First time deer hunting.. didn't see a thing

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OK, I was chomping at the bit to get out for a day of hunting, so I loaded up the rig and headed up to Stevens Pass here in Western Washington. The high buck season was on and I figured what the heck. I decided to follow the Pacific Crest Trail north till I found promising regions to the west to move into.

Well, it was a nice hike. I didn't see a darned thing. I had no idea where any deer might be. I didn't see one sign, no droppings, no positively identified hoofprints, no scratchmarks, no beds, squat. I made a couple short incursions into the bush which amounted to nothing, and I got past lake Valhalla after about 3 and a half hours. I went about a half hour past Valhalla and decided to turn around. My knees and feet were starting to ache, and it was obvious that I'd never be able to get a deer out of there by myself even if I could find one to shoot. So just before turning around to head back, I figured I could at least take one shot to sight in my rifle. I picked a nice big stump on an upward slope for backdrop at about 50 yds (open sights), lined it up on a mark on the stump, and squeezed off a round.

The shot hit the mark, I considered the shot for a minute then turned to head back up the trail. Then I hear "hey!... hey!" from down the trail opposite the way home. A woman was hiking up the trail towards me about 100 yards down, well around the corner and out of site. She was about 50 or so years old. I said "Hello, how are you doing," and she just looked at me and said "you supposed to have that here?" Well, it was hunting season and last time I checked this was America. Anyway it was a strange question. We talked for a minute, but it was clear she wasn't into my company, so I just headed for home ahead of her.

I met a few other travellers on my way back, most fairly friendly and not seeming to care about my Winchester 30-30. It also became apparent that I am not in good shape for that sort of hike. The last hour was pretty tough, and the last 20 minutes was torture. My left knee was crippled and my feet were blistered and sore. I haven't been in that much pain for a while. My body was ruined for a day or two after and is still kinda sore.

Note to self: don't go into high buck season again without scouting first, without being in better shape, and preferably without a companion who knows what he's doing. It seems it would be ideal to hunt an area like that on a 3 or 4 day trip with pack animals.

Has anyone successfully done the high buck hunt in Washington State? Where do you go? Is there any place during this hunt that you can have success on a single day hunt? Please spill the beans if you know anything.

:confused: ;) :)
 
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I wish I could help you with that,,, But one thing I can comment is that next time look at stuff that deer like to feed on. I the whole area full of deer food than you'll for sure find droppings. Its just the way it is. Good luck next time, and if you're planning of doing extensive amount of walk consider taking icy-hot pads... IT really helps.....
 
Just an observation ......
With so many people using that trail, it doesn't surprise me that you didn't see anything.
 
well, was good you could get out...
sounds to me like the area had too many people to really expect to see deer around. not sure what you mean by sight-in your gun, but if it is what i think it means, well, that should've been done months ago.
last, i find that my first true day of hunting for the year is generally pretty bad. i move too fast, don't move quiet enough, etc. it takes a couple days to get back into the groove.

sorry can't help on area-specific questions. better luck next time!
 
Yeah, I really meant just to check the sights and to fire off a round for fun, since not much else was going on. My rifle was sighted in back in June, and then again a couple weeks ago. :)
 
Haven't shot it since June? Was footsore and exhausted before you got back out? Saw nothing? Ran into people who thought you and or the gun didn't belong there for some reason? (Were you on private property or some closed area? Likely she was the one in the wrong, but are you sure?)

I see a common thread here and yep - I agree you should go with a buddy next time who is an experienced hunter in the area you're going to go to. Best thing that probably happened on this trip was you didn't shoot a deer... Imagine what kind of shape you'd have been in after tryining to get it out if you could barely make the walk without the extra burden. Ouch.

Preparedness makes a hunt fun and not such a chore when you are successful. (Not to mention proper preparation give a greater chance of success)

Remember the lesson's learned this trip and get ready for the next one! The big ones ARE out there... Good luck.
 
well, even though it didn't pan out for you this time, there is next time, and it beats the tar out of sitting on the couch, or working, or going to the dentist...

better luck next time.
 
