For all the Sailors and Marines out there...

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Old NFO

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THE SEABAG........

There was a time when everything you owned had to fit in your seabag. Remember those nasty rascals? Fully packed, one of the suckers weighed more than the poor devil hauling it. The damn things weighed a ton and some idiot with an off-center sense of humor sewed a carry handle on it to help you haul it. Hell, you could bolt a handle on a Greyhound bus but it wouldn't make the damn thing portable.

The Army, Marines and Air Force got footlockers and we got a big ole' canvas bag. After you warped your spine jackassing the goofy thing through a bus or train station, sat on it waiting for connecting transportation and made folks mad because it was too goddam big to fit in any overhead rack on any bus, train and airplane ever made, the contents looked like hell.

All your gear appeared to have come from bums who slept on park benches. Traveling with a seabag was something left over from the "Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum" sailing ship days. Sailors used to sleep in hammocks. So you stowed your issue in a big canvas bag and lashed your hammock to it, hoisted it on your shoulder and in effect moved your entire home and complete inventory of earthly possessions from ship to ship. I wouldn't say you traveled light because with one strap it was a one-shoulder load that could torque your skeletal frame and bust your ankles. It was like hauling a dead linebacker.

They wasted a lot of time in boot camp telling you how to pack one of the suckers. There was an officially sanctioned method of organization that you forgot after ten minutes on the other side of the gate at Great Lakes or San Diego. You got rid of a lot of issue gear when you went to the SHIP..

Did you ever know a tin-can sailor who had a raincoat? A flat hat? One of those nut hugger knit swimsuits? How bout those roll your own neckerchiefs... The ones the girls in a good Naval tailor shop would cut down and sew into a 'greasy snake' for two bucks? Within six months, every fleet sailor was down to one set of dress blues, port and starboard undress blues and whites, a couple of whitehats, boots, shoes, assorted skivvies a peacoat and three sets of bleached out dungarees.

The rest of your original issue was either in the pea coat locker, lucky bag or had been reduced to wipe down rags in the engineroom. Underway ships were not ships that allowed vast accumulation of private gear. Hobos who lived in discarded refrigerator crates could amass greater loads of pack rat crap than fleetsailors. The confines of a canvas back rack, side locker and a couple of bunk bags did not allow one to live a Donald Trump existence. Space and the going pay scale combined to make us envy the lifestyle of a mud hut Ethiopian.

We were the global equivalents of nomadic Mongols without ponies to haul our stuff. And after the rigid routine of boot camp we learned the skill of random compression packing... Known by mother's world-wide as 'cramming'. It is amazing what you can jam into a space no bigger than a breadbox if you pull a watch cap over a boot and push it in with your foot. Of course it looks kinda weird when you pull it out but they never hold fashion shows at sea and wrinkles added character to a salty appearance. There was a four-hundred mile gap between the images on recruiting posters and the actual appearance of sailors at sea. It was not without justifiable reason that we were called the tin-can Navy.

We operated on the premise that if 'Cleanliness was next to Godliness', we must be next to the other end of that spectrum... We looked like our clothing had been pressed with a waffle iron and packed by a bulldozer. But what in the hell did they expect from a bunch of jerks that lived in the crews hole of a 2250 Sumner Class can. After a while you got used to it... You got used to everything you owned picking up and retraining that distinctive aroma... You got used to old ladies on busses taking a
couple of wrinkled nose sniffs of your peacoat then getting up and finding another seat...

Do they still issue seabags? Can you still make five bucks sitting up half the night drawing a ships picture on the side of one of the damn things with black and white marking pens that drive old master-at-arms into a 'rig for heart attack' frenzy? Make their faces red... The veins on their neck bulge out... And yell,"Jeezus H. Christ! What in god's name is that all over your seabag?"
"Artwork, Chief... It's like the work of Michelangelo... My ship...
Great huh?"
"Looks like some gahdam comic book..."
Here was a man with cobras tattooed on his arms... A skull with a dagger
through one eye and a ribbon reading 'DEATH BEFORE SHORE DUTY' on his
shoulder... Crossed anchors with 'Subic Bay 1945' on the other
shoulder... An eagle on his chest and a full blown Chinese dragon peeking out between the cheeks of his butt. If anyone was an authority on stuff that looked like a comic book, it had to be this E-8 sucker.
Sometimes I look at all the crap stacked in my garage, close my eyes and smile, remembering a time when everything I owned could be crammed into a canvas bag.

