First Tisas 1911 of 2023

[CajunBass]

I've got four of them, but my first for 2023 (and probably my last really) is this one, a bob-tailed, steel frame, 45 to go with my 9mm Sting-Ray. I don't think it even has a name. I think it's just called a 45 carry or something like that.





I've only got 70 rounds through it (ball and HP) but it's been just like all the rest. It just shoots. As I do with all my handguns, I've added a drop of orange nail polish to the front sight, but that's the extent of any "modifications."

I'll probably never actually carry it. I've got other guns for that job, but it's tempting.

 

[jar]

Just got back from the range.

Booooooring!

Worked with Wilson, CheckMate, Ed Brown, ACT and MecGar magazines.

Worked with seven round and eight round magazines.

Worked with ball, jhp, arx and +P ammo.

Zero failure to feed, zero failure to go into battery, zero failure to fire, zero failure to eject.

Even simply testing reliability and firing as quickly as I could bring the front sight back on target I got more than just acceptable SD groups at 5, 7, 10 and 15 yards.

Biggest issue is magazine release is VERY stiff when trying to eject a full eight round magazine with one in the chamber.



"Doctor, it hurts when I do that."

"Then don't do that."

So four Tisas 1911s.

Zero issues with any of them other than my brother-in-law taking the "Carry" and not giving it back and my old eyes dealing with the 1920s design GI sights on the "Army".

 

[Mark_Mark]

Just got back from the range.

Booooooring!

Worked with Wilson, CheckMate, Ed Brown, ACT and MecGar magazines.

Worked with seven round and eight round magazines.

Worked with ball, jhp, arx and +P ammo.

Zero failure to feed, zero failure to go into battery, zero failure to fire, zero failure to eject.

Even simply testing reliability and firing as quickly as I could bring the front sight back on target I got more than just acceptable SD groups at 5, 7, 10 and 15 yards.

Biggest issue is magazine release is VERY stiff when trying to eject a full eight round magazine with one in the chamber.



"Doctor, it hurts when I do that."

"Then don't do that."

So four Tisas 1911s.

Zero issues with any of them other than my brother-in-law taking the "Carry" and not giving it back and my old eyes dealing with the 1920s design GI sights on the "Army".

mag release lighting is EASY!!!!

What a BORING gun!!! lol

 

[trackskippy]

Zero issues with any of them other than my brother-in-law taking the "Carry" and not giving it back and my old eyes dealing with the 1920s design GI sights on the "Army".

I hear ya on the small sights and old eyes. Having those replaced with three dots and a dovetailed front was usually one of the first things I did on guns that had them. Lately though, Ive been leaving them alone and just putting a little flo-orange nail polish on the front sights. Makes a big difference, and works really well. Even shooting quickly, all you need do is put that orange dot on target, and its usually "good enough".

 

[Jdague12]

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Feels great in the hand, No range report yet...Sorry.

Took my new 10mm to the range on January 2nd. Shot about 200 of my reloads through it. NO misfires. NO ftf’s. It shot EVERYTHING beautifully. Feels awesome in my hands and shoots like a dream. Had to adjust sights to the left and she’s dead on now. First Tisas I’ve ever shot and I have a newfound love. Great firearm!!!

 

[tommy.duncan]

Took my new 10mm to the range on January 2nd. Shot about 200 of my reloads through it. NO misfires. NO ftf’s. It shot EVERYTHING beautifully. Feels awesome in my hands and shoots like a dream. Had to adjust sights to the left and she’s dead on now. First Tisas I’ve ever shot and I have a newfound love. Great firearm!!!

Awesome!! I can't wait to shoot it!!

 

[Tiribulus]

Classic Firearms had the Tisas "Duty" 111A1s on sale for $339.99 and despite my resolve that was simply too tempting for me to pass up. I already had the Tisas "Army" version but the "Duty" had Novak style three dot sights that worked with my Gen-U-Wine WWII issue eyes better than the Gen-U-Wine post WWI sights on the "Army" as well as a fancy long trigger and a beaver tail that rivaled the duck tail haircut I had in the 1950s.

The gun shipped on time and arrived in one of the black plastic cases with two CheckMate 8 round magazines. Field strip showed absolutely impeccable machining, fit and finish and no MIM parts in evidence except maybe the recoil spring cap. The trigger as it came from the factory has an average 3 pound 7 ounce pull as well as a very short and tactile reset.

I probably won't get to the range until the end of the week; I got Covid as a Christmas present and still simply run out of steam quickly. I expect that it will preform pretty much like the "Army" or "Carry" or "Tanker" though. Range report will follow.

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Looks like you actually did get it at Classic after all

 

[Lennyjoe]

Yea thanks guys…..ya all talked me into another purchase….smh

 

[Jimfern]

Yea thanks guys…..ya all talked me into another purchase….smh
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that's krazy cheap!

 

[Mark_Mark]

Yea thanks guys…..ya all talked me into another purchase….smh
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THATS A GREAT PRICE!!!!

all that for $340!

Only in America!!!

