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Florida vs. Georgia ...who has better laws

Discussion in 'Legal' started by psyprofessor, Jun 26, 2009.

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  1. psyprofessor

    psyprofessor Member

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    Ok...guys (and gals)... argue your case which state is more pro 2nd Amendment... Florida or Georgia?

    I looked up both states gun laws...and Georgia has laws against carrying in "public gatherings" which seems to general... (and thus seem restrictive)...but they do allow open carry...(which is more permissive than Florida)

    Let me know what you guys think... Argue your case..
     
  2. OurSafeHome.net

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    Florida.

    (We do have to reform the Open Carry nonsense, though.)

    Our CCW License is honored in 33 states (for residents) and 27 (for non-residents).
     
  3. oneounceload

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    except FL has a three day waiting period for a handgun which is ridiculous.

    I used to live in NV - guns were advertised in the paper, folks bought and sold at garage sales no problem......the local drug store sold guns - you could go there and buy a gun, ammunition, go to the back section and buy a bottle of whiskey, then go to the counter and get your mood meds - all in one store........without any waiting.........
     
  4. cbrgator

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    True. But it doesn't apply to CCW holders. :)
     
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    Not if you have a CCW permit, or already own at least one firearm.

    Georgia law that really sucks rocks:

    Even if you are in your car in the parking lot of a public gathering, you are still breaking the law. "we have held that the offense of carrying a firearm at a public gathering may occur in a parking area on the grounds of and in close proximity to a public gathering." See Farmer v. State, 112 Ga.App. 438(1c), 145 S.E.2d 594 (1965).


    Listen to this quote:

    Also, you cannot have a firearm on or about your person without a permit unless you are in YOUR own home. If I am staying with my mother, I cannot have a firearm on my person without a permit.


    All of these (especially the rather loose meaning of "public gathering") means I avoid GA if possible.
     
  6. sig228

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    Not sure about Georgia, but here in Florida, our RKBA is spelled out in our state constitution. About the only thing local governments can do is change our wait period, which is a non issue anyway if you have a cwp. Restaurant carry, no duty to retreat, castle doctrine all make this a great pro 2a state. Too bad I live in the anti 2a section, but oh well......
     
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    Kennesaw, Georgia has a law on the books that says each household is required to own and maintain a firearm and ammunition. It's not enforced or anything, and you can conscienciously object and so forth but it's reassuring to know the local attitude on 2A (it's my old hometown).
     
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    Also, not sure what kind of license Georgia hands out, but at least in FL, we have concealed weapons permits, which let you carry pretty much anything you can conceal and isn't illegal otherwise. So want to carry a full auto knife? Sure. A 8" fixed blade? No problem. A shorty shotgun properly registered? Why not. :) All things one cannot carry normally without a license.
     
  9. more forty fives

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    I was wondering about the switch blade knife here In FL.So is it legal with a cwp permit or not? If I understand PAUL34 it is.
     
  10. barnetmill

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    Please correct me if I am wrong, but I recall that it is no longer legal to carry a machinepistol concealed in Florida.
     
  11. cbrgator

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    Does that mean if I wear a big trenchcoat and could effectively conceal an AR-15, I could carry that around too? Are you sure, or just guessing?
     
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    I live in FL, and I'm pretty happy with our gun laws here. Not quite perfect, but few if any states are.

    Shall issue state, CCW permit covers weapons other than firearms (i.e. folding knives etc), castle doctrine, stand your ground, etc.

    One of the only things we don't have is open carry. I personally wouldn't open carry anyway, so this is not a big deal for me (though it would be nice if it was allowed). The 3 day wait period doesn't apply to me since I have a CCW.

    I'm not very familiar w/ Georgia's laws, so not in a position to compare the two. What I do know is that there are a LOT of states that are much less gun owner friendly than FL, and I'm happy I live in a state that supports my RKBA.
     
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    Better Law? Isn't that an oxymoron?
     
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    I vote for GA, but only because I'm military. Georgia law exempts active duty from all carry restrictions and the need for a permit all together.:)

     
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    ^ ahhh good old 16-11-130...immunity is nice, isn't it? I know...I was there :)
     
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    "Florida vs. Georgia ...who has better laws"

    Georgia. And they seem to get incrementally better with each legislative session.
     
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    "3) Persons in the military service of the state or of the United States;"

    Are you sure the next sentence isn't something to the effect of":

    "but only in the discharge of their official duties" ?

    Because if it is you, as military, can only carry if your official duty says you can, and only while you're on official gub'ment business.
     
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    I don't know about Florida but there are many restrictions on carry in Georgia. Also the Georgia Firearms License is just a firearms license & nothing else. GaCarry.Org is trying to push some legislation through next session to change much of this but we're not there yet. Someone else has already linked GaPacking.Org's site that is the best place I know to learn about Georgias firearms laws. There are enough restrictions that it is very easy to unintentionally break the law if you aren't careful.
     
  20. withdrawn34

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    You should be fine. I am not a lawyer, of course, so don't take my word as gospel. As long as the switchblade is otherwise legal, you're fine with a valid Florida CWP or with a license from a state that Florida recognizes.

    I think if the machinepistol itself was legal and properly registered, sure. But can you really (legally) find such an instrument, and would you really use it for a carry weapon? Could you safely carry it? If not, forget it. It'd also put surrounding people in grave danger if you ever had to use it for defense, more so than a regular pistol.

    I don't see anything in Florida statutes to the contrary. However, if you're not safely carrying it that's a problem.

    The spirit of the weapons permit is that one can carry concealed a variety of weaponry as he/she sees fit for their situation, for lawful purposes; examples are "real" switchblades/full auto knives, ASP batons, OC sprays > 3 oz, fixed blade knives of any sort, long folding blades, all manner of "tactical" blades, etc. These are things a non-licensed person would get in trouble for. Also, given the quite vague nature of Florida "ordinary pocketknife" definition, it's worth to have a license even if all you do is carry a pocket knife.

    You don't have to worry about "is my knife legal to carry?" or "can I legally carry a huge can of OC bear spray?" or such. Of course, there are certain exceptions spelled out in Florida statues; for example, "propelled" knives are not allowed. I assume it'd like some sort of knife rocket or knife gun? I'm sure it exists but I've never seen one.

    Anyway, it's possible I could be wrong here, so if anyone wants to chime in feel free to do so. I don't want to give out bad advice, or use such advice myself, even though I don't think I'll ever be concealing an AR-15, lol.
     
  21. cbrgator

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    Me either. But it would fun to know I could. ;)
     
  22. kyo

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    I like the way the direction in GA is going. HB is going to be voted on at the end of the summer I believe that changes "firearms" to "weapons" removes the restriction to only court rooms and government buildings, meaning schools, public gatherings and such, are allowed. Plus, the same bill wants to do a lifetime permit that goes through the secretary of state. Hope it goes through. I would love to carry at school. plus it gets rid of the requirement to have a holster when you conceal

    http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2009_10/sum/hb615.htm
     
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    No. He quoted O.C.G.A. § 16-11-130, (a),(3) in its entirety; it's just those 13 words, verbatim. The next section is - - -

    (4) Persons employed in fulfilling defense contracts with the government of the United States or agencies thereof when possession of the weapon is necessary for manufacture, transport, installation, and testing under the requirements of such contract;
     
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