Maturity is hell.

Why did I post this? Because I found mine a couple of weeks ago back in the very back of a basement closet. Way down in the bottom of it, under a pair of undress whites (was I REALLY that skinny????:uhoh: ) I found four rusty stripper clips from the M-1 :what: My best guess is that I must have stuffed them in my peacoat pocket when we were policing up the range when we qualified in Boot Camp in 1970 and I never cleaned out the seabag or threw them away....
 
lol i remeber being able to stuff every thing i own in my sea bag! Once before a deployment they made us get living wills and a normal will provided by base legal and she was like what kind of stuff do you have.. well i everything i have is in my barricks room and my biggest item is my computer... lol it was nice being able to move everything you own in a sea bag and 2 20x20's.

(im P3 Navy):rolleyes:

'DEATH BEFORE SHORE DUTY'
ROFL i want to get that tatto now lol
 
Great story, my grandfather was in the Navy during the Korean War, and I remember him showing me his photos from his time in and telling me all kinds of great stories. Of course I repay him everytime I go visit him by telling him stories of my various deployments and all that. From a Ground pounder to a Squid, Thank You.
 
Never served, but I do have to say nothing beats a seabag as far as luggage goes. I bought mine freshman year of college from a surplus store, I could literally fit every piece of clothing I owned in it to take home to do laundry.
 
ahh, yes! the seabag... i recall fitting all of my earthly posessions into it. when i got out of the navy, i was still able to fit everything i owned into it. nothing that didn't fit in there went w/ me...

simple times... didn't care for desert storm much, but i do miss those days sometimes.
 
Poor sailors. Us Marines had the luxury of an ALICE pack in addition to our seabag. If anyone can figure out how I used to be able to fit all my deuce gear, a gas mask carrier, flak jacket, helmet, two pairs of boots (desert and jungle), mosquito netting (WHY did we EVER get that?), shelter half, poles, lines, pegs, desert pack cover, desert flak cover, desert helmet cover, and a rubber b**ch into that thing, let me know. Literally 10 pounds of "stuff" in a 5 pound bag. I'm fairly sure some important laws of physics were broken.

Great post, Old NFO, I miss the days when everything I owned that didn't go on float went into the toolbox of my truck and got parked on Mainside. :cool:

S/F

Farnham
 
Ahhhh...the "Seabag Drag"!

I made it from boot camp to ITR to NAS Memphis back to SDiego for "C" School then "A" School and on to my first PDS @ CamPen...still able to transport all my wordly possessions in a seabag and an AWOL bag.

First trip "Grey and Underway" I was on the gravey train. I was TAD to the Blue Ridge for 6 months. 12 Marines had a 30 man compartment all to ourselves so we were kinda spread out and everybody had plenty of locker space. The only "bad" thing was that we were in the very lowest compartment on the ship and the cold air from the AC tended to settle down in our area. The temp never got much above 65* or so, but hey...you can always pile on more blankets! Better than sweating your butt off like we did on the gator tubs like the Anchorage, Juneau, or (OMG) the Barbour County.
 
The memories....but the odor encountered was the wonderful smell of being locked in a submarine for 60 odd days....now that is a smell! :)
 
Hey, Moondoggie, I was on the Blue Ridge for an exercise when I was on Okinawa.

You ain't lyin about that A/C, I seem to remember they put extra A/C on the thing to cool all the computers, and then forgot what they were doing, so they routed the ductwork straight down to Marine berthing. I slept in my poncho liner and shivered until we hit Korea and I scored a mink blanket. At least it had working showers.

S/F

Farnham
 
I stilll have my fathers USN seabag with his complete issue of uniforms, funny money (japan), letters, black book of lady names and an huge cloth Eagle Globe & Anchor. USN 1949-1953.

I still have my complete seabag issue from the corps including skivees, tee-shirts, socks, boots. I used these items since I was always tagged for the IG wall locker and junk on the bunk inspections. USMC 1977-1981. I remember dragging all this crap around.