Scouting ahead of time is good. Scouting where there are deer is even better.

I drove out to a WMA today to check out the dove field for the next season which opens at noon this Saturday. There's a road to the dove field with a locked gate. I walked from the gate to find the field. Suddenly, I was going hmmm, this looks like my favorite deer hunting ground of yore. The one my cousin sold. Former agricultural land surrounded by woods. Volunteer pines and broomsage growing in the old field. So I started checking out the old field road surrounding the large old field. Sure enough, deer tracks. Fresh. Large. Several sets. Droppings. Looked around and spotted a good sized pine tree at the edge of the field. Yep, I'll put my climber there come opening morning. Park about a quarter mile away at the campground. The deer won't be spooked by vehicle sounds. They live next to a paved road and a half a mile from a rifle range. They hear vehicles and gun fire every day of the year.

What's the furthest you've ever dragged a deer? I've dragged one a half mile through a swamp and then up a hill...with help. I'm not looking to do it again.
 
Better luck next time
Still being out in the woods is most always a good trip
just shorten up that walk the next couple of times, go more often in no time at all you can make it longer
 
The walk was great, I really enjoyed it. I'll be going out again for the regular buck season to some less formidable ground. It was a good experience and I figured at the start that it might be a while for me to learn the ins and outs of deer hunting. It was my first time in the forest with a rifle and a deer tag, which was ok by me.

It was definitely public property, as it was the Pacific Crest Trail in the Henry M. Jackson Wilderness Area.

:)
 
Sometimes public land is great hunting - if you know where. Invariably it is not easy to get to, not great for hiking, full of brambles, tag alders, and rough going. Many deer hunters won't look for that, or will not be willing to work into such thick stuff. Every time I do, people push the deer from the more open spaces and they end up in the thick stuff. I can't see more than 30 feet but I can hardly miss with my 12 ga. slug when one comes along. And, since I am sitting in there quietly, I can usually hear them coming rather than the other way around. Of course, dragging them out is usually heavy exercise so get in shape well ahead of deer season.
Scouting ahead - frequently during the year - is critical. Knowing the bedding grounds, the food and water sources, and the good hiding thickets, will make your actual hunt a short successful one. The fun is in getting ready and spending all that time in the woods ahead of time.
 
actually, I did hear something moving in the forest twice in the early morning part of my hike. It was to the east of the trail and I wasn't sure if that was open to hunting. It was also down a fairly steep hill. I waited around for about 10 minutes to try and see what it was, something large in there walking around and breaking twigs as it went. Could have been anything. Wasn't moving very fast or very often. These were two seperate animals about 300 yards or more apart. I thought there'd be better territory further up the trail anyway and wasn't ready to get down to business yet.

Now I kinda wish I'd gone in to see what was going on. :rolleyes:
 
My experience is only with white tails, so here goes.
If you are walking thru the woods deer hunting the only part of a deer you will see is the upraised tail as it runs away. Deer move between different areas, from bedding areas to water to open meadow areas to feed and such, up hill in the morning and back down at night, they have regular routes that follow the natural lay of the land. Find these areas, and if there is deer around you will find where they are moving to and from. Find a cozy place that keeps you covered and still gives you a good view of the trail, and sit,sit,sit. Be quiet, move slowley, keep your eyes open. When you get tired, move around a bit, be quiet tho. Don't pressure yourself to get a deer, just enjoy being out in the woods.
Before you go out again make sure that its legal to be hunting where you were. And if yo go alone make sure somebody knows where you are going too.
 
one of the best ways for new hunters to start seeing deer is to find deer trails. get on a good trail, worn down to the dirt, and walk it slowly and quietly. most every deer you will see will be a doe, but the first step is to start seeing the deer. once you start seeing deer, it is sort of like an epiphany. your next epiphany is when you can start seeing bucks on purpose.

deer hunting is an ongoing education and challenge. i like chawbaccer's advice: don't pressure yourself. your first deer will come - just give it time, and try to learn a little about them in their habitat.
 
