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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by MedGrl, Dec 13, 2005.

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  1. MedGrl

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    I had my first experience shooting on Sunday. My friend took me to a near by gun shop with an indoor range. We went over ear and eye protection, firing range etiquette, the 4 rules and proper hand placement and stance. We then discussed the two weapons we would use.

    We used a 6" Smith and Wesson Model 27 revolver with 2 types of ammo. 38 special 158 grain SWC and 357 Magnum 147 grain JHP Handloaded (1175 fps). The second gun we used was a 6" STI Trojan Variant with 45 ACP 185 grain SWCHP Handloaded (800 fps) ammo.

    After we went over the mechanics of both weapons and I dry fired the revolver (both single and double action), and learned how to operate the slide on the semi-auto we went down to the range.

    In the range he showed me how to load the revolver and send the target out. We kept it at about 21 feet. He fired the first cylinder full of 38 special and then had me eject the spent casings and reload before trying it myself.

    The first shot startled me a bit because the revolver moved more in my hands than it had looked like it did in his. The rest of the shots went pretty smoothly and I wound up with a nice little upwards marching of holes in my target. He told me that that probably meant that I was relaxing my grip a little. I reloaded and corrected. The nest set of six shots made a nice little cluster about 4 inches if you were to draw a circle around them. We took turns firing the 38 special ammo and after about 20 minutes he asked dif I wanted to try the 357. He warned me that it was still a mild load but that it was stronger than what we had been using.

    I fired off a few cylinders of 357 and managed to keep them clustered though not as tightly and the first one missed low taking off the bottom corner of the target. We then witched over to the STI Trojan Variant.

    I liked this pistol better than the revolver. It fit my hand a little better. My friend showed me how to load a clip and insert it and how to chamber the first round. I fired off the first clip full and managed to get two bullets through the same hole with just a little overlap. I had a few casings "stove pipe" and my friend showed me how to clear it before moving on to the next shot. I used about 5 clips worth of the 45 ACP ammo and by my 5th clip I had the holes in the target clustered together nicely in about 3 inches of space and even had three spots where two went through the same place.

    We swept up the brass off the floor and put the guns away in their cases. I offered to help my friend clean the guns but he told me he would rather do it because he liked cleaning them.

    I really enjoyed the 45 minutes we spent at the range and am going to stick with shooting. I am starting to look for a weapon of my own. A mutual friend of me and the guy who took me shooting on Sunday has a .22 and is going to let me try it out some time after Christmas.

    If anyone has suggestions about what kind of gun I should look into I would appreciate the suggestions
     
  2. mindpilot

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    welcome

    Well would suggest a 9mm of any Type. Depending on your price range $150-500 Ruger and Taurus make nice models and are known for reliability. You can pick up a P92, P89 etc for around $250. My old GF shot a 9mm and liked it alot, it was a small version like a Makarov 19x8. Very good and reliable gun for $200.

    my $.02

    welcome
     
  3. mindpilot

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    welcome

    Well would suggest a 9mm of any Type. Depending on your price range $150-500 Ruger and Taurus make nice models and are known for reliability. You can pick up a P92, P89 etc for around $250. My old GF shot a 9mm and liked it alot, it was a small version like a Makarov 19x8. Very good and reliable gun for $200.

    my $.02

    welcome
     
  4. Freedomv

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    Excellent!

    I too, welcome you to THR and the shooting sports.

    Vern
     
  5. Mad Chemist

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    Quite a command of jargon and terminology, for a first time shooter.:confused:
    Wait, am I confused or is Medgrl the cofused one.:confused:
    Identity crises perhaps?:rolleyes:
     
  6. only1asterisk

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    Mad Chemist,

    I think you must be confused. Just because it took you a while to learn doesn't mean that somebody else can't pick it up a bit faster.

    In this case, the young lady made a concerted effort to learn everything she could before going to the range. How do I know? I'm the guy she shot with.

    She did fantastic for a first timer, especially considering I had no time to load ammo for more appropriate handguns.


    David
     
  7. mindpilot

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    I know....wish I had a GF like that.... :D I always seem to end up attracting the liberals arts majors that are vegetarians.
     
  8. cz75bdneos22

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    that was an excellent write up:cool: ...i wish my words would flow such as yours just did:eek: ...sounds like you had an enjoyable range day. i, myself plan to take a new shooter to the range soon;) . i'll take my .22 handgun to drill in the basics and another handgun in the caliber of his choice...i'll try to get him to choose my .44 spl snubbie...:evil: muuhahha!!!
     
