For those who say Fred Thompson is anti-gun

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The only reason Fred is even hovering around without jumping into the fray, is in case "their" top lackeys, Rudolph and McCain, get knocked out for one reason or another.
 
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When I look at Thompson, I hear him saying, " look at this Buick right here! It's got just 5,000 miles on the odometer, little ol' lady only took it out of the garage on Sundays, it's a real beauty! What?! Paint doesn't match on the fender? I think that must be a trick of the light, this car is good as new. No, that oil stain there, is from another car, we moved them around this morning...."
Then you take a look at the stuff he's voted for against the instructions of the Constitution.....
I wouldn't buy a used car from him, I don't want him as my president.
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OMG THATS IT!!:D
 
Don't complain when Billary or Osama cram gun control down our throats, Thompson would be far less of a threat when it comes down to that. How could anyone just "accept" a Hillary or Obama presidency? Good god!

If either one of those two get in, kiss your guns bye-bye. Taxes will go up 30%, socialized medicine, nanny state govt to the extreme. Enjoy!

Me, I'll take Fred Thompson over that alternative.

I have a hard time grasping the concept of "I don't like any of the GOP candidates, so I'll just sit it out and give the white house to Osama or Billary. Great strategy.
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Boy this is the same old song and dance.

People who call themselves conservative better take a long hard look in the mirror.

do you want socialism-lite
or do you want a guy with the best damn pro-gun record ever, the best damn Limited Govt record ever ...etc.(oh yeah and HE IS RUNNING)
 
Okay... I'm now thoroughly confused...

aren't we all. (wait till they tell you the GOP stands for limited Govt, legal immigration and Pro-gun)
Bush McCain Romney and Guliani and Fred are not conservatives
There is there a fight for 2008
and GOP has a massive divide and there also is a fight for the party's soul.

interesting times
 
My choice is Ron Paul. If Ron Paul does not make it past the primaries, then I will be voting for the Libertarian Party candidate.

Same, I am voting my consious, not what is politically expedient, I dont care if its idealist.
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I'm done with the lesser of two evils crap, too. If Ron is not on the ticket, it's Libertarian for this guy. I'm sick of the same 'ole crap with a different label.
All you folks afraid of Obama and Clinton, what are you just gonna do? Go turn in yer guns down at the courthouse the day after the election, or will you wait until January?

Soakers, baiting.

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I am a shooter, and weapons owner. I have not been at any "shoots" for over six years because I am now quite occupied with raising my children.
Children, ah yes, another fair reason to keep control of the coutry where it belongs.....
IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE.
 
Interesting thing is, someone told me recently that if you apply a little progressive game theory to the notion of voting for the lesser of two evils and winning; you will almost always end up incrementally worse than if you vote your conscience and lose because the political trends shift with voting trends, and if people continue to vote for crap-lite instead of what they really want to vote for, you'll just keeping getting crap, a little heavier each time until finally, the giant mound of crap is too big a burden to bear and you suffocate from underneath it.

Once a party loses due to a significant shift in voting for a third party, they will, as is the natural order of politics these days, shift towards that third party's platform in order to regain those votes and hopefully pick up some new ones along the way. Left unchecked and being continuously supported simply because of party-line voters, each party will continue along a path that grants them more power and less liberty for the common person.
 
Once a party loses due to a significant shift in voting for a third party, they will, as is the natural order of politics these days, shift towards that third party's platform in order to regain those votes and hopefully pick up some new ones along the way. Left unchecked and being continuously supported simply because of party-line voters, each party will continue along a path that grants them more power and less liberty for the common person.
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agree completely
try telling that to neo-cons
 
TennTucker said,
3/4 of these Ron Paul supporters.
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want to get a Democrat in office.


Dude, a little critical thinking would reveal that we want Ron Paul to get in office. Good God man, do you actually think the Republicans are doing good things for the country?

Tell me what you do not like about Ron Pauls stance on gun rights or the Constitution in general?

As to whether or not I own guns, what relevance does that have to do with who I would like to see as president.