 

[Slamfire]

I purchased one of these this year:



changed the grip and hammer




When the local gunstore dropped the price to $329, I bought another. New grip and Tisas GI hammer



The sights on these are large, not GI.





shoots good



















So far my Tisas 1911's are as accurate as I am with irons. I can do better with optical sights. The pistols reliably go bang, the brass is knocked in a 360 degree circle, which is a bit of a bother. I was able to pick the best of three at the Local Gunstore, and both of my Tisas's are amazingly tight. I called customer service, they said the sears were MIM. They said the slide and frame were 4605 steel. I could not find the material properties for 4605 steel, but did find properties for MIM 4605.

as sintered

Ultimate strength 84, Kpsia
Yield 47 Kpsia
Elongation 15%
Charpy Impact 40 ft/lb

quenched and tempered

Ultimate 215 kpsia
Yield 190 kpsia
Elongation 2%
Charpy 29 ft/lb

4605 looks to be an appropriate steel, the Charpy impact values for the sintered steel shows it is a tough steel, and that is what you want in a handgun,. Assuming there is a heat treat to make the metal to be strong enough for the loads, after that, you want a long fatigue life, and that is toughness.

you don't want this:



nor this (also from 1911 forum)





Just type in Cracked slide https://www.1911forum.com/search/352131/?q=cracked+slide&o=relevance, or cracked 1911 at the 1911forum. Be surprised about the things you see.


https://www.1911forum.com/threads/tisas-1911-soft-steel.1048462/page-7

There was so much derp in this thread we had to sign up to respond:

• Tisas meets all NATO-spec and CIP certifications for manufacturing small arms. US-bound firearms meet SAAMI spec.
• Barrels/slides/frames are hammer forged and heat treated/stress relieved and are regularly tested.
• Slides/frames are machined from pre-hardened steel to prevent warping from post-machine heat treat. This slows cutting times and eats tooling but yields a more consistent product.
• Tisas has eliminated MIM parts with the exception of the recoil spring plug, once any remaining parts inventories have been consumed. All current production are machined parts.

Tisas has been a supplier of domestic and export government contract firearms since the 1990's. Everything from TT-33 pistols to PKM LMG's, 9mm duty pistols and M4 copies. We'll get a page set up here shortly to include them all, but remember that this is just a response to the old 'soft Turkish steel' story.


Composition of MIM 4605 is a low alloy steel.

Carbon 0.4-0.6%
Mo 0.2-0.5%
Ni 1.5-2.5%

I am sure the nickel helps in toughness. It is clearly superior to the WW2 materials.






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[Taroman]

Wowzer! That looks great.
Did you Cerakote it, or did it come that way?

 

[CajunBass]

Wowzer! That looks great. Did you Cerakote it, or did it come that way?

That's the way it came, Cerakoted from the factory.

I think the 9mm version looks even better.





AFAIK, that's the way they're all finished, except for the stainless ones of course.

 

[CapnMac]

Yeah, they look good out of the box.

And, better, with a touch of tinkering:

 

[halfmoonclip]

Their flats are dead flat, and no tooling is visible.
Have the GI version; it may get a range run this evening. I'll put a little silver marker on the GI front sight. Have some Colts with great sights, so keeping this one GI is okay.
Really amazed at their value for money, or just how good they are, period.
Moon

 

[trackskippy]

Its starting to feel like they are the Norinco's of the 2020's.

 

[jar]

So did a range day and guess what? The 1924 1911A1 Government sights sudden got really really good.

Today's Colt is the one on the left:

Colt 1903 Type 1 made in 1906.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I wish Tisas could do a finish like this!!!

 

[jar]

Another range session, this time at 25 yards. Again, zero failure to feed, zero failure to go into battery, zero failure to fire and zero failure to eject. Accuracy was more than acceptable for self defense and the limit was my eyes and that I'm still tiring easily after Covid.

I really like this pistol.

 

[Slamfire]

I wish Tisas could do a finish like this!!!

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Give it time, lots of time, and your new Tisas will look like a hundred year pistol, in 2123!

 

[Mark_Mark]

Give it time, lots of time, and your new Tisas will look like a hundred year pistol, in 2123!

I will be 144 yo! mabey the $2500 price tag might tag is alright! lol

 

[Lennyjoe]

I will be 144 yo! mabey the $2500 price tag might tag is alright! lol

What ya tryin to say Willis?

 

[Mark_Mark]

What ya tryin to say Willis?

That the prices tag might be alright for a Colt that’s already 100 yo and looks cool

 

[jar]

Another thirty-two rounds through the new "Duty" so that puts me at something over 180 rounds. I had one failure to feed but pretty sure it was user error; thumb on slide lock syndrome. So far the only issue has been the owner.

I really like this pistol. Best $340 pistol I've bought in several decades.

 

[Lennyjoe]

Shot over 100 rounds today with a mix of FMJ and JHP. Had 1 of the factory magazines stovepipe a Zero JHP bullet on the 2nd round on 2 different occasions. Worked fine with the other factory magazine and a Wilson 47 D. All shots were at 15 yds indoor.