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Folding Adaptors for the AR; Experiences

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by berettaprofessor, Feb 16, 2020.

  1. berettaprofessor

    berettaprofessor Member

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    I have a hankering to make one of my AR15 lowers folding. What is your experience with the LAW Industries adapter (https://www.lawtactical.com/ar_folding_stock_adapter_gen_3_m_p/99312.htm)? Are there other decent alternatives? I'm reading about the MDT and DoubleStar folding adaptors but I'm confused as to whether they actually work with a buffer tube AR. And KRISS has a folding adaptor but I believe it only works with the KRISS Vector stocks. I understand none of this will allow more than single shot firing without unfolding the stock.

    Also, if I make an existing pistol AR lower folding, leaving a buffer tube or with a legal brace as the rear part, does the combination break any ATF rules?
     
  2. Rembrandt

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    Put a couple LAW units on AR's, thought they were well designed and performed as advertised. They add more overall length to the gun. It does add a cool factor to the guns capability.

    Rarely use them for their intended purposes....should have identified my need for one before laying out the cash. Doubt I'd do it again, about $400 that could have been put elsewhere.
     
  3. taliv

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    Thanks Taliv, I searched prior to posting but didn’t find the thread you linked nor much else in that regard. I’m hoping others chime in with experience re: the LAW or other options, since the drawbacks seem to be weight added and more difficult takedown.

    Rembrandt; yes, I understand. Hardly practical but that’s not a barrier to a lot of things on AR builds by lots of us. :cool: If I stopped at practical, I wouldn’t have many ARs.:rofl:
     
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  5. DukeConnor

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    My son has a LAW folder. Works perfectly and allows him to keep his AR in a back pack.
     
  6. Schlegel

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    Takedown isn't that bad, i just pull both pins.
    Law Tactical folder works just fine. Watch out if you have a longer stock on, though, because it adds length. The Magpul PRS is almost too long at the shortest. The regular adjustable carbine stock types or any shorter stock should be fine.
     
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    My buddy has a LAW folder on his AR pistol set up - he swears by it.
     
  8. Varminterror

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    I’ve used the LAW, it’s good to go, for what it is.

    Personally, if I were starting over today and considering a folding AR option, I would look exceptionally hard at overhead spring type actions, like the RRA PDS or Brownells BRN-180. Fire folded or extended, no chance of anything entering the action, nor chance of any powder, grease, or otherwise smearing around when folded and stowed. If you’re building a folder, that’s a better mousetrap, in my opinion.
     
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  9. taliv

    taliv Moderator Staff Member

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    also note that the extension you put in the bcg substantially changes the reciprocating weight

    by far the biggest downside is a complicated bolt removal. on most ARs, you just pop the rear pin, angle the receiver up, pull the CH back and out the bcg comes.
    with the LAW, you fold the stock over, just to have access to the extension, which you have to pull out of the BC while pressing a button on the side that retains the bcg (a lot more annoying than it sounds and not very quick). then you close the stock, and do all the normal steps
     
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  10. AK103K

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    I have the LAW folder on my one pistol. They work, but I think the negatives are enough youre better off without one.

    The biggest issue is the side that it folds on and where that hinge is. Especially if youre a "nose to the charging handle" shooter. If you arent paying attention, the hinge wants to bop you right in the mouth when you shoulder the gun quickly and even while shooting. Your teeth could be in some danger there. I've already banged into them pretty hard a couple of times shooting mine.

    The other thing that you really dont see in the pics, is the thickness of the gun when it is folded. It basically doubles that, and thats not a minor thing. Its "fat". You made it shorter, but now, its even bulkier.

    I have a number of different discrete type cases, and I cant get the gun and the chest bag of mags I keep with it, in the cases with the gun folded. "Open", I can get everything and more in, with no problem.

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    Look at where the charging handle is in relation to the hinge, and youll see what Im getting at about your teeth.

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  11. AK103K

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    I usually break mine "sorta" like I would any other AR. You dont "have" to fold it. Just pop the pins and lift the upper, up and out of the lower. Goes back together the same way.

    One thing I have found with the "plug" is if you arent careful removing and replacing it, the "O" rings will get screwed up and their lives shortened. Best to have a few spares. Once they get screwed up, getting the plug back in can be a challenge, or at least, more difficult.
     
  12. taliv

    taliv Moderator Staff Member

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    being left handed, and not shooting nose to CH with aimpoints (i do with irons though), I never thought about the hinge busting your mouth. that would suck.

    i think the idea behind fatter and shorter is to enable backpack carry.

    yep, on a bench, that works. it's harder in the field though because completely separating the upper and lower means you've got your hands full.

    i'm just thinking clearing some types of malfunctions.
     
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    Not as long as you don’t have a stock on it at the same time you have a sub-16” barreled upper on it.
     
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