Florida gunnies - don't shop at Publix

[FCFC]

While the letter is misleading and more than likely doesn't apply to any of us as we don't work at Publix, it doesn't make it any less important.

I was only clarifying that this particular law only applies to employees keeping their weapons in their vehicles.

Why does the letter have to be misleading? What's Hammer's point in making it misleading?

We still need to fight this one. We can't ignore it simply because we don't work at Publix or Disney or Georgia Pacific. While boycotting Publix won't work for some of us, there are other ways to voice your displeasure. Like bogie said, politely tell the manager your displeasure.

These guys need our help with this regardless of where we all work.

I think we need to be very careful about encroaching on someone else's rights. Publix, within constitutional and reasonable limits, has a right to direct activities on their property.

It's a slightly complicated issue, of course, but right now I see the rightness of Publix, Disney, Georgia Pacific, and mom/pop businesses to control their property in a way they see fit, as long as it is constitutional, legal and fair.

And, as a consumer, I don't really want to pay higher prices for products I buy if the retailers are somehow forced to go along with arbitrary rights that are simply fabricated by employees. Property rights, within obvious limitations, rule. If the employees want to negotiate some new rights with employers or if someone wants to pass a constitutional amendment to change the status quo, fine. That's the way to do it.

 

[XDKingslayer]

Why does the letter have to be misleading? What's Hammer's point in making it misleading?

The letter is misleading because it makes it sound like Publix is stopping all people from having a gun in their parking lot when it's only for employees.

I think we need to be very careful about encroaching on someone else's rights. Publix, within constitutional and reasonable limits, has a right to direct activities on their property.

No they don't. Not since the state passed the bill saying that companies must allow workers to keep their weapons in their vehicles on company property if the company doesn't allow them to carry on their person.

It's no longer a complicated issue once the state passed that bill.

 

[Kawasabi]

This is incorrect. Disney checks bags. They do not search your person, under your shirt, jacket, etc. I have CCWd in all of Disney worlds "kingdoms" many, many times, both in pocket holsters and IWB. Concealed means concealed, and I don't carry off-body anyway.

Thought they had metal detectors?

 

[Ruger Redhawk]

I must be lucky or good, I had my G-27 on the whole time I was at Epcot by Dizzy World.They were checking bags,purses etc as people were entering. I walked right thru it.I packed the entire day.If they don't welcome my gun,then I'm not welcomed and I go elsewhere.

 

[misANTHrope]

No they don't. Not since the state passed the bill saying that companies must allow workers to keep their weapons in their vehicles on company property if the company doesn't allow them to carry on their person.

No offense, but that's horrendous logic. Legality and morality are not coincident, and making something illegal does not make it wrong. By this logic, none of us have the right to own post-86 full autos. By this logic, I don't have the right to defend myself in Tennessee until I've paid the state $100 and waited three months for my HCP.

Equating the law with "the right thing" is a bad precedent to set, and it's the whole reason we have the judicial branch, to examine laws with an eye towards Constitutionality and strike them down as necessary.

 

[XDKingslayer]

Equating the law with "the right thing" is a bad precedent to set, and it's the whole reason we have the judicial branch, to examine laws with an eye towards Constitutionality and strike them down as necessary.

Either I'm not following you or you didn't understand my post.

Right thing or wrong thing, the bill passed. Companies must allow workers to keep their guns in their cars. Until that bill is challenged and overturned is it not still a law the companies must follow?

It seems like you don't have an understanding of the law. The law was a victory for gun owners. Companies wanted to stop employees from keeping their guns in their cars and the state forced the companies to allow it.

 

[hso]

Let's get back on track.

 

[Solo Flyer]

Thought they had metal detectors?

They don't.And I've been there 4 times.They don't do body searches.Backpacks,purses, off body items are randomly searched.

 

[Shawnee]

I don't know if they are actually funding the anti-CCW effort in Florida but I do know the State Farm Insurance regional office for Florida (Winter Haven) has supported the anti-CCW effort in practice... and they could not do so without the blessing of the national headquarters in Bloomington, Illinois.

 

[XDKingslayer]

Illinois

'nuf said...

