Found an old revolver casing in my back yard...

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Ok here's the story..

My sons were playing in the backyard today, and one of them came to me and said "Dad, I found a bullet"! Being smart kids, they knew not to touch the cartridge, and find an adult. I told him to go ahead and bring it to me, and what I have here is a spent .38 S & W casing. I did a little research on the internet and found out that it is an older cartridge, one that fell out of popularity around 40 years ago, but was once a popular and widely used caliber for police and military use. The casing is not brass, but appears to be steel or aluminum (it's shiny silver) which leads me to believe it is of rather recent manufacture. You can still purchase this caliber cartridge, but it is rare and expensive, not the type of thing your average criminal would be running around shooting. My wife and I bought our home just over a year ago, and the house that was built in 1939. We live minutes away from a downtown city area, in a residential neighborhood, not they type of place where you can discharge a firearm and not get noticed by neighbors and police.

So I'm just wondering, doing amateur detective work, about the history of this old revolver cartridge, and if anyone knows if it was loaded in anything other than brass in the modern era? At the top, above the primer is the marking W-W and below is 38 S & W. The punch in the primer is a solid, heavy round dent in the center, very rounded and uniform.. if that matters.

The only thing I can speculate is that at some point, long ago, when there were far far fewer houses built in my city (Chattanooga, TN) and times were way different than they are today, it might have been commonplace for a person to discharge a firearm in a semi-urban wooded area and not have the cops called on you. Otherwise, why would there be a spent revolver round in my backyard, maybe 10 feet from the deck of my 70 year old home?

Anyway, I thought it would be fun to post this on this forum, and see if anybody has any theories about the .38 S & W cartridge, and how a spent round ended up in my yard. Thanks!
 
I've raised my boys to respect NRA safety recommendations, if you see a gun, don't touch it, get an adult etc etc.. and that goes for ammunition as well. Any history detectives have a theory about my kid's find?
 
The shell could have come from anywhere, out of someones pocket, out of a shooting bag, someone walking by could have just tossed it away. It's still a very common round, still being used, the nickle plating shows it to be a modern shell. Now if you had found a old corroded Merwin and Herbert shell that might be worth commenting about.
 
W-W means Winchester Western, it is an old Winchester case. These days Winchester cases are stamped WIN, so it's probably ten years older or more. The bright finish is a nickel plating over brass.
As to how it got there? Who knows? Shooting in the back yard, cleaning the car out after a range day, garbage bag broke when carried out of the garage, there are plenty of scenarios, but they don't matter. It's just an empty cartridge case, not a human skeleton with moldering flesh still attached.
Last time I moved house I threw out 100 once fired nickel winchester cases in .38 S&W. I doubt it will cause a forensic investigation if one of them turns up in ten years or so.
Also good on you for getting your kids to not play with potential ammo, next step is to give them a lesson in how to tell potentially live ammo from range trash. Back when I was a kid I found some .243 blanks. They rattled when I shook them so I bashed one open with a hammer to see what was inside. Amazingly I didn't set the primer off! When a small pile of grey powder poured out I had a lightbulb moment and thought "Is that gun powder?" So out with some matches and I try to ignite the powder to see if it is gun powder. *Foosh!* I a) knew it was gun powder and b) needed new eyebrows.
Also don't throw rivet blanks onto a fire is another lesson I learnt through trial and error. :)
Boys will try to learn about these things, so best you teach the lessons under controlled conditions.
 
First, I agree that your kids did the right thing.

The W-W headstamp has been used since (I think) the 1960's so the cartridge case is relatively recent (not Wild West or Gold Rush days), It is nickel plated, common on commercial ammunition. As to how it got there, your guess is as good as anyone else's.

An empty cartridge case, of course, is simply an inert piece of metal and is no more dangerous than a bolt or a bottle cap.

Jim
 
There's about a million and one ways it could have got there. Being that they don't make many mainstream guns in guns in 38 smith and wesson anymore, it's just a piece of trash that wound up in your backyard. How it got there is anybody's guess. A bird could have picked it up, or maybe the same forces that cause socks to vanish from inside the dryer.
 
hardworker is probably right. The household sock monster (Pes Tela Monasteriense Domesticus) has a wild cousin the brass monster (Orichalcum Monasteriense). It is responsible for fired cases going missing at the range. Based on the amount of brass consumed, I would say they are more prevalent than the sock monster and definitely not endangered. Your kids may have stumbled on the remains of a brass monster nest.
 
The household sock monster (Pes Tela Monasteriense Domesticus) has a wild cousin the brass monster (Orichalcum Monasteriense). It is responsible for fired cases going missing at the range.

This is a bravura display of field knowledge, but the old biology teacher in me can't resist nitpicking your nomenclature. When using the genus-species name, the genus is always capitalized, but species and subspecies never are. Further, in scholarly writing they're underlined. Thus:

Monasteriense domesticus pes tela
and
Monasteriense orichalcum

It's especially nice that you included the pes tela subspecies to differentiate from the house monster that causes pocket knives to vanish:

Monasteriense domesticus cultellus

I've developed a bad infestation of those as I've grown older. They seem to particularly favor Swiss Army Knives of keychain size.
 
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Joe Demko:
I stand corrected. I haven't encountered that particular varmint yet, but I did have a few pocket knives go missing as a kid. Maybe I wasn't as forgetful as I thought. Hmmm....
 
Years ago I was metal detecting in a city park in Dickinson North Dakota around a rock formation that my grandfather mentoned had at one time had a lot of rattlesnakes known to locate the area and he mentioned it wasn't uncommon for folks to go over and shoot at them peridoically. Anyway, found lots of oddball cartridges with the dectector, 25-20's, 38-40's, 32 Colt, 38 Colt, 32 rimfires, etc. in addition to lots of modern cartridges.
 
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