Florida gun laws about to change

[BogBabe]

Among Florida's pro-gun features that have already been mentioned, don't forget these:

1. Florida was one of the first in the nation to implement shall-issue carry permits.

2. The state has a specific number of days in which it much process your permit application.

3. If your application is rejected due to an "illegible fingerprint card," they can only ask for re-submission of said card once -- if they still consider the 2nd set illegible, they must issue your permit anyway (providing you meet the other criteria). This prevents anti-gun bureaucrats in Tallahassee from delaying your application indefinitely.

4. Florida is very pro-active in pursuing reciprocal carry recognition with other states. Currently, I believe Florida has recip agreements with more states than any other state.

All indications are that Florida's pro-gun stance will not only continue but increase.

 

[Glock_10mm]

Joab, I dont want an arguement, but from what I've been reading, your area (orange county) tends to have not really changed how police treat cases concerning the law. Here in Palm Beach county, they have been treating the cases with the new law, and have even tried to inact them retroactively to old cases. I think our differences are based on our location, which is much more of my point, that you should be aware of how the major cities treat the new laws vs how the outside cities and counties treat them. The law itself is pretty straight forward, its just how each judical court and city intrepret it. We current;y have a 2004 shooting case in WPB that is being retried and they are trying to retroactively apply the new law. It was initially denied, but the State supreme court is hearing the appeal to enact it...I guess that will be the true test of how the state really views the new law.

Either way, Florida is pretty Pro-Gun, and one of the best in the country in favor of guns! Just check the locale you are looking at going into and see how the police are reacting to the laws. For instance, I found Duval (Jax) and St. John's county (St. Augustine) are very non tolerant counties. You sneeze the wrong way and you might end up in trouble. Who knows how they
will react to the new law or current laws. I guess your best bet is to talk to people who live in the county/city you are moving into, and get their opinion. Overall, FL itself is pretty good, and definately looser than NYC!

As for gun shows, I'm not trying to promote any bad advice as I'm more asking to find out rather than state a fact, but aren't there still (in a few counties), the ability to buy a handgun via private sale without background checks at a show? I know most counties have restricted this, as there were huge broblems in Broward (ft lauderdale) and Hillsboro (tampa), but I was just wondering. I am all pro gun, but I feel its easy enough to get a CCW if you want to walk out with a handgun, so they shoudl close this loophole if they havn't already.

 

[joab]

that you should be aware of how the major cities treat the new laws vs how the outside cities and counties treat them.

Orlando is still considered a major city in Fla

The law itself is pretty straight forward, its just how each judical court and city intrepret it

That's what state and district court are for

We current;y have a 2004 shooting case in WPB that is being retried and they are trying to retroactively apply the new law.

If you can not be retroactively charged for a crime that was not a crime when you committed it you should not be able to retroactively use a defense that did not exist at the time of the incident.
Either way the accused will have to show that he had no other choice but to use deadly force in public and the Fla constitution has always instructed DAs to "liberally construe the law in favor of the homeowner" if the incident occurred at his place of residence at the time home.

the ability to buy a handgun via private sale without background checks at a show?

Orange Seminole require no intrusive background check for private sale, at a gunshow or any other legal location.

but I was just wondering. I am all pro gun, but I feel its easy enough to get a CCW if you want to walk out with a handgun,

It's easy enough to get on any state regulated list that you want to, perhaps we should all go down and volunteer for the DNA database or RFID program when it gets here.
We should not be forced to go down with our hats in our hands to apply to pay for the privilege of exercising our rights.

so they shoudl close this loophole if they havn't already.

Loophole my ass. It's a private sale of privately own merchandise no matter where the transaction takes place.

Possibly the problem is not with the politicians down south but with the voter base that put those politicians in power.

 

[Stauble]

We should not be forced to go down with our hats in our hands to apply to pay for the privilege of exercising our rights.

+1

 

[10MMGary]

Joab you are the man! That is one of the best replies to total horse hockey I have read in a long time. I am only sorry that I didn't remember to come re-check this thread sooner. You are so on target you should be an forward observer in an artillery unit in your next life . I mean it my man very well said!

P.S. This is not directed at Joab. It is Hillsborough county FL not "Hillsboro", Additionally I go to several gunshows a year and have never seen anyone selling loopholes, so I really don't see the need to close them .

 

[tegemu]

Yes I do think our gun laws are about to change - for the better.

 

[David904]

Florida is great with regards to being CCW friendly. I was pulled over recently by an FHP Trooper to inform me that one of my taillights were out. No ticket involved - just a friendly community-minded notice (not even required to prove I fixed it.) Anyway, I was carrying my .45 at the time and informed the Trooper as to the fact when he approached the car. He simply smiled and asked me what I carried. We then had a brief but pleasant conversation about our respective firearms and then I went on about my merry.

CCW laws here have finally taken a tack that that forces the courts to look at self defense cases in the light that shey should be looked at - not with the idea of trying to crucify the individual for protecting himself/herself.

I work in some of the worst areas of Bradenton, FL and have had an attempted carjacking and an attempted mugging done on me. Neither of which were successful directly because I had my CCW. And believe it or not, my CCW actually made the entire situation safer for everyone... even those not directly involved. I've also been present at the time of a stabbing and a shooting (both gang-related) at an establishment across the street from where I was working.

I'm grateful to JEB for taking a more commonsense approach to the CCW issue. I feel better knowing that should the worst case scenario transpire and I am unable to run away - and I would muuuuuch rather do just that - I will be able to exercise appropriate mature judgement, defend myself, and be immune to civil suits when/if I am found innocent.

 

[MarkDido]

Jeb has been good for firearms owners in Florida. I hope Charlie Crist will be as good.

 

[ProguninTN]

FL Laws

If FL, laws change I can only hope that there is a push for Open Carry. I don't care if guns scare people. The nation was founded by people with guns. If you don't like that, go back to your anti-gun state or get out of the country.