First impressions of my new Ruger KP345

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chaim

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OK, I finally picked up and shot my new Ruger KP345 today. Mine is stainless (hence the K in KP345) and without the rail. I have nothing wrong with the rail, I just don't need it and they had one in stock without.

I couldn't wait to get it home and clean it thoroughly before shooting. So, I broke it down at the range and started cleaning out the shipping grease using only a rag (there was a ton of it on the internals and since I didn't have a pipe cleaner or Q-tip with me I didn't get it all) then I lubed it with Breakfree.

I got on the range, chambered the first round and the slide was hesitant but chambered. Fired, next round didn't fully go into battery and I had to assist it with a tap on the slide. Next round, same thing. Next round, the round wouldn't chamber and the slide locked half open. I had to really work to get the slide opened fully. At this time I'm worried I got one of the rare bad Rugers (and here I thought the early problems Ruger had with the KP345 were worked out).

So, when I finally got it opened I took it apart again, wiped it down again, and made sure that I had plenty of lube by applying more Breakfree.

Another possible problem, the mags load differently than others I've had. Once they stop with easy pressure, you need to push just a tad more. There is a bit of an indentation that holds the round lighly by the rim and many of the rounds in the first mag weren't pushed in all the way.

Anyway, after I loaded a second mag, and stipped it and re-lubed it, I didn't have another problem. It was only the first couple rounds. So, 250 perfect rounds later (200 Remington/UMC 230gr MC rounds, 50 Winchester 230gr JHPs) it seems to be working fine. Still, just in case the problem isn't as simple as the above, I'll wait for another 250 rounds or so before it will take its turn as my bedside gun- the jury is still out.

Shooting and handling impressions:

I love this gun. We'll have to see what I think after the new gun excitment wears off, but it may be in contention for "favorite gun" status.

Accuracy was good. Usually I primarily practice at short self-defense ranges. Additionally, I haven't shot much in the past couple years (its been about a month and a half since my last range trip). Still, I had pretty decent (for me) accuracy when I decided to try it at 50-75 feet- 4-6" 16 shot (2 mag) groups. Rapid fire is comfortable even though it is a 29oz .45ACP. It is very controllable. It was a ton of fun. I can't wait to take it to the range with my 1911 and my CZ75 to compare.

The mag release is a normal button right where it should be. It isn't like the puny little buttons my old P89 had. The P89 was ambidextrous though and this only has a right handed mag release (no big deal, a lefty could always use his/her trigger finger). Of course, the safety is ambi, though I'm not sure how big a hand you'd need if you wanted to actually use it (I would use this gun in DA mode with the safety disengaged, only using the safety as a decocker).

Take down is pretty easy and more or less what I remembered of Ruger centerfire autos. The only difference is I remember my P89's slide stop didn't fully come out and this one does. No big deal since most guns take down like that, but it is another small part to get lost so I was hoping for it to take down like other Rugers in this respect. It does have the funky Ruger thing where you have to stick your finger into the open ejection port to flip down the ejector to take down the rest of the gun (why do they do that :confused: ).

Fit and finish is fine. Better than I remembered from my P89. The combo of matte and polished sections on the slide looks great, but I may have the more polished section bead blasted if this gun ever gets carried. I love the huge gaping ejection port- it takes up the top of the slide as well as the side for the 1" or so length of the ejection port (window is a better word).

The sights are smallish but very usable. I like that the rear sight goes all the way back like they do on other guns, for some reason Ruger usually seems to mount them almost a centimeter further forward than other brands do and they don't on this gun. The dots are very small- I may either fill them in with black paint and ignore them, or go the other way and use florescent green (or night sights) to make them stand out more.

The gun fits me and is sized very well. Despite being a .45 it is pretty trim due to the single stack design and polymer construction. While a full-sized service pistol, it is just barely full-sized (it is sized about the same as a Commander sized 1911), and at 29oz it would be a great CCW arm when wearing a cover garment (probably too big for tucked IWB though). If it proves itself the next few range trips it just may become the gun that travels with me and is carried when I go to PA, at least when it is cold enough for a jacket or when I wear a suit (the rest of the time being covered by my Taurus PT140 M. Pro, Taurus 85CH and possibly S&W 442).


It may be time to start pricing holsters for this one as it will probably be sticking around.
 
I am waiting on mine to get to my FFL. Its coming snail mail and I can hardly wait. Mine is the blued with the rail and although I will never have anything on the rail I just liked the look of it.

I will try to take some pics when I get it in and shoot it.
 
So far its easier to shoot than my CZ97B!

And that is saying a lot. The felt recoil is more straight back than a flip. I mixed some Golden Sabers 185 gr with some generic 230 gr FMJ and it never had a problem. In fact I was so taken with the action that I went into a rapid fire mode, which I rarely do< because it was such a blast.

For those looking for an economical yet VERY high quality .45ACP....I would suggest looking into these.

Didnt have a chance to take any pics, sorry. But the groups were pretty darn tight!
 
