Hey guys. I'm curious to know if the barrel stamps on the current line of Model 70's says South Carolina or still saying BACO/Morgan Utah like it has since 2006? I understand that Model 70 production is in South Carolina now, yet I saw a new Model 70 in the store that said Baco. Thanks fellas.
FN Winchester Model 70 barrel stamp?
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Browning owns Winchester and FN. The new rifles have --MADE IN USA* BACO INC. MORGAN UTAH- stamped on the right side of the barrel. They are made in SC, but the main office is in Utah.
Older versions will have MADE IN NEW HAVEN CT. USA stamped on them
Older versions will have MADE IN NEW HAVEN CT. USA stamped on them
Browning owns Winchester and FN. The new rifles have --MADE IN USA* BACO INC. MORGAN UTAH- stamped on the right side of the barrel. They are made in SC, but the main office is in Utah.
Older versions will have MADE IN NEW HAVEN CT. USA stamped on them
Thanks, but the ownership info is wrong. FN owns Browning and trademarks Winchester from Olin. Technically Winchester hasn't been owned by "Winchester" since the 1930's. I own 3 New Haven's, and swore those were all I would ever own. Whether pre-64 or post-64..if it was made in the New Haven factory (where they were for 140 years) then it was a genuine Winchester to me, regardless of if it was owned by Olin/USRA. Now I find myself wanting a new rifle. All 3 New Haven's I own I bought used, and I want to buy brand spanking new. I know they have CRF again and a recessed muzzle crown, but I guess I'm just biased lol
Older versions will have MADE IN NEW HAVEN CT. USA stamped on them
Thanks, but the ownership info is wrong. FN owns Browning and trademarks Winchester from Olin. Technically Winchester hasn't been owned by "Winchester" since the 1930's. I own 3 New Haven's, and swore those were all I would ever own. Whether pre-64 or post-64..if it was made in the New Haven factory (where they were for 140 years) then it was a genuine Winchester to me, regardless of if it was owned by Olin/USRA. Now I find myself wanting a new rifle. All 3 New Haven's I own I bought used, and I want to buy brand spanking new. I know they have CRF again and a recessed muzzle crown, but I guess I'm just biased lol
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the barrel stamp on mine (bought new two weeks ago) says Utah.
Does Winchester really even exist anymore?
Even with Olin ownership you could say that a New Haven produced rifle was a Winchester.
Today, I'd say there is a strong case for them no longer being Winchesters but in name. Heck, Winchester shotguns are nothing more than re-labeled Browning's now aren't they?
Even with Olin ownership you could say that a New Haven produced rifle was a Winchester.
Today, I'd say there is a strong case for them no longer being Winchesters but in name. Heck, Winchester shotguns are nothing more than re-labeled Browning's now aren't they?
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I just bought a new Winchester (30-06, Ultimate Shadow)
Shoots great, the finish is excellent, the fit is excellent...regardless of where it was made, the new Winchesters just might be the best ones ever made.
Shoots great, the finish is excellent, the fit is excellent...regardless of where it was made, the new Winchesters just might be the best ones ever made.
Most of their guns are still made on original Winchester designs. AFAIK Browning doesn't have any manufacturing plants either. Most of their stuff is made by Mirokou and FN,
Does Winchester really even exist anymore?
Even with Olin ownership you could say that a New Haven produced rifle was a Winchester.
Today, I'd say there is a strong case for them no longer being Winchesters but in name. Heck, Winchester shotguns are nothing more than re-labeled Browning's now aren't they?
Those are my sentiments exactly. My 338, 30-06, and 7mm Mag were all New Haven's and real Winchesters IMHO. When I think of Utah...I don't think of Winchester and the pride of New England lol
Even with Olin ownership you could say that a New Haven produced rifle was a Winchester.
Today, I'd say there is a strong case for them no longer being Winchesters but in name. Heck, Winchester shotguns are nothing more than re-labeled Browning's now aren't they?
Those are my sentiments exactly. My 338, 30-06, and 7mm Mag were all New Haven's and real Winchesters IMHO. When I think of Utah...I don't think of Winchester and the pride of New England lol
Winchester was sold to a group of investors in 1980 and the company name was "United States Repeating Arms Company" for a long time. Many guns actually had USRAC stamped on them.
The FN made model 70's do differ just a bit from the New Haven models, but it is close enough for me. As a rule they are far better than the New Haven guns. The only real change was in the trigger design. I prefer the older style trigger, but as long as the new trigger proves it will work, I'm happy.
This is really no different from most other gun companies. Smith & Wesson has been bought and sold several times. Remington, Marlin and many others have been as well. Ruger is the only American gun company that I'm certain is still under the original ownership, although there are probably others. I don't closely follow such things.
The FN made model 70's do differ just a bit from the New Haven models, but it is close enough for me. As a rule they are far better than the New Haven guns. The only real change was in the trigger design. I prefer the older style trigger, but as long as the new trigger proves it will work, I'm happy.
This is really no different from most other gun companies. Smith & Wesson has been bought and sold several times. Remington, Marlin and many others have been as well. Ruger is the only American gun company that I'm certain is still under the original ownership, although there are probably others. I don't closely follow such things.
Well many of the guns that Winchester is most known for today and guns that made Winchester a lot of money were designed in Utah, or at least by a man from Utah.
And the "Pride of New England" turned out some really awful rifles off and on from 1964-2006. Some were as good as anything. Others, were a joke. If you like Winchesters, you should be glad production was finally moved to South Carolina where they could start making quality rifles again.
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