Thanks for the memories...........
 
At some point in the late 70's the Navy took to putting TWO shoulder starps on them so it could be worn like a back pack. The last swap I made before getting out was with a guy who wanted mine because it only had the one strap and considered to be the "cooler" of the 2 designs. I didn't care because I had a lot of crap to cram in there and haul around so I was liking the two strap model. I still have that bag with my Buds name and ssn stenciled on there. The only other piece of issue I still have is what USED to be my oversized peacoat with PEWTER buttons. Now all it's good for is the fat guy in a little coat routine. For some reason I just can't bear to part with it.

:D
 
Memories are a great thing. I still have my original with "Hatian Vacation 92 tour GITMO" wrote on it that a Master Chief chewed my butt for writing on it. Up until I got Married I could fit everything I owned in it from boot camp to "A" school, to Camp Pendelton to the USS Peleliu, after that the Navy moved me.

Simplier times, where did they go?
 
I can't say my memories of seabags are good.

I had to run a mile with mine fully loaded on my shoulders during bootcamp as punishment fro forgetting to lock it one night. I completed that mile so quickly and easily that they called me a liar and made me do it again. I was pretty hot but it was from being called a liar, not the run. When I reported as complete the second time I whipped the bag down to my side in a defiant motion. Meanwhile a sewing kit in the bag's pocket had a needle work it's way halfway through the canvas and that raked me across the whole back of my neck. Flame on! I didn't tell them it happened but the look on my face must have been priceless. I'd still be in the brig if they had not instantly dismissed me to the showers.

That bag didn't last long. A few days after we got underway on the first tour I went to the chain locker to get something out of my bag and the room was a 3 foot deep pile of cloth. Took me a while to figure out what I was looking at. Somebody had actually cut open and spilled the contents of every bag onto the deck. I got out of there in a hurry! Getting blamed for that would have been the perfect icing on the cake for my military experience. Still wonder what they could have been looking for? Stenciled skivies aint worth much :D
 
I went in in '56, went to Boot Camp in Bainbridge, Maryland, and made a career out of it, and fondly remember my Flathat. Mine looked great and was so neat - you could flatten it and stow it under your jumper, never had to worry where to put it, after all, our 13 button trousers and jumpers had so much stowage space (Two small pockets) - I still often stick my hands straight down in my waistband rather than in my Air Force Gloves (Pockets.) For those who don't know - we didn't have any pockets that we could fit our hands in even if it was permitted. I still have my flathat and it still looks smart. I kept my full sized silk neckerchief but had it so limber and double rolled that it looked better than those "Tailor Mades." It was hard to roll three ball bearings in the center of a Tailor Made Neckerchief. I did have "Seafarer, tailor made uniforms though. Your comb went in the shoe lace in the center of your back and smokes in your socks. Wallet folded in half and hooked over the waistband. As for my seabag, I could pack mine as tight as a frozen sausage which made it infinitely easier to carry than those floppy ones the lazy guys tried to wrassle around. When hard they made great seats in train/plane/bus stations - and as mentioned, functioned as a premier "Wrinkle Machine". On the other hand, at $96 a month, who could afford public transportation. What little money I got when I signed my pay chit, put my fingerprint on it and cleaned out what I had riding "On the Books," went for wine, women and song. The primary mode of travel for us Bluejackets was BMT (By My Thumb). Ahh yes, the "Canvas Back Racks" - (Really a refined Hammock}, 6 feet long, 2 feet wide and 18 inches between you and the guy above. Whenever you rolled over, you dug him in the back with your shoulder and you got it from the guy below you. However they did have one saving grace, after a while they would form fit themselves to your body. OH yes - the lashings, they were great for scratching athletes feet. If your berthing space was below the waterline, the poor guy on the bottom rack would occasionally get an unpleasant surprise. I remember a time when we awoke to a flooded compartment and there were shoes and boondockers cruising merrily all over the place as the ship pitched and rolled, the bottom racks were soaked. Someone had forgotten to un-secure the overboard sewer lines when we got underway, and mixed in with the assorted footwear was the occasional "Brown Trout." Ahhhhhhhhhhh yes, those were the days, you landlubbers didn't know what you were missing.
 
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