  9. DunedinDragon

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    I think a lot of what will fit you will be based on your size. I just bought my son's girlfriend her first gun for Christmas which was a Taurus Millenium Pro PT-111 9mm. She went to a gun show and got a feel for a lot of different guns and felt the Taurus was best for her due to both weight and size. She's 5'3" and 105 lbs so she's not really going to feel comfortable with anything that has more recoil than a 9mm. She's also going to apply for her CCW so a small frame gun will be much easier to conceal.

    I think the calibers you fired the other day will probably give you a good sense of what caliber might be best for you. It's a shame you didn't get to fire a 9mm semi auto as that tends to be one of the more popular arrangements for women...not to mention the ammo is cheap!!!

    I'd definately suggest you go to a gun show and get some hands on different models and see what you think. There's no real hurry and you might as well be happy with whatever you decide.

    Welcome to shooting...bet this won't be your only gun!!!:)
     
  10. Mad Chemist

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    No need to get defensive. I just thought it seemed strange that a novice shooter would know the difference b/t SWC, JHP, SWCHP. Along w/ the chrono speeds, I was expecting to see ex. spread and std dev as well:evil:

    I was mistaken.
    You're obviously aquainted with a bright and talented lady with an idectic memory and access to Google.:D
     
  11. only1asterisk

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    Mad Chemist,

    No eidetic memory, she took notes. :)


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    Welcome to shooters world. It can be a lot of fun. Hope you continue to share the experience with your friends. Keep it up. Be safe.

    I would start out with a 22 pistol such as a Ruger Mark II (5.5" bull barrel) or one of the slab sided Mark III hunters. You''ll get used to the weight and appreciate it as you will likely shoot better. Cheap and good for developing skills. That would be followed by a auto in whatever caliber you prefer in the 9mm-40 S&W range since you seem to like pistols. I have had good success with Glocks. They for the most part have smaller grips. The jamming bothers me... not normal or acceptable. I can't stand a pistol that jams much ... gone. I have no place for one. Not dependable when you need it.

    Other advice. Don't give up on revolvers. You shot an N-frame Smith which is a great 357, but it a large revolver. I am a 41 mag fan (Model 57), but they are a handful until you get accustomed to the recoil. You might try something with a smaller grip such as a Ruger GP100 or a smaller framed Smith before making your final centerfire selection. A Colt Trooper Mark III would be a great selection if you can find one. Very smooth trigger, accurate, and dependable. They look good too! Shoot 38's in it until you are comfortable with it.
     
  13. MedGrl

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    I had my friend write down what we used as far as weapon and ammo. I like to be well informed. I also did alot of personal research online on top of what my friend is teaching me. :D
     
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    I had my friend write down what we used as far as weapon and ammo. I like to be well informed. I also did alot of personal research online on top of what my friend is teaching me. :D

    DunedinDragon and 22-rimfire, thanks for the suggestions. I'll keep them in mind while I'm looking...and you're right DunedinDragon...this probably won't be my only gun but...you gatta walk before you can fall and you gatta aim before you can shoot.:D
     
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    Awesome! I remember my first time shooting, and am now hooked for life. Its an amazing experience, and a perfect way waste a paycheck!

    Just 1 thing I noticed: In a handgun, the reloading device is called a "Magazine", not a clip. I know a few people here and at Thefiringline freak out when you call it a clip. Handy little way to tell the difference: A Magazine has a spring, a clip does not.

    Good luck, have fun, and as always, stay safe!

    2 words: Leather Jacket. Nothing creeps them out like a leather jacket! Plus, the smell of a good jacket is irriplacable. I'm 2 years into college in _BOSTON_ and have yet to attract a single liberal!
     
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    Great write up MedGrl. It sounded like you really enjoyed yourself and you definitely had a good teacher.

    I tend to be the picky "technically correct" weenie on this board. Please use magazine or mag instead of clip. There is nothing wrong with the word "weapon", but "firearm" is a little better for polite discussion.

    And just a reminder to 22-rimfire, it is auto-loader or semi-auto, not auto. Now I realize that the Colt 1911 45ACP Government model says "auto" on the slide, but in today's world auto means machine gun.