You CAN see deer on the ground before they see, hear, or smell you. I've killed two like that. One never new I was there.

John killed two at once. They ran but they waited too long.

My stepfather hunts almost exclusively on the ground. Fills his limit about every season.

It takes movement and noise discipline. Serious movement and noise discipline. Which is why I generally hunt from a stand.
 
Get OFF the hiking trail!!!

True, and I tried this a couple times. I guess I didn't go far enough in as the going was rough, which is fine, but I still didn't see any signs. Being so new, I wasn't sure what to think, but I was in Central Washington a couple weeks ago with PolishRifleman and we saw signs everywhere. I just figured I needed to farther down the trail to find the right "areas," but didn't think enough about being to far away from my truck for a day hunt.

Ideally, I'd have kept going up the hill I tried to take that went around a low grassy / wetland area. Looking back, I'd sure like to have that part of the hike to do over. I'd have made up my mind not to go any farther on the trail but to take the hill till I was over the top and then sit and glass whatever I could see from the top down the other side. Oh well, maybe I'll try again next year and pack a tent so I can stay at least one night.

Is it reasonable to see absolutely no sign of deer? Was I just too close to the trail? I was the only person on it that morning. :confused:
 
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Better luck next time

Reminds me of last season! A friend and I hunted in sourthern Virginia all day; didn't see a thing... we came out of woods around 3:00 pm, headed back to car, and returned home... about 20 minutes later we stopped at a small-town McDonalds along the road for a burger. I went inside to order while my friend stayed in car...about two minutes later I hear a shot out back... turns out while my friend was sitting in car behind McDonalds, he looked out in field and saw a nice six point buck hiking across the field... he walked to edge of field and shot the deer! Geez! :mad:
 
injustices during deer season... they make me laugh, and there are lots. one example... last year i started out solo on my first hunt of the year. i went to a place i know well, and the spot i hunt is called 'death valley' by my hunting partners because the biggest deer i've ever shot have come from there, and the place consistently produces shooters. it is tucked away nicely, and gets extremely low pressure, especially being public land. anyway, i had hunted hard all day and saw nothing. i tried every hunting method i could, and i was flat tired. was a little before shooting hours closed, but i was just physically and mentally exhausted; i trudged back toward the truck, figuring on a good dinner, and an early bed time to make tomorrow a better day. i finally get back to the truck, and decided to watch the sunset, so i climbed up on the roof of the truck, and snuggled into my coat to relax and just be there for the last 30 - 45 minutes. as soon as i got comfy up there, not 20 yards in front of me as i was sitting on the cab of the truck, 3 (!) shooter bucks meandered in front of me. the looked at the truck, were not concerned and carried about their business. i laughed inside, and even though i had my rifle ready (mountain lions), i didn't want to end the hunt that way. i promised them i'd be back tomorrow, and watched them fade into the trees as the sun went down...
 
Your post is titled "First Time Deer Hunting"....Had you posted "First Time Deer Shooting", and I would have questioned it.

But that IS why they call it hunting.

And I second everyone who suggested going out with someone a little more experienced.

Good luck!
 
Oh well, maybe I'll try again next year and pack a tent so I can stay at least one night.

Is it reasonable to see absolutely no sign of deer? Was I just too close to the trail? I was the only person on it that morning.
Today 05:14 AM

These two questions are related.

Friend, if you only hunt once a season, it's probably going to be a very long time before you shoot a deer. The single most important factor in successfully hunting deer is being in the woods hunting deer.