If you are ever near Pittsburgh, Pm me and we'll go shooting. Just keep your ridiculous accusations to yourself.

By the way, I just registered republican, was Libertarian, so that I could vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.

If Ron Paul does not get the republican nomination, I'm voting for hilary.

It is time to get it on and get it over with one way or another.

No matter if it is a Democrat or republican in office, this country is going to in the crapper, all they care about is money and power and the New World Order.

Call me names if it makes you feel better, but it is my vote to do as I please.

If a Democrat gets in and bans guns, I promise, that you won't have to wait long for someone to start it. I think a lot of people are at the breaking point now and it won't take much to put the 2nd Amendment to it's true use.

I have drawn my line in the sand as far as what freedoms I'll allow the gov to usurp. Let's say it's a mighty fine line at this point.
 
Don't complain when Billary or Osama cram gun control down our throats, Thompson would be far less of a threat when it comes down to that. How could anyone just "accept" a Hillary or Obama presidency? Good god!

If either one of those two get in, kiss your guns bye-bye. Taxes will go up 30%, socialized medicine, nanny state govt to the extreme. Enjoy!

Me, I'll take Fred Thompson over that alternative.

I have a hard time grasping the concept of "I don't like any of the GOP candidates, so I'll just sit it out and give the white house to Osama or Billary. Great strategy.
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Ron Paul's a great guy and all, but so was Ross Perot. Bill Clinton couldn't have asked for better help.
 
Ron Paul's a great guy and all, but so was Ross Perot. Bill Clinton couldn't have asked for better help.
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Do you not understand how the political process works?

Ron Paul is running for the Republican nomination... not as a third party candidate like Perot. There is no way a vote for Paul will help the Democrat. It is silly at best, and an outright lie at worst, for people to keep implying that.
 
There is no way a vote for Paul will help the Democrat.
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No?

Look, bud, no matter what we here on THR or who vote in GOP primaries think, I think there are a lot of independents and a heck of a lot of Dems who want the WH to move LEFTward, not rightward.

There are also a lot of middle-roaders and even right-wingers who consider Ron Paul a nut. A nut with good ideas, yes, whose heart is in the right place, sure, and who probably has the Constitution printed on his wallpaper (for all I know) – but still a nut.

Most importantly, an unelectable nut.

Do you not understand how the political process works?
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Yes, I understand it just fine. Remember 1964, Mister Barone?
 
No?

Look, bud, no matter what we here on THR or who vote in GOP primaries think, I think there are a lot of independents and a heck of a lot of Dems who want the WH to move LEFTward, not rightward.

There are also a lot of middle-roaders and even right-wingers who consider Ron Paul a nut. A nut with good ideas, yes, whose heart is in the right place, sure, and who probably has the Constitution printed on his wallpaper (for all I know) – but still a nut.

Most importantly, an unelectable nut.
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I still don't understand how voting for Dr. Paul in the primaries, hands the White House to the Democrats.
but still a nut.
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Which of Dr. Paul's positions do you find nutty?
 
Look, bud, no matter what we here on THR or who vote in GOP primaries think, I think there are a lot of independents and a heck of a lot of Dems who want the WH to move LEFTward, not rightward.

There are also a lot of middle-roaders and even right-wingers who consider Ron Paul a nut. A nut with good ideas, yes, whose heart is in the right place, sure, and who probably has the Constitution printed on his wallpaper (for all I know) – but still a nut.

Most importantly, an unelectable nut.


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Do you not understand how the political process works?

Yes, I understand it just fine. Remember 1964, Mister Barone?
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What is your point? If Paul gets buried in the primary you still have your establishment Republican to go up against Obama/Hillary.

Are you saying the Republicans should not have nomitated Goldwater in 1964?
Most conservatives feel that even though he got killed by LBJ it marked the start of the modern conservative movement and ultimately made Reagan possible.

You would have preffered liberal Rockefeller in 1964 instead? He would have been trounced by LBJ as well and there would have been absolutely no upside.



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