Does anyone know of a stock maker or anyone that makes or sells a forearm for the Model 1910? I e-mailed Niemrich, Boyds, and others and no luck...Mine was split and missing a chunk when I bought it, and want to get into shooting shape. Also need dies for it, would like to trade a new set of CH 351 Winchester dies. Would like to get this puppy a shooting machine instead of a Safe Queen!!!
Forearm for my Winchester 1910???
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Bummer. If Numrich et al don't happen to have one, you might be somewhat SOL.
The Winchester M-1910, that'd be the blowback semi-auto chambered for the .401 Winchester Self-Loading cartridge, yes? Brother to the M-'05/.32 WSL and the M-'07/.351 WSL rifles? Got that funky "pushbutton" cocking piece poking out of the front of the Schnabel-tipped fore-end. A neat gun, if a little funny looking, and chambered for what has to be the upper limit of blow-back ballistics. The only one of the WSL clan to really have enough "oomph" for realistic hunting, the blow-back operation made for stout-ish recoil and also required a bolt so heavy the rifle started to get ungainly, weight-wise.
In competition with Remington's long-recoil/locked-breech Model 8, (First introduced in 1906.) it lost out to the Remington's ability to handle higher-powered rounds like the Remington Rimless series and the .300 Savage. (I even have heard of a few prototype-class M-8's chambered for .308 Winchester! However, nothing came of that as the Remington M-8/M-81 went out of production after WW-II because the elegant-but-complex, all-machined-parts, Browning-designed long-recoil action was too expensive to produce, but it serves to illustrate how the design didn't have the power restrictions imposed by the Winchester's blow-back action.) Ultimately, blow-back rifles proved to be an evolutionary dead-end, and the winner of the First Generation Commercial Autoloading Rifle Success Story goes to Remington with a rifle design that enjoyed a 40+ year production run.
Due to the neccessity of a rather large bolt mass to accomodate the fairly powerful ballistics of the .401 WSL, Winchester put a beefy chunk of steel reciprocating within the fore-end, out front of the receiver and under the barrel in order to keep the bolt itself from becoming huge and making for a gigantic receiver. That makes for a substantialy hollow fore-end with somewhat thin sides, I would surmise, but I've never looked at one closely.
Since you have an example in hand, albeit somewhat damaged, and the rifle doesn't bed the barrel in the stock in the usual sense, you might consider taking the fore-end to a local high-end custom cabinet shop for duplication. When I worked at such a shop, every so often we'd get folks who'd come in with some bit of non-cabinetry-related woodworking that needed the expertise and precision we could offer. Fine furniture repair, custom mounts for guns, sculptures, stuffed game heads and racks, pedestals for model boats or various trophies/awards and objets-d'art, I saw all sorts of things that needed making from high-quality woods that weren't boxes with doors, shelves, and countertops destined to live in someone's kitchen or office.
Not to say that this is a guaranteed solution, but if you can't locate a stockmaker who'll fabricate what you need, someone who makes fine furniture will have the skills and tools neccessary to make you a new fore-end, particularly since you have an exact example of what you need available to measure. Hopefully the cost wouldn't be too outrageous on a "time-&-materials" basis, as I expect duplicating a fore-end is a bit far-out of the usual line of a woodworking shop to provide an estimate on.
I would suggest digging in the yellow pages and making a few phone calls in order to establish who might be interested in taking on such a project, and how much of a delay or lead-time is involved. Some places will turn it down flat as outside their usual line, but if I know professional woodworkers, (And I'm one of 'em.) there's probably someone who'll find it an interesting challenge and tell you bring your piece by to take a look at it. This may prove fruitless in the end, but it doesn't cost much to make a few inquiries, and you might not have to send your broken stock off to who-knows-where to get it re-made sight-unseen on a leap of faith.
(Grumble.) Heck, if I had a decent shop-space of my own, I'd offer to do it myself. I've been working in wood for 15 years now, and I like to think I'm pretty good at it. Wouldn't charge a cent for it either, as I'd love to help out a fellow THR member get a fine old obscure gun like a Winchester M-1910 up and running. (I've actually done this before.) Unfortunately, I'm currently unemployed, all of my tools are buried in storage, and I have no workspace. Doing silly unrelated-to-my-line-of-work side projects are keeping me in beer 'n skittles, but the economy needs to get hopping a bit more before I can be able to rent my own space again. Nertz.
That being said, if the local shops can't help you, you might do some digging on stock-making, wood-carving and wood-working using your favorite search engine. There's a LOT of wood-working sites, and I imagine there's got to be a stock-maker or two with a website.
Another place to check is in The Shotgun News. There's usually ads for stock-makers to be found there, and once again, inquiries are cheap to make. That's presuming no-one here on THR chimes in with a recommendation.
Dies are certainly available new from the likes of Huntington, (And I believe Starline has new brass.) but that doesn't help your trade prospects. My idea of a perfect solution in that regard is to go get yourself a Winchester M-1907 rifle to go with 'em. Any excuse to get more guns, I always say.
