First handgun: Sig P220?
Hello all. I'm looking at buying my first handgun. I take my CCW class in a couple weeks. I hope to shoot a few different calibers and manufacturers before I purchase -- provided I can find a range where I can rent a few options.
I'm right in the "average height and weight" range for an adult male: 5'10'' 150lbs (ish) depends on the season. My hands aren't really small or large, just average. I've picked my top contenders up, held, dry fired, etc..
I'm looking for handgun primarily for home defense, but also for CCW.
I've been talking to friends, reading reviews, and going to gun stores.
So far I've been looking at the Sig P220, Sig P226 (9mm) or the Sig 1911. I've also been looking at the Glock 17 or 21 but I'm not partial to polymer guns. I've also looked at the H&Ks and Taurus.
The SIG P220 was my first handgun. It was just fine. I took my first concealed carry shooting test with it and shoot a 48 round hole with two fliers. It's a really good platform for combat shooting.
I've read some about the DA/SA on the Sig P220 and 226s, saying this can be a problem for some folks, not as "safe." My question is, is this really a big deal? It' seems like the whole point is that this system makes the gun more safe.
Any thoughts on this particular handgun and this commentary I've read on them is much appreciated.
Stop overthinking gun safety. It's really quite simple. Many folks never really get over thinking their carry gun "will go off by itself"--you can see it play out here daily. A bit of logic and understanding of your pistol's design goes a long way to alleviating the "it'll go off!" mentality. Regarding SIG, Glock, HK, and most other modern guns: they usually have at least one internal safety. Anything advertised as having a firing pin safety means that there is a physical block preventing the pin from moving forward until the trigger is pulled.
If you follow the gun safety rules, you won't put your finger on the trigger until ready to fire. If you're holding a criminal at gun point, then your finger should be on the frame up until the point you decide to shoot. The "Glock problem" with NDs is really a shooter problem, but people want something to blame and guns don't talk back. A SIG 220 is not going to discharge unless you pull the trigger.
The heavier double action trigger pull can be a problem for some shooters. The solution is to dry fire frequently. Frequent practice with any gun is important, but don't get stuck on platform. Know how to shoot any gun competently...you may have to pick it up and use it.
The 45 ACP cartridge is just fine for a first handgun. The secret is in the cartridge's "push" with less snap. It's extremely accurate and VERY easy to reload. In fact, I find it to be very forgiving and there are many recipes available. The wide case mouth makes it easy to place bullets in the case...try that with 380 Auto bullets with any sort of speed.
There are many 1911 afficionados on this forum. Don't let them convince you that a 1911 is the right choice for you. Granted, they ***can*** be very good handguns. However, they really do require some skill to keep running. The elephant in the room is that it really is a crappy design, but don't tell the afficionados that. The cartridge doesn't have a straight shot into the chamber and the "bouncing" into the chamber causes all sorts of problems in guns that are not in spec according to the original design (and most guns deviate from the design. There's a whole industry around the 1911 platform for a reason). But...shhhhh...keep it quiet since they'll get all offended.
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Back to the SIG and carry. Consider the overall height of the gun. Tall guns, including the SIG P220, are more difficult to conceal because the grip will tend to stick out. A shorter grip will give you more "slop" in your movements and affects your wardrobe choices. This is why you'll notice a large number of small guns in the store: they're easy to conceal. One of the great balances in shootability, concealability, and capacity is the Glock 19/23/32. Take measurements on this gun from the top of the slide to the bottom of the grip (and bottom of the magazine-- 1/4" difference). Now compare to the SIG P220:
The new eight round magazines add another 1/4" to the SIG P220's height (without sights). This is something to consider since the flat based seven round magazines are no longer available.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=416180
http://www.tacticalunderground.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6529