Fitting awkward shaped guns in a safe....

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Rembrandt

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Anyone else have trouble fitting bulky awkward shaped guns in their safe? Worst culprits seem to be military "black" rifles, especially those with scopes. Don't know whether it's time to order another safe or restructure the interior layout. Tough having nice collectibles next to black guns that teeter precariously and takes up multiple spaces.

Any solutions short of getting another safe? Suggestions and pics welcomed.
 
Depends on what you're keeping them in the safe for. I am not worried about crooks out for the value of the weapon. I do worry about kids, etc. So I just keep the bolts in a safe. I figure that renders the firearm safe enough for my needs.

Mike
 
I know what you mean Rembrandt. My AR-15 has an A2 upper and is a PITA to keep in the safe. I have to put a scope adapter in the safe spot where I put it. Another one that is a pain is a Swiss K31. The bolt handle sticks out farther then other bolt guns and gets in the way.
 
I have a lot of rifles that don't quite fit in the safe. I finally got tired of fighting with them and decided to redo our bedroom. Now I have all the bulky ones hanging on the walls as decoration.:D
I am not real concerned about break-ins/ theft because our bedroom is upstairs and I figure if anyone was to ever break-in they would go after the shop before our bedroom. And as far as kids go our oldest is 6 and she can't reach them, they are all unloaded, and would be way too heavy for her to lift anyways.
And the plus side now my bedroom looks really cool!:p
 
I've put my two black rifles in the safe "backwards", i.e., with the scopes toward the inside of the safe. It's the only way I could find to keep the scopes from resting against the safe wall and keeping the barrels in mid-air. The barrels now rest in the foam indents (yes, this is a small, cheap Wal-Mart safe), and are stable and don't take up more than one "space". The other firearms fit next to them nicely. Might work for you.............
 
what i do is buy those Remington gun-socks ($5 each) and sleeve each long gun. that way they can all kind of be crammed in there and not have to worry about them dinging eachother up.
 
The only thing I have been able to do is place my AK and the M4 on the outside of the partitions. The AK is already short enough and with the stock collapsed on the M4 they both fit under the board with the partitions in it and thus they are off to the side of the other rifles.
 
I to have issues with the military weapons, esp. the two AK's. One has a Aimpoint on a Ultimak rail, and since the damned thing is to short to reach the rests, it rests on the Aimpoint itself. For that I put it up front, turn it sideways and lean it on the others. I have to leave the bolt on the M44 open or else I can fit anything next to it. Even with an extention for scoped rifles, the scope on the mosin sniper has to be taken off. Its a bit crowded since I am two or so over capacity. Hopefully that will be taken care of soon.
 
I have found it seems to work better for me if I put all of the military pattern guns next to each other. The ARs, AK, etc. all seem to have a million things jutting out every which direction.
 
My Mosin with PU Sniper scope is the biggest pain in the... Neck. No matter how I lean it the scope hit's the wall. I ended up turning it around so the scope is facing the opposite wall. My M48a and K31 are the other two culprits in my safe, have to watch when taking a gun out from next to them, bolts have a tendency to get caught on things like the trigger guard or slings.
 
I would like to have the rifle storage in three or four pull-out racks similar to kitchen cabinette garbage can storage. I believe I have seen something similar in the past. Odd shaped smaller things such as AR uppers I hang on the door.
 
There used to be lockable display hooks available. they were adequate to keep 'em out of the kiddie's hands, and if mounted to studs would require some effort for a theif.
 
Might consider taking your AR lower apart from your upper. On bolt rifles, it can help to take the bolts out of the guns. Make sure that you get some of those tags with strings to label each bolt, though. Could be bad if you had a couple of the same guns in different calibers and accidently swapped out the bolts.
 
The rotary racks can work quite well in these situations. while it seems they might decrease your capacity, they really don't seem to.
 
Thanks for the ideas.....going to design something to remedy this problem. Will try to incorporate slide out sections for different gun actions that can be universal to fit any configuration. Stay tunned for a photo how to....
 
The more of these threads I read about gun safe's the more I keep thinking that a vault door, and a room is the way to go.
 
On the AR15's, the problem that I have are the pistol grips being in the way.

They stick out and make it hard to get another rifle past it. I tilt the rifle a little to one side and that helps.
 
The only device I've not seen for the AR-15 which may help is a speed detach device for the pistol grip. It fits in with a lot of the accessories I've seen. It has a niche market, it does one thing well enough that enough people will buy it that it never ever goes away but the maker only makes beer money off of it. ;)
 
I've starting buying "bore stores" for my long guns. They're about $8-10 each and a pretty thick breatheable silicone impregnated synthetic material. They give a pretty good padding to each gun and I don't feel so bad about crowding them all together and bumping them into each other.
 
Tough having nice collectibles next to black guns that teeter precariously and takes up multiple spaces.

Any solutions short of getting another safe? Suggestions and pics welcomed.

Sounds to me like you are trying to make the inside of the safe look "pretty" when you open it. I tried that for a while too, finally gave up.

Now I wrap the collectible types in a gun sock and just pile them all in the safe. Most of the guns touch each other :eek: and it doesn't look like a brochure photo anymore, but everything fits, all piled in there.
 
I have a rack of "regular" guns inside the safe, and two ARs sideways against the sides.

Of course, that's 10 guns out of 103...

I like the locking rack, because I want to display them, once I move to a bigger house. What kind of price are we talking?
 
Hi Madmike, The 6 rifle gun rack cost around $110 USD the problem is that the shipping cost from New Zealand to the USA is out of this world
Posting via air freight 3 to 6 days service with tracking number
cost around $80 USD which is the killer, I'm trying to track down a cheaper way to ship these to the US which is hard as New Zealand is a small country with limited frieght services also New Zealand is halve way around the world from the USA. Cheers Peter

This is our new web site which is under construction this site will target the USA and world market
http://www.securegunracks.com
 
You either need a US importer or a US subsidiary mfr.

I kinda like the idea. Have them locked but still on display.

I remember when it was safe to just hang them on the wall or in a glass case. Sigh.
 
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