Sorry I couldn't be more help. If you get really desperate, post or PM or e-mail me a pic of your fore-end, (particularly the inside and inletting.) and I'll see if I can figure something out. At least it wouldn't cost anything.
The Winchester M-1910, that'd be the blowback semi-auto chambered for the .401 Winchester Self-Loading cartridge, yes? Brother to the M-'05/.32 WSL and the M-'07/.351 WSL rifles? Got that funky "pushbutton" cocking piece poking out of the front of the Schnabel-tipped fore-end. A neat gun, if a little funny looking, and chambered for what has to be the upper limit of blow-back ballistics. The only one of the WSL clan to really have enough "oomph" for realistic hunting, the blow-back operation made for stout-ish recoil and also required a bolt so heavy the rifle started to get ungainly, weight-wise.
In competition with Remington's long-recoil/locked-breech Model 8, (First introduced in 1906.) it lost out to the Remington's ability to handle higher-powered rounds like the Remington Rimless series and the .300 Savage. (I even have heard of a few prototype-class M-8's chambered for .308 Winchester! However, nothing came of that as the Remington M-8/M-81 went out of production after WW-II because the elegant-but-complex, all-machined-parts, Browning-designed long-recoil action was too expensive to produce, but it serves to illustrate how the design didn't have the power restrictions imposed by the Winchester's blow-back action.) Ultimately, blow-back rifles proved to be an evolutionary dead-end, and the winner of the First Generation Commercial Autoloading Rifle Success Story goes to Remington with a rifle design that enjoyed a 40+ year production run.
Due to the neccessity of a rather large bolt mass to accomodate the fairly powerful ballistics of the .401 WSL, Winchester put a beefy chunk of steel reciprocating within the fore-end, out front of the receiver and under the barrel in order to keep the bolt itself from becoming huge and making for a gigantic receiver. That makes for a substantialy hollow fore-end with somewhat thin sides, I would surmise, but I've never looked at one closely.
Since you have an example in hand, albeit somewhat damaged, and the rifle doesn't bed the barrel in the stock in the usual sense, you might consider taking the fore-end to a local high-end custom cabinet shop for duplication. When I worked at such a shop, every so often we'd get folks who'd come in with some bit of non-cabinetry-related woodworking that needed the expertise and precision we could offer. Fine furniture repair, custom mounts for guns, sculptures, stuffed game heads and racks, pedestals for model boats or various trophies/awards and objets-d'art, I saw all sorts of things that needed making from high-quality woods that weren't boxes with doors, shelves, and countertops destined to live in someone's kitchen or office.
Not to say that this is a guaranteed solution, but if you can't locate a stockmaker who'll fabricate what you need, someone who makes fine furniture will have the skills and tools neccessary to make you a new fore-end, particularly since you have an exact example of what you need available to measure. Hopefully the cost wouldn't be too outrageous on a "time-&-materials" basis, as I expect duplicating a fore-end is a bit far-out of the usual line of a woodworking shop to provide an estimate on.
I would suggest digging in the yellow pages and making a few phone calls in order to establish who might be interested in taking on such a project, and how much of a delay or lead-time is involved. Some places will turn it down flat as outside their usual line, but if I know professional woodworkers, (And I'm one of 'em.) there's probably someone who'll find it an interesting challenge and tell you bring your piece by to take a look at it. This may prove fruitless in the end, but it doesn't cost much to make a few inquiries, and you might not have to send your broken stock off to who-knows-where to get it re-made sight-unseen on a leap of faith.
(Grumble.) Heck, if I had a decent shop-space of my own, I'd offer to do it myself. I've been working in wood for 15 years now, and I like to think I'm pretty good at it. Wouldn't charge a cent for it either, as I'd love to help out a fellow THR member get a fine old obscure gun like a Winchester M-1910 up and running. (I've actually done this before.) Unfortunately, I'm currently unemployed, all of my tools are buried in storage, and I have no workspace. Doing silly unrelated-to-my-line-of-work side projects are keeping me in beer 'n skittles, but the economy needs to get hopping a bit more before I can be able to rent my own space again. Nertz.
That being said, if the local shops can't help you, you might do some digging on stock-making, wood-carving and wood-working using your favorite search engine. There's a LOT of wood-working sites, and I imagine there's got to be a stock-maker or two with a website.
Another place to check is in The Shotgun News. There's usually ads for stock-makers to be found there, and once again, inquiries are cheap to make. That's presuming no-one here on THR chimes in with a recommendation.
Dies are certainly available new from the likes of Huntington, (And I believe Starline has new brass.) but that doesn't help your trade prospects. My idea of a perfect solution in that regard is to go get yourself a Winchester M-1907 rifle to go with 'em. Any excuse to get more guns, I always say.
Sorry I couldn't be more help. If you get really desperate, post or PM or e-mail me a pic of your fore-end, (particularly the inside and inletting.) and I'll see if I can figure something out. At least it wouldn't cost anything.
Mike Hull
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You might call Midway, 1-800-243-3220, they own a couple of stockmaking companies that they merged, and one of them specialized in replacement stocks for those oldies. I just can't remember the name of the company, but they'll tell you.
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