure look SW33T!
gyvel
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I have ten shares of Eastern Air Lines stock for sale if anyone's interested.
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