 

[jhco]

i do work at publix and i do carry in the truck to work always have always will no matter of the companies policies

 

[gym]

This is nothing new, I posted several times that Win Dixie in Boca Raton had a sign ,"no firearms in the store", no one paid attention, we just had a discussion recentlly about this. They were asked to remove the sign, since state law supercedes their own policys, and If they don't own the center, they can't do anything anyway. It's just more nonsense. Same in my Gym, Partner wanted no-gun policy, problem was every other member was a LEO. Again unenforcable, the owner of the store can only dictate what the employees can do inside the store especially if he dosn't own the property. If he does, just park accross the road.

 

[bogie]

guys, the best thing to do is have a quiet, polite, chat with the manager...

angle: you are concerned about safety, and having a sign up lets criminals know that they can easily rob the place or its patrons...

As for a grocery that has told its employees that they can't park in the lot with boomstick in the trunk (the original thread topic, folks...):

Again, have a polite chat with the manager, and tell him that the policy bothers you, because you know they only hire fine upstanding folks, and you'd really hate to hear about one of your favorite employees getting fired because they were going to go hunting or shooting for recreation before or after work.

Be nice. But do it. If you don't do it, don't bitch about it.

 

[scurtis_34471]

lets ay you're in disney or publix with your CCW and weapon and you ignored
the anti gun signs (if any) is it toothless like Nevada where they can only tell you to leave if caught or is it a crime to ignore the signs?

No guns signs in Florida are not worth the paper they are printed on. They are the same as Nevada. As private property owners, they can ask you to leave. If you refuse, it is criminal trespass.

Concealed is concealed. I don't know a single carrier in Florida that pays any attention to No Guns signs.

 

[ChrisVV]

Why would it be an issue if my firearm is concealed? the only person who is going to know is the one who tries to rob me in the parking lot.

 

[Tortuga12]

It's OK....

I prefer Sweetbay, they have the best produce in our area, bar none!! Little expensive, but that just keeps the crowds down.

 

[Robert Hairless]

Honestly, I don't have any beef with Publix. They have some of the highest quality with fair prices. Unless they plan on searching your car, how're they going to know the difference? Now, if they wanna search me before I shop there, then I'm going elsewhere.

In the meantime,

If I boycotted everything that is anti-gun, all I would have is guns.

Darned right. I'm in favor of the Second Amendment too, and of the rest of the Constitution, but not when I have to pay more for something or it inconveniences me. Let somebody else do that kind of stuff if they want. I am in this for me.

If Publix searches its employees or their cars that's none of my business. But if they wanna search me that's an outrage!

Why should I go out of my way for the ability of Publix employees in Florida to have a self-defense weapon in their cars. That's ridiculous. I don't work for Publix and don't live in Florida, so I don't care about them.

I am a gun owner and a Second Amendment activist. Let me know when there's something that benefits me. Who cares about anyone else.

 

[MIL-DOT]

I shop and carry at both Winn Dixie and Publix regularly. It's unlikely I'd notice a sign even if they posted it. In fact.......i can guarantee it !!

 

[Solo Flyer]

Senior Member
I shop and carry at both Winn Dixie and Publix regularly. It's unlikely I'd notice a sign even if they posted it. In fact.......i can guarantee it !!

You are evil!

 

[FCFC]

I'm in favor of the Second Amendment too, and of the rest of the Constitution, but not when I have to pay more for something or it inconveniences me. Let somebody else do that kind of stuff if they want. I am in this for me.

If Publix searches its employees or their cars that's none of my business. But if they wanna search me that's an outrage!

Why should I go out of my way for the ability of Publix employees in Florida to have a self-defense weapon in their cars. That's ridiculous. I don't work for Publix and don't live in Florida, so I don't care about them.

I am a gun owner and a Second Amendment activist. Let me know when there's something that benefits me. Who cares about anyone else.

I look at it somewhat differently--but with a very similar final result.

I think Publix has property rights and should be able to manage its business the way it sees fit (if it complies with all commercial laws and regs). So, if they want to make prohibitions of employees that don't violate applicable law, that's up to them. If employees want to negotiate gun-related work conditions with and employer, that'd be fine too.

If Publix were actually violating anyone's 2A rights, including its employees rights, then I would definitely consider boycotting them, protesting their actions or trying to convince them to change. I would do this even if it cost me more $$ since I believe that the violation of 2A rights anywhere affects 2Aers everywhere.

 

[hso]

Well, this one's been decided for the good guys (us).

This thread can be closed.