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Well my bullets haven't arrived yet, so I got organized and did prep on 80 .30-30 cases......generating some questions...
I'm full length sizing with Lee Pace Setter dies on my brandy new classic turret press (cast base model). I adjusted the sizing die per instructions...w/ ram full up, screwed in until it touched shell holder, then lowered ram and screwed in an additional 1/4 turn, lifted ram again and tightened lock screw.
Question #1....
I had some trouble figuring out how far down to push the press handle....
I'd hear "ping" when the primer poped, then feel resistance, then the resistance gave way and the case would slide up with minimal effort, then it would stop......not a hard stop, just a marked increase in resistance.
At this point the handle was not all the way down to it's mechanical stop and there was still ~3/16" of case showing between the top of the shell holder and the bottom lip of the die. But if I kept pushing, the decapping pin would slide up in the collet and stand proud.
Did I "full length size?" or Did I stop short?
Inspecting the cases, I could see a transition point (change in taper angle) between the botton 3/16" that did not go into the die and the part that did.
Question #2.....
My first case pulled out the decapping pin as the cone portion stuck in the neck. I carefully popped it out in a vice and noticed that there was a little smidge of oil (most likely residual from the machining process) in the collet. So I wiped it out as best as I could and reassembled with the top of the pin flush to the top of collet, per the instructions.
This helped a lot, but as I continued to size my 80 cases, I had this pin slip up and stand proud of the collet ~1/16". This happened some four times. I tightened up the collet so much that I was very close to damaging the threads and slightly rounded the hex head. (filed it flat with no trouble).
Why is this thing slipping? Am I pushing down on the ram to hard?
I've heard a co-worker tell of an "old machinist trick" where they intentionally put a touch of "grit" on an end mill shaft before sliding into the collet when doing heavy cutting. Should I give this a try? Or maybe rough up the end of the pin with emory paper?
The last time it slipped, I pulled the pin out and inspected it. I had quite a build up of Lee lube on the cone section. So apparently I was applying to much lube. Could this have contributed to the problem?
Thanks in advance for any help....
I'm full length sizing with Lee Pace Setter dies on my brandy new classic turret press (cast base model). I adjusted the sizing die per instructions...w/ ram full up, screwed in until it touched shell holder, then lowered ram and screwed in an additional 1/4 turn, lifted ram again and tightened lock screw.
Question #1....
I had some trouble figuring out how far down to push the press handle....
I'd hear "ping" when the primer poped, then feel resistance, then the resistance gave way and the case would slide up with minimal effort, then it would stop......not a hard stop, just a marked increase in resistance.
At this point the handle was not all the way down to it's mechanical stop and there was still ~3/16" of case showing between the top of the shell holder and the bottom lip of the die. But if I kept pushing, the decapping pin would slide up in the collet and stand proud.
Did I "full length size?" or Did I stop short?
Inspecting the cases, I could see a transition point (change in taper angle) between the botton 3/16" that did not go into the die and the part that did.
Question #2.....
My first case pulled out the decapping pin as the cone portion stuck in the neck. I carefully popped it out in a vice and noticed that there was a little smidge of oil (most likely residual from the machining process) in the collet. So I wiped it out as best as I could and reassembled with the top of the pin flush to the top of collet, per the instructions.
This helped a lot, but as I continued to size my 80 cases, I had this pin slip up and stand proud of the collet ~1/16". This happened some four times. I tightened up the collet so much that I was very close to damaging the threads and slightly rounded the hex head. (filed it flat with no trouble).
Why is this thing slipping? Am I pushing down on the ram to hard?
I've heard a co-worker tell of an "old machinist trick" where they intentionally put a touch of "grit" on an end mill shaft before sliding into the collet when doing heavy cutting. Should I give this a try? Or maybe rough up the end of the pin with emory paper?
The last time it slipped, I pulled the pin out and inspected it. I had quite a build up of Lee lube on the cone section. So apparently I was applying to much lube. Could this have contributed to the problem?
Thanks in advance for any help....