    As far as recommendations are concerned, I can't help much relative to female shooters. My general recommendation is that once you find your first gun, never ever sell it. poppy
     
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    everytime i hear of a new woman shooter, i get this feeling of satisfaction.
    of all the grown women in my family, all shoot except one DIL, first date with my wife was handgun shooting. she had no experience, none. she took to it like the proverbial duck. that was nearly 26 years ago now. and, she currently has more handguns than i, mostly confiscated from me. she also has her own reloading equipment and keeps herself supplied. mostly .38s and .357s. we live well out from suburbia, so, the back yard may have several hundred pounds of lead here and there, mostly in the dumptruck of dirt out there. then, we have a regular 50 yard range down the hill on a flat spot. yep, life is good. for a couple of shooters that is.

    am i proud of my woman? just ask. i like bragging on her. i have great sympathy for guys that have wives or girlfriends that run the gamut from not liking guns to being deathly afraid of them. my one DIL is the latter and there is no talking to her on the subject. she is not anti gun, so i dont know how to describe her. she is otherwise a sweet and wonderful woman.

    so much for me, i am very proud for your experience and attitude and welcome to THR and please keep us posted on your choices and the whys of it. most of us, if not all, are interested in womens opinions and choices. nothing like a gun for Xmas, birthday, whatever. solves that gift problem.

    luck and good shooting. some of your girlfriends may be appaled but, if i may make a pun - stick to your guns.
     
  18. fade1000

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    Congrats

    Congratulations on what sounds like an excellent day at the range.

    Don't forget to look at the Kahr K-9 when you are shopping for a handgun. It is a bit more pricey than some of the other 9 mm semi-autos that have been suggested, but tends to fit smaller hands very well. I have short thumbs, and can't reach the magazine release on many of the guns I've picked up, but the K-9 fits just perfectly.

    Dean
     
  19. Tequila_Sauer

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    My g/f loves to shoot and is a natural at it (I DESPISE naturals! Here I am, practicing, happy with my performance, and she steps up and nails it). When I move to the Sig 220, I'm going to pass down the CZ to her so she can use it at the range. It's a perfect gun for her. Excellent accuracy, reliability and shoots like a dream.
     
  20. MedGrl

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    Thank's for the correction. Magazine and firearm from now on...thanks!:)
     
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    Tequilla. sounds like you have a goodun. sounds like she has proven herself at least fifty percent of the way. if the other fifty percent suits you, do all you can to not let her get away.

    i sometimes refer to my wife as "that little gunlover i sleep with". she takes a playful poke at me, knowing it is true. nothing like having a partner that is interested in your primary interests.

    tell the GF good going and express no chagrin if she shoots the better. encourage her all the way to CCW and beyond, remembering she is armed, ha.
     
  22. Tequila_Sauer

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    Yes, she drinks the most expensive tequilas in my collection and scores much higher in her first experiences than I did in my first rounds with it.

    Just my luck!

    I'm really happy that she enjoys it, and that she has a knack for it. I'd like to get some pictures of her at the range next time we go. She still gets nervous though if someone is in a lane near her and is shooting something loud. It kind of freaks her out a bit at first and she has a hard time settling in. That'll go away in time though.
     
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    MedGrl, great write-up and good shooting! I think Only1asterisk spoiled you letting you shoot the Model 27 though. You are going to have to look pretty hard to find another revolver that shoots as sweet as that. You may not know it, but he treated you to a prize possession. (The STI ain't no slouch either.)

    Only1asterisk, keep up the good work! If we all brought new shooters into the fold we wouldn't have to worry so much about which way the wind was blowing in D.C.
     
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    Welcome

    to the sport/world/philosophy/etc.
    One thing to consider is used guns. All of mine were bought used and I'm very happy with them.
    But. I should mention, I'm a <1yr shooter, so there are many more experienced gun owners heree.
    Good luck.
     
  25. DevLcL

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    Them is lots o' fancy words for a noobie ....... :D

    When I first started shooting I said things like "I used a shiny thing, it go boom!" and used words like bullet and clip. :what: :uhoh: :banghead:

    I'd go with a .22lr magazine fed! First off, you can shoot it all day for about 15 bucks. Secondly, you can get the fudamentals down easier without having to worry about the kick and noise. Then go with a bigger toy later for things like home defense or CCW.

    Having a 1911 (.45), a Ruger 9mm, a and Walther .22, I'd have to say the .22 is the most fun to shoot. I worked my way backwards getting the .45 first (dumb decision) and the .22 last, learn from my mistake!

    Garunteed. Officially stamped and watermarked.

    -Dev
     
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