Florida CCW halfway to becoming National CCW

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Greetings. I'd gotten out of the habit of checking in on www.packing.org every so often to see how laws were changing. But recently, I decided to fire it up and see how useful my Florida non-resident CCW had become. Note that I have never actually been to Florida in my adult life; I just applied for an NR CCW through the mail.

To my surprise and delight, I realized that a Florida CCW permit is now good in 26 states (FL resident) or 24 states for non-residents.

States that recognize the FL CCW:

Alabama
Alaska (now VT carry anyway, but still)
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Delaware
Georgia
Idaho
Indiana
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan (FL residents only)
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
New Hampshire (FL residents only. Future VT carry state?)
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Wyoming

[NOTE: nothing contained in this thread is legal advice, I'm just quoting www.packing.org]

So, as a FL non-resident, that's 24 states for me. Plus a WA permit gets me WA and MI.

Further, many of the states that don't recognize the FL permit have their own, easy to get, state permits. Washington and Oregon are pretty straightforward, and I imagine Virginia and West Virginia can't be too bad, to say nothing of Nevada. So, aside from CA, the Upper Midwest, and the East Coast Bastion, it looks pretty darn easy to get nationwide coverage these days.

I always did wonder why the Upper Midwest, of all places, has such strict gun legislation. Perhaps that's a question for another thread.

Forgive me if I'm behind the power-curve with this information, but I figured there had to be a few folks besides me who hadn't realized how vigorously FL has sought out reciprocity. Take care, -MV
 
As of July 1, Virginia recognizes Florida permits and also issues non-resident permits. (that was not the case before that date, something like 17 pro-gun laws had a start date of 7/1/04)

Kharn
 
Yeah, but if you're going from central Georgia to North Carolina and you're packing, you'd still have to take a long detour around South Carolina to stay legal.
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VA does not yet recognize Florida!

Kharn,

See this thread regarding VA non-resident permits: http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90141

Note that the State Police response to my letter points you to this page that addresses reciprocity and that Florida is not yet listed: http://www.vsp.state.va.us/cjis_reciprocity.htm

It says as of today:

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Listing of states with which Virginia has Reciprocity Agreements: North Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia

Listing of states of which Virginia will grant recognition to valid permit holders: Alaska, Arkansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Washington
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Now hopefully I am wrong - is this something that is going to happen soon and what is your source?
 
If you fuel up at the Georgia line you don't have to stop in SC.

We don't buy gas or eat there for that reason. Too bad, I'd really like to try some Sonny's BBQ.
 
Does anybody know where to find one of the current updates on the "max coverage" contests some gunnies engage in? I know a few folks have carefully researched the details and applied for only the permits they need to obtain maximum CCW coverage. I'd be curious to see how that has changed since the last time I checked in. -MV
 
Highland Ranger:
Among the 17 new laws that became effective 7/1/04, I thought there was one that greatly expanded reciprocity. Maybe the two states havent hashed out the details yet. :eek:

Kharn
 
I have permits from TN, ME, NH, PA, and FL. That gives me 31 states.
(AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, DE, FL, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, ME, MI, MS, MO, MT, NH, NC, ND, OH, OK, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, VA, WY)

I could apply for permits from VA, CT, and MA, which would add CT, MA, and WV to the list. Then, I'd be legal in 34 of 50 states. That's not too bad. There are several others who issue non-resident permits. However, you either need to apply in person, they won't add any new states, or they won't add any states I plan to travel to in the near future. As it is, the MA permit would only be valid for a year, although I do drive thru from time to time to visit my folks in ME.

FWIW, according to packing.org, Washington, DC will now issue non-resident permits, but it appears they would be quite difficult to actually obtain. You'd probably have better luck getting one in CA.
 
Kharn - I think they made the training requirement mandatory which opens the door to a bunch more states for them; I don't think there was anything specific otherwise. The response from the State Police was succinct; check the web site. When it says it there it is I guess.

I'll probably still go ahead and get the Virginia non-res permit anyway. I'm down there often enough.

Sisco - the thread I referenced above points you to the Virginia page or just go to the Virginia page on packing.org for more info.

It's basically the same as the Florida non-resident process; Application, notarized, fingerprint card from your local PD, pictures, proof of firearms training, and I believe $100 and then send youone in the mail.
 
Yeah, but if you're going from central Georgia to North Carolina and you're packing, you'd still have to take a long detour around South Carolina to stay legal.
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Sucks dont it? If not for some of my surrounding states, I wouldnt have bothered with getting my NC permit.
 
SC may not have reciprocity with FL, but they do have gun friendly transport laws. As long as you are just passing through you shouldn't have any problem.

And they also have some strange law that says if you paid the state room tax(like in a motel) you can carry concealed between your car and the room.
 
this doesn't really apply to you since your florida permit covers them, but washington just signed reciprocity with ohio, north carolina, and mississippi
 
I was really thrilled to read about WA finally getting on the reciprocity train.

The good thing is, our CCW standards our low. The bad thing is, due to said low standards, not so many folks want to play with us. But I feel the "lots of checks in the box", but still attainable FL non-resident permit nicely balances a resident WA permit.

Does anyone know who I can email to thank them for adding reciprocity? I checked the Attorney General's webpage, but it says to email the DOL for CCW issues. But maybe that means to contact DOL for the nitty-gritty of getting permits. I just want to hug someone for finally adapting the policy.

Next step: get some dang Oregon reciprocity. It's right freaking next door, people. Similar climate, similar hippies, I just don't see what's so complicated.

(Andy Rooney voice): Didja ever notice that the states with the easiest CCW permits are always the states where you're least likely to actually need a pistol?
 
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