First Garand: where? how much?

[ocabj]

FWIW, The M1903/03A3 isn't a Service Rifle under NRA Highpower or CMP rules. Only M1/M14/AR rifles.

Plus, you don't want to get someone started in service rifle matches with a bolt gun, anyway. When it comes to prone rapid fire, a bolt gun can be very demanding to a new shooter (with respects to competition). Shooters tend to move too much of their body when operating the bolt and lift their head out of position. Then they have to get back into positing, establish sight picture fire, and repeat. 10 rounds in 80 seconds seems like a lot of time, but for a new shooter, 10 rounds in 70 seconds with a semi auto will be a lot easier.

 

[jefnvk]

Swampy, rules are the same for ammo or rifle purchase: http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/eligibility_requirements.htm

Here is what can be used in place of competitions:

Marksmanship or other Firearms Related Activity
You must provide proof of participation in a marksmanship related activity or otherwise show familiarity with the safe handling of firearms and range procedures. Your marksmanship related activity does not have to be with highpower rifles; it can be with smallbore rifles, pistols, air guns or shotguns. Proof of marksmanship participation can be provided by documenting any of the following:

-Current or past military service.
-Current or past law enforcement service
-Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin).
-Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor).
-Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status.
-Concealed Carry License.
-Firearms Owner Identification Card.
-FFL or C&R license.
-Completion of a Hunter Safety Course that included live fire training.
-Certification from range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity. A form for use in completing and certifying your range firing can be downloaded from the CMP web site at http://www.odcmp.com/forms/marksmanship.pdf
-No proof of marksmanship required if over age 60. proof of club membership and citizenship required for all ages.

 

[Swampy]

jefnvk wrote:

Swampy, rules are the same for ammo or rifle purchase: http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifle...equirements.htm

Sorry guy, not so. You neglected to copy and paste the LAST line in CMP's requirements for "Marksmanship or Other Firearms Related Activity"

That line reads as follows:

"NOTE: Proof of marksmanship activity is not required for purchase of ammunition, parts, publications or memorabilia"

Best to all,
Swampy

Garands forever

 

[jefnvk]

Oops, my bad. I have been skipping over that line for a year now, it appears.

 

[user203]

Started My Daughter out w/ a Bushmaster xm-15, went through all the .30 calibers, and Now I can't get my Bushmaster back from her!

I do agree CMP Is THE place to purchase the mighty M-1

 

[.40-.45]

H & R or Springfield?

 

[ocabj]

HRA or SA, it doesn't really matter as far as shooting is concerned. If anything, a HRA is going to be post-WWII production and is going to have the 'latest' improvements/revisions. Granted, SA also produced rifles post-WWII as well, but if you want a guaranteed post-WWII rifle, get a HRA.

If you want a shot at a WWII years rifle, then get the SA and try putting a note for a specific serial range and hope the CMP can accommodate you.

I'd get an HRA first since they are rarer than SA rifles. But sooner or later, whichever one you get now, I guarantee you'll get the other, and then another, and another...

 

[jefnvk]

What, no faith he found a Winchester or International Harvester?

IMHO, it is best when starting out to pick what the majority of the other people are using. This goes for any competition/sport/hobby. Lots more people to help you out if something goes wrong. In this case, it sounds like an M1.

 

[CrazyIrishman]

Hey guys,

How would one go about buying a M1 Garand through the CMP if you're disabled?

I have arthritis in both hips and lower back,and use a wheelchair . I am able to shoot off of a bench but thats about it. Kneeling,Prone,Offhand,etc, is out of the question unfortunately. Once upon a time I could shoot different positions.

I also have a C & R license. Ideally, I would like to get a mechanically decent rifle w/ either a rough stock or one like firewood . I don't mind replacing or refinishing a stock.


Thanks ..........CI

 

[RGO]

A C&R license counts as proof of firearms knowledge. The CMP has broadened their requirement from a qualified shooting activity to a number of things that reflect a general knowledge of firearms.

http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/eligibility_requirements.htm

 

[.40-.45]

thanks ocabj

I want a garand I just dont know that much about them

is there a web site that show number ranges to get productions dates?

 

[jefnvk]

Here is the site I use for production dates. For WWII, dates down to the month are available, but for the Korean war, only Years are available:

WWII data, by month of manufacture (Springfield and Winchester): http://www.jouster.com/serial/serial.html

WWII and post-WWII data, by year (SA, WRA, IHC and HR), see the pic. I wish I remember where I got that, but I honeestly don't.

Actually, see my response in this thread, it won't let me upload that pic again: http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=133438

Crazy, you can use the C&R as marksmanship requirement. You will still need to belong to an affiliated club, and be able to provide proof of citizenship. Your chances of getting a rough stock are about equal to getting one with a good stock. It may need to be refinished to match, but I haven't seen any that are unusable. Go for the service grade if you want an out of the box, no problems rifle. If you can make it to the North store, you can pick through the field and rack grades to find a decent one, but if you are mail ordering, Service is the way to go.