I shot another 100 rounds, 50 of them UMC/Remington 230gr MC and 50 WWB 230gr JHP. No troubles. My best friend, a Kimber owner, liked it too (not enough to trade in his Kimber for one though;) ).

I shot it back to back with my friend's Kimber. Frankly, the Ruger feels more utilitarian, but other than that I don't see the Kimber having anything over the Ruger. Reliable, check. Accurate, check. Good trigger, check. Well made, check. Decent workmanship, check.

I'm not sure if it is my number one favorite handgun, but it is up there in the top 2 or 3.
 
If Ruger ever makes that gun in metal, I'd consider it. Something like a P90 with improved grip ergonomics, better trigger, and better design.

I had a P97 at one time and did NOT like it.
 
I bought this last December. My first pistol. Granted I have no experience with other .45s, but so far this has been pretty good for me. Less than expected recoil. Good trigger (seems like anyways) and after about 150 rounds I am getting used to the sights. This was 8 yards 9 shots. Trying to get it out to 25 yards, but gotta start somewhere.

I recommend the p345.

have a great day
cavman
 

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Surefire said:
If Ruger ever makes that gun in metal, I'd consider it. Something like a P90 with improved grip ergonomics, better trigger, and better design.

I had a P97 at one time and did NOT like it.

I don't think you can really compare the P345 with the P97. The P97 is clunky, the P345 is svelt. The P97 has a typical Ruger trigger, the P345 has one of the best DA/SA triggers I've ever fired. The P345 simply has more character and class than the P97. Both are accurate and reliable so I guess you could compare them a little.


denfoote said:
I'm still trying to convince myself to get one of those little buggers!!
I purchased a KP97DC right before Ruger came out with the new dog on the block and I'm happy with it!!

See above. This gun has really sold me on Ruger autos. With the minor redesign of the P95 I'm actually thinking of one of those to go along with my P345. With the new pebbled grip and matte "finish" on the polymer frame it looks worlds better than the older P95 design.
 
Mine did the same thing.

I got my KP345PR yesterday and took it to the range. I didn't give it a really good cleaning before firing it. Just a run through with the bore snake and a good wipe down. I dissassembled it after the range time. It did the same thing yours did; it didn't quite get the round all the way into the chamber. It only did that twice out of about 100 rounds, though. If it keeps it up, my gunsmith will make short work of the problem. And I was using really cheap gun show ammo which probably had something to do with it, Independence 230gr. FMJ. What did you think of the trigger, that really long pull kinda bothered me, I was expecting something more like a 1911, but what do I know? A 1911 is such a different setup anyway being SA, and all.
 
I have a KP89. I love it. But, I have discovered it is important to keep the slide well lubed in the groves. Turn the gun over, lock the slide, lube in the ruts, release, turn back up, rack the slide several times.

After about 200 rounds at the range, there is enough soot buildup and oil burn and maybe heat expansion, that I may get a stovepipe because the slide experiences more friction than normal. Lube well and it works like a charm.
 
Duramaximum, here are my thoughts on the slide issue after shooting this gun more. I've noticed shooting it more recently that as I've been shooting longer the slide starts to become noticably sluggish, no FTEs or stovepipes but if I kept going it probably would have. So, I simply relubed the gun at the range and right away I saw improvement with it performing as expected. With your report as well, I agree with CAnnoneer- these guns must be kept well lubed. I'm thinking I'll probably lube the rails with grease instead of oil.

As for the trigger, I kind of like it. It isn't my 1911, but the SA trigger is smooth and relatively decent (it is good for a DA/SA trigger). The DA trigger is quite long and heavy though, hopefully it will smooth out a bit with dry firing and range time.
 
For very little money, you can improve the performance and reliability of your new pistol. Just install a new recoil spring from Wolff. In my experience,the Ruger factory spring is just a tad light. That is why your slide seems a bit sluggish. A new spring will make it a lot snappier.
 
No recoil springs offered for the P345, yet, but the 19# p-series hammer spring is a good improvement:)
 
With the minor redesign of the P95 I'm actually thinking of one of those . . . . With the new pebbled grip and matte "finish" on the polymer frame it looks worlds better than the older P95 design.
I've had similar thoughts of late, Chaim. The new design KP95 with the 15-round mags looks like a tidy package for c. $350 NIB.

I was impressed with this review from last year. Author put a P95 through a 3000 round torture test, which it passed with flying colors:

http://www.gunweek.com/2005/feature0820.html

Also (and not intending to spark contention), I don't want all the new safety gizmos on the P345 series, so I'd like to grab a Ruger auto in a format I like without the lock, loaded chamber indicator, etc.

Not sure whether the decocker or the "manual safety" version would be best. Can the manual safety Ruger P-series pistols be carried cocked and locked? Do they work well for this?
 
Can the manual safety Ruger P-series pistols be carried cocked and locked? Do they work well for this?
Not sure on the new models, I have a 4-year old KP-90 "Manual Safety" model. When switched to safe, the hammer decocks.
 
Thanks. That makes sense, since Ruger sometimes refers to the decocker versions of their guns as "Decock Only" -- implying that the manual safety also decocks.

I'd probably go with the decocker, then.
 
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