focus issues on Nikon Black Force 1000 6-24X50

[flexible]

hi everyone, flexible here. I've had a Nikon Black Force for a few years and not much chance to use it - Covid didn't help! I was shooting at 100 yards and couldn't quite focus, thought it was my 72 year old eyes. Then went to the 200/300 yard range with 2 younger nephews and they couldn't focus either.
e-mailed Nikon 3 times with only automated responses so far, haven't tried calling yet.
Has anyone had these issues?
thanks
flexible.

 

[LoonWulf]

hi everyone, flexible here. I've had a Nikon Black Force for a few years and not much chance to use it - Covid didn't help! I was shooting at 100 yards and couldn't quite focus, thought it was my 72 year old eyes. Then went to the 200/300 yard range with 2 younger nephews and they couldn't focus either.
e-mailed Nikon 3 times with only automated responses so far, haven't tried calling yet.
Has anyone had these issues?
thanks
flexible.

I've not had a Nikon black probably never will unless I get a good price on a used one. I have found that recently a number of scopes have not been focused properly for my eyes at least.

With most of them I simply remove the locking ring on the front of lens... carrier? Assembly?...... Whatever it is.... And put a couple of turns clockwise into it while checking to see if I can get it to focus at the ranges I wanted to.
Lately though I found that a lot of the scopes are put together with some kind of glue which requires heating the front housing to even get the lock ring off and then keeping it warm to be able to adjust the lens assembly...... Not really the recommended method for dealing with said problems I'm sure, But so far it's been effective for me.

 

[Walkalong]

With most of them I simply remove the locking ring on the front of lens... carrier? Assembly?...... Whatever it is.... And put a couple of turns clockwise

Counter clockwise for me.

Yep, might just need to set the eyepiece for your older eyes, I know I have to.

 

[tbs]

Try this:
1. set power to max
2. set side focus to infinity
3. briefly look at reticle while pointing scope at plain white surface or toward the sky.
4. adjust ocular lense to focus reticle.
5. repeat step 4 several times
6. once the oclular is adjusted correctly for your eyes don't touch again.
7. check scope focus by adjusting side focus setting.

 

[Walkalong]

I like a blank wall close up instead of the sky, just works better for me.

 

[flexible]

thanks everyone, appreciate the feedback.

flexible

 

[jmr40]

Nikon is out of the scope business, you're on your own. I picked up two 1-4X Nikon Black scopes on 30mm tubes cheap when they were closing out. They have worked fine for me.

In my experience when you get over about 10X you really need a high quality scope, as in one selling in the 4 figure range. You might have better luck on the lower end of the power settings. I've tried to work with some of the $300-$400 scopes that are fine at 6X up to about 10X, but by the time you get to 20X everything was blurry.

 

[Varminterror]

Enjoy your new binoculars when you eventually get through to Nikon.

 

[LoonWulf]

Nikon is out of the scope business, you're on your own. I picked up two 1-4X Nikon Black scopes on 30mm tubes cheap when they were closing out. They have worked fine for me.

In my experience when you get over about 10X you really need a high quality scope, as in one selling in the 4 figure range. You might have better luck on the lower end of the power settings. I've tried to work with some of the $300-$400 scopes that are fine at 6X up to about 10X, but by the time you get to 20X everything was blurry.

A fair portion of my 3-400 dollar optics are x16-20s Havent had any issue getting decent glass in that range yet....

 

[Txhillbilly]

A fair portion of my 3-400 dollar optics are x16-20s Havent had any issue getting decent glass in that range yet....

Then do yourself a favor, and never look through a top tier scope. Once you do, you will only buy high end glass.
I don't think I've bought a sub $1k scope since I bought my first Swarovski Habicht PH 4-16x50 used 15-20 years ago. Just picked up another S&B PMII scope last week for my new rifle build.

 

[LoonWulf]

Then do yourself a favor, and never look through a top tier scope. Once you do, you will only buy high end glass.
I don't think I've bought a sub $1k scope since I bought my first Swarovski Habicht PH 4-16x50 used 15-20 years ago. Just picked up another S&B PMII scope last week for my new rifle build.

The "best" ive owned so far have been a Zeiss Conquest hd5, and a couple of Meopta HTRs. Ive used a number of higher ends, but always buy a new gun instead of one of the more expensive scopes.

I dont seem to have TOO much issue going back to my ok scopes after looking thru the good stuff, mostly because the good stuff cuts too heavily into my tinkering budget I think.

 

[Walkalong]

Then do yourself a favor, and never look through a top tier scope. Once you do

you miss it when using lesser scopes. Same goes for binoculars.

 

[Txhillbilly]

The "best" ive owned so far have been a Zeiss Conquest hd5, and a couple of Meopta HTRs. Ive used a number of higher ends, but always buy a new gun instead of one of the more expensive scopes.

I dont seem to have TOO much issue going back to my ok scopes after looking thru the good stuff, mostly because the good stuff cuts too heavily into my tinkering budget I think.

Build them right from the start, then you don't need to "tinker" with them!

 

[LoonWulf]

Build them right from the start, then you don't need to "tinker" with them!

Those are the ones that get sold first

Ill admit that I enjoy tinkering as much if not more than actually shooting........

 

[Varminterror]

Eh, I don’t see much point in being snobbish about optics. I have several optics which cost over $1500, a few over $3000, and several which cost around $300-500, even with a few under $100. I don’t eat ribeye or softshell crab for either meal either, although I certainly do enjoy both a few times each year - and a few weekends each year I’ll find myself eating McDonald’s quarter pounders and fries...

I have a few lower end FFP optics, they aren’t anything I want to use for competition, but frankly, they’d do fine on 90% of my hunting rifles, and even shooting out to 1200 yards in most light and humidity conditions, they do just fine. There might be more occasions where I can’t resolve an edge of a target or can’t pick out mirage as well, but in relatively non-critical applications, there isn’t much penalty for missing that target, shooting a little looser group, or placing a slightly larger target downrange to accommodate the optics. I have something between 60-70 scoped rifles right now, but luckily for me, I don’t insist on having $245,000 worth of optics on top of them just so I can brag online. I can see and hit as much as I need to with each respective scope in their application for somewhere around $60-70,000 in total. Saving ~$180,000 by not dropping an ATACR on top of my squirrel getting 22LR sure makes a lot of sense to me.

 

[Skylerbone]

Saving ~$180,000 by not dropping an ATACR on top of my squirrel getting 22LR sure makes a lot of sense to me.

If you do we want pictures for sure!

Flexible, I hope your issue is simple and resolvable; if not, I wish you luck with Nikon.

 

[Varminterror]

If you do we want pictures for sure!

I did have to think for a minute about how to word that one, acknowledging that I do have three 22LR’s with $1000-1800 scopes on top, and frankly, I’ll put another Kahles on my RimX once it’s done... so I guess I better never take them squirrel hunting...