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Maybe get some good body armor.
And, well, get yourself to a good church. This sounds like you might want to go there ASAP.
 
Ok the reason I declined to file charges is that they didnt have him in custody & while standing on the side of the road I was not thinking to clearly. In my head I'm thinking whats the point you don't have him. I barely know his name if that is his name, don't know where he lives what he drives except red car. His brothers (guy that assualted me) info does not show any relevant info such as address which is dumb because he just got out of prision on early release. So its like I'm up a creek without a paddle.
 
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almostkilled said:
Why thank you. I filed charges on assualt this was a sort of retaliation read all of my post.
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I =did= read all your post. These dudes want you DEAD.

How much "madder" do you think you can make them? By not being willing to file charges, you ditching the only allies you have in this.

Either take/make a stand, or move ... as in far far away.
 
What? Are you for real?
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Whoops, I hadn't actually checked the site, just heard about it. I thought it was a church locater thing. It appears they are just asking for donations, so I will remove the link.

Just pointing out, there's a very good likelyhood of you getting hurt or killed. Get all your stuff in order, a will written out, etc.

And body armor should stop most handgun rounds and buckshot, which it seems likely they will be using.
 
Ok the reason I declined to file charges is that they didnt have him in custody & while standing on the side of the road I was not thinking to clearly. In my head I'm thinking whats the point you don't have him. I barely know his name if that is his name, don't know where he lives what he drives except red car. His brothers (guy that assualted me) info does not show any relevant info such as address which is dumb because he just got out of prision on early release. So its like I'm up a sh*t creek without a paddle.
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But the brother would know where he was. You do know the brother's name so figuring out his name if it is his brother would not have been difficult for you or the police (who can likely bring up a reference to known family really quickly.)
The parole/probation officer should know where he stays and the police with such information could go check on whatever residence they knew about, and keep a look out for the vehicle, especialy if it is his vehicle or the person's he is staying with (which could all be figured out on the police computer.)
If he arrived in a truck with another person with a shotgun that had just been fired it would have also been a great help.
The police do not have the time to play detective with poor information. You give good information and they might be able to actualy run across the individual while there is still something incriminating.
Be honest, because if things don't add up your credibility goes out the window and the police are less likely to go out of thier way to do what they can.

That choice to not do anything or file any charges because you didn't "know" anything made you seem like someone that does not really want help, or someone not telling the truth. You knew enough for the police to figure out all the information you did not know.
Seriously, if you know someone is another person's brother, and you know who the brother is, then figuring out who that person is takes all of a few minutes.
Your girlfriend should also have known who he was.
All the chips were on the table and information was there (even the parts you didn't know) and you dropped the ball.
 
I am sorry for your trouble. You have asked for advice, so here it comes:

You need to start reporting any offenses committed against you, and threats to your well being.
You need to stop hanging around with inmates, ex-inmates, their girlfriends, and hangers-on.
You need to move, and not provide an address or cell phone number or other means of contact to any of the criminals or their associates.
You need to chalk this experience up to a stunning lack of maturity and judgement and get beyond it, or you will find yourself charged with assault or murder. You don't mention if you have a CCW. Reading between the lines in your post, it seems that carrying a gun to protect yourself is a huge risk, because you don't seem to have the will to stay away from the proximate cause of your dilemma or the maturity and courage to defend yourself sensibly.

My two cents,

Good luck to you.
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I'm not going to say that the attacks are your fault (it's the fault of the crazy ex-con), so subtract all the judgement from that post and I think you've got pretty good advice Mr OP, the ball is in your court...Do what you need to do to stay out of harms way. I said stay out of it's way. You're not going to be able to defeat all the people involved in a gunfight, and the law is not likely to be of much help...
 
I agree with 19-3Ben.

At least, you may not have to move to another country. Maybe they will all be as relieved as you would be to know that the "fight" is off.
 
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So this is what happened to chivalry *sigh* The poor girl is probably trying to get out of the lifestyle as well. Why not join the army? That's another option to consider.
 


Filing a complaint every time is to your advantage. If you are finally forced to use force/deadly force there's a paper trail for the DA and grand jury to follow.

Being silent only encourages those making the threats. They feel empowered by your fear. FWIW, I gotten out of several tight spots when threats were made with a "Bring it on," attitude.

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Get rid of the GF you don't need that kind of grief. i went thru a similar situation 30+ years ago In all honesty it's better to be a live chicken than a dead duck
 
So this is what happened to chivalry *sigh* The poor girl is probably trying to get out of the lifestyle as well. Why not join the army? That's another option to consider.
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Chivalry? What about self preservation, they shot at him. Take the girl w/ you if you have to, but I'm not going to live in a city where a bunch of people are going to take pot shots at me... or my lady..
 
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Nothing that you can legally own and fire from the shoulder will stop a car.
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Yes, but his sidearm is perfectly capable of killing the driver or the shooter. Or for that matter, the innocent bystanders in the building across the road. :p

Shooting out the window glass and putting bullet holes in the door will seriously inconvenience the vehicle's owner. They'll have to hide the car until they patch it up themselves, and unless they replace the door and recover any projos that made it into the interior it'll be evidence. Evidence that it was shot at by the OP's gun, and that can go either way - more likely a better way if the OP immediately reports it!

FWIW it's a felony in my state to shoot at or from a vehicle. Hopefully extenuating circumstances will help.