A former hunting area of mine was a old farm field that had been abandoned regarding farming thirty years ago. Voluntee pines and broomsage. I've killed ten deer in one season in that thirty acre area. That's hunting two or three times a week between October 23 and January 11. There were days I saw fourteen deer and more days that I saw none. One season I hunted that area often and did not get but one shot all season. At two supersonic deer. Missed. It doesn't snow much down here. I'd been wanting to see how the deer moved when I could study tracks in the snow. One year it snowed. These southern deer didn't know what that white stuff was and didn't want to have anything to do with it. There were no deer tracks in the snow anywhere for over a week. This was in an area where some of the deer trails have areas where the dirt is churned up from the traffic.

You need to find someone who's experienced to hunt with.

You need to hunt much more than once or twice a year.

If you can't hunt but once or twice a year, try guided hunts.
 
New to bow hunting and deer hunting... you have to start somewhere and now is as good as anytime. As has been said, it is all about fun. Yes, it can be boring when you don't see any game at all. Think of hunting as expanding your overall outdoor experience and learn about everything you can.... food sources, deer movement patterns, deer sign and what they mean etc.

If I was just starting out and assuming you have permission to be where ever you are, I would look for old farms or homesteads that have been abandoned. There are always apple trees at these locations. Find the old houses (ruins), look for a spring, look for apple trees, and look for deer sign (tracks, etc.). If they are in the area, they will be going to these places and you will see sign.

Build yourself a blind on the ground within a 20-25 yards of an apple tree or other food source and stay put. (Cut some branches to put both behind you and in front of you to break up your form.) A tree stand is better usually. But, deer are starting to be conditioned to "look up" due to the number of folks in tree stands these days. A tree stand is no guarantee for sucess.

If you get bored, and I mean really bored, carefully walk around.... take one or two steps silently, stop, look around for a few minutes, and repeat the process. Keep your eyes pealed for anything that looks out of place or any movement what so ever. Walk up wind (or have the wind in your face) silently and you might be surpised what you come silently up on. Does tend to be pretty dumb at times.

Enjoy!
 
Friend, if you only hunt once a season, it's probably going to be a very long time before you shoot a deer.

this reminds me of that scene in 'gone in 60 seconds' where the carjacker tries to jack the car the car thieves stole: booooy... you need a role model!

just had to interject that bit... agree w/ byron: to see deer, you need to be out there. often.

as you were!
 
You guys kick butt. Thanks for all the advice. Unfortunately a young family and busy schedule at work let me into the forest less than I'd like. It's ok if I don't get anything this year, I'm patient. I enjoy being in the woods and learning as much as I can.

I'm going to get out one more day, in late October for the tail end of the early deer season here. I can only go out for the morning and early afternoon. My chances are slim, but better than if I stay home, and I'll learn more for next year. This time though, I plan to scout the area, and to buy some time, I'm taking my two munchkins with me (almost 5 and almost 2). Should be fun. I'm going to load the little one into her backpack and we're going to make a day of it. :) I'm also going to an area where I'll be hunting the second I'm out of the truck, and I won't be more than an hour hike away from the vehicle. That should help. I'm going to see if I can find a spot on a hill overlooking some good deer territory, so on hunting day I can be there at 5am and be ready to glass the sourrounding territory. I'm going to go on a weekday near the end of the season, so although the deer might be wary, I'll hopefully have the place to myself.

Wish me luck! :D
 
Carnaby-you should never shoot unless you are shooting at game. There is always potential of hitting someone in the bush. I've heard some call it firing a round for sound that is dangerous. If your round does not hit soft earth it could ricochet or fragment and fly for several yards in all directions. The other part is you spoiled the rest of your hunt by alerting all of the deer in your area of your presence.

Deer hunting is not just walk, it’s the stalk, and you need stop sit low listen and watch and wait. I live in Oregon near the Valley so when it rains the Deer move to the trees at night, in the morning they move down to drink. You need to learn what the patterns are in your area. It is probably the same. Look for youg saplings, they are usually the trees of choice for rubs. The Bucks will not start the Rut until the first frost.

Wear orange and be careful. If you run into other hunters let them know where you are going to be and ask them where they are going. It is best to has someone experienced to learn from. Good Luck, be safe.
 
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