Don't forget running into their vehicle with yours also causes damage. Their failure to stop and report the accident (if the damage is significant) is also illegal. If you get them to stop in a public area, you have a better situation. If you have better aim and training to offset their lack of same and better firepower, you may have an advantage. If the cops eventually show up, you've got plenty of evidence one of them shot at you.

You should keep the law on your side and use it to your advantage. Your opponents might have trouble doing the same. If they are so well connected to a corrupt or incompetent police force that you can't let the law work for you, then you *really* need to get out of town! Fighting on their own terms of violence and lawlessness will be much tougher.

Finally, you should keep an open mind that your GF may be an informant. Some people are really screwed up, even if they manage to pass for normal. Some folks get their kicks from instigating and perpetuating conflict. Those people sometimes end up in relationships with criminals, either by seeking them out, or causing their mate to become a crminal. Don't let her make *you* a criminal...
 
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Yes, but his sidearm is perfectly capable of killing the driver or the shooter. Or for that matter, the innocent bystanders in the building across the road.

Shooting out the window glass and putting bullet holes in the door will seriously inconvenience the vehicle's owner. They'll have to hide the car until they patch it up themselves, and unless they replace the door and recover any projos that made it into the interior it'll be evidence.
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The problem with that is, that it's pretty hard to shoot and drive, no matter how many times you saw Robert Deniro do it in HEAT. There is no script to help you engage a moving target from a moving vehicle through glass and sheet metal. I just don't see it as a viable tactic. You're asking the op to control a speeding 2500 pound vehicle, in traffic and engage another speeding vehicle. I think it's a much better plan to drive and save the firearm for when you can no longer drive.

Jeff
 
Going along with what Jeff White said at the end, the girl (woman, lady?) may get off on seeing men fighting over her.:p
 
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Dump the girl and tell her she belongs to the guy in jail and she should wait for him to get out.

When word gets around, those bad guys might actually be giving you the high five, instead of the "five under."
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Right, just like all those women raped and murdered by ex-boyfriends derserved it. How dare they forget who they belonged to. Like they're allowed to try to clean up their lives and avoid past mistakes.
 
Don't argue with me, I'm only trying to help the original poster.

If the people this girl hangs out with are criminals and felons, the OP can't change her.

Is he supposed to be her Knight in Shining Armor?

He has a life to live as well. She can choose to get out of town just like he might have to do -- apparently on account of HER.

She sounds old enough to be able to choose with whom she wants to hang out.

Also, who mentioned "all those other women raped and murdered by ex-boyfriends?" And, who said anyone "DESERVED IT?" I would not suggest for a minute that anyone "deserves" the treatment the OP has endured. Some people just cling to that kind of a relationship because that may be all they know. Again, is it the OP's job to change her? I say not. Your argument makes no sense.

This whole thread is turning into something not relating to guns at all, but rather RELATIONSHIPS.
 
This sounds really similar to a thread posted about a week or so ago, about a guy trapped in a non-disclosed Mediterranean country where the locals were harassing him and the poster's wife didn't want to leave.

Maybe coincidence, maybe the same poster with some obscure agenda. Doesn't matter. The advice I would give here is the same as the advice I gave to the other fellow:

Run far away. Take the girlfriend along if she'll go. If she won't, well, I'd say that means she doesn't care if you get dead. Since presumably you do care, get out. Don't get into a fight you can't win, or a fight that even if you "won" would end with you in prison. Run away. Flee. It ain't pleasant advice to give or receive, but it's better than death or prison.
 
And who's to say GF might have her "buddies" tag along to the next city they move to. Some people just thrive on creating havoc in people's lives.
 
I agree, this thread sounds very similar in nature to the "Mediterranean incident."

I also agree with what you and others have said. Now the OP can do what is suggested, or do whatever.

Where's the original poster?

Heeellllooooo?
 
The problem with that is, that it's pretty hard to shoot and drive, no matter how many times you saw Robert Deniro do it in HEAT.
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:) Having never fired from a moving car, I'm still going to agree with you 100%! Especially if you've never done it before, and under combat stress!

FWIW, if you discharge a centerfire gun in a vehicle, you (and any passengers) are almost certainly going to immediately become at least temporarily deaf. That's where a silencer could be really handy. But perhaps a legal obstacle to explain after the fact if it becomes known...

There is no script to help you engage a moving target from a moving vehicle through glass and sheet metal. I just don't see it as a viable tactic. You're asking the op to control a speeding 2500 pound vehicle, in traffic and engage another speeding vehicle. I think it's a much better plan to drive and save the firearm for when you can no longer drive.
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Although difficult, I think it's certainly possible to at least hit the other car *somewhere*. And there is such a thing as suppressing fire.

The *really* tricky thing would be to be sure of your backstop as you sped down the road. But if driving alone doesn't solve your problem, and it seems like you can't stop in a way that will improve your odds, then it might be a better choice than being in a moving vehicle that's taking fire and not returning any.

Learn the PIT Maneuver!
 
I'm not saying you did anything wrong, but do you live the kind of lifestyle in which this kind of drama is sort of commonplace? Are you an accountant who lives in the burbs and goes to church every Sunday? I'm guessing not. I'm not saying you don't have the right to live any kind of (legal) lifestyle you choose, but choices do have consequences.

I have no idea of the best way for you to proceed except to be armed and alert at all times.

Good luck.

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