Fresh start for an old Luger

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nwilliams

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I picked up this Luger a few weeks back and it had a few issues but for $400 I figured it would make a nice project gun and shooter. It's chambered in .30 Luger (7.65 Para) and it's a commercial model but I've always been somewhat of a Luger fanatic so whenever I can get my hands on one for a good price it's difficult not to snatch it up.

This one was in pretty rough shape. The checkering was mostly worn off the grips. The ejector was broken at the end, someone had etched their SS# into the backstrap and magazine was missing the thumb piece which is needed to push up on the hold open latch when the gun is empty. Finally the wood base for the mag was cracked. The gun was also incredibly dirty, it looked like nobody had cleaned it in many years.

I started by taking the gun completely apart down to bare frame and and removed all the small parts. I cleaned the frame, slide and breech block and all the small parts removing years of accumulated rust and crud. I then ordered replacement grips, an aftermarket mag and a new ejector. When the parts arrived I put the gun back together. The grips required a good bit of fitting and the mag required a lot of fitting. I ended up sanding down the surface of the mag until it would slide in and out easily and then lightly reblued it to give it an aged look if possible. I also had to sand off the SS# etched into the backstrap and then cold blued it just enough to match the original bluing on the rest of the gun.

I'm pretty happy with how it came out. I have a couple of all original Lugers that I are more collectors pieces so I figure I'll just consider this one a shooter and have fun with it.

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You did a very nice job restoring that P-08! Thanks for the pictures.

Question ... in today's world of handgun calibers, "would you feel undergunned", with that p-08?

Had thoughts of a 'film noir-ish', crusty elder old-school self-made investigator carrying a similar type of firearm .... any thoughts on the subject?
 
The Luger I owned as a "shooter" had definite pluses AND minuses.

There has never been a handgun I have fired that pointed as easily and naturally as the 1915 frankenluger I had. An armistice piece assembled from available parts under the restrctive Treaty of Versaille.

Mine was a 9mm, and while its sexy looks and easy pointing had me in love with it, it is basically a late 19th century design with strength and function issues that relegated it to a seldom shot show off piece as opposed to a pragmatic handgun.

I'm interested in hearing the views of others that want at this late date to use them as "shooters".
 
Nice!

Don't tell me that it is the same magazine in the "before" and "after"?
 
In about '96 the Russians were selling the Lugers they collected from the Krauts. Arsenal refinished, non-matching numbers were selling for about $400. That's about $700 in today's money. I should have bought one; it was the only pistol I could identify. We had Luger squirt guns back in the 60's.
 
In about '96 the Russians were selling the Lugers they collected from the Krauts. Arsenal refinished, non-matching numbers were selling for about $400. That's about $700 in today's money. I should have bought one; it was the only pistol I could identify. We had Luger squirt guns back in the 60's.


I bought one of the Russian capture Lugers around that time (mid 90's), and it has been a great shooter. 100% relialbe, very accurate, and a timeless design. I should have bougt two because at $300 - $350 a pop, they were a steal. Not collector guns as they've all been re-dipped, but great pistols non the less. Mine retains all the Nazi proof marks, and the parts are all matching. It is a BYF 41.
 
Don't tell me that it is the same magazine in the "before" and "after"?
Aftermarket mag.
Question ... in today's world of handgun calibers, "would you feel undergunned", with that p-08?

Had thoughts of a 'film noir-ish', crusty elder old-school self-made investigator carrying a similar type of firearm .... any thoughts on the subject?
The Luger is a great gun and very accurate but I'm not sure I'd carry one for self defense if I had other options open to me. I would pick a Luger over a lot of other handguns but there are a lot of handguns I'd pick over a Luger.

Most Lugers will not chamber HP ammo without custom work being done to the gun. The jump from mag to chamber is quite long in Luger's and P38's so they tend to feed heavier 124gr and 147gr ammo the best. My 9mm Luger will chamber 115gr but it's picky about which brand. Many consider it unsafe to shoot "hot" 9mm through Luger's and P38's so that rules out most defensive ammo.

IMO the P08 Luger is an engineering marvel in the gun world. There's no other gun quite like it and I doubt there ever will be again. There's no other gun that quite feels like a Luger either and especially when you shoot one, they are just buckets of fun to fire and draw all kinds of attention at the range. My other .30 Luger P08 is an absolute tack driver it's just a shame the ammo is hard to find and pricey. I buy Luger's because they are unique, elegant and fun to shoot, as for a defensive gun I would pick something else.
 
7.65 Luger feed MUCH better than 9mm ones witgh about any sort of bullet. I have a Swiss that is too nice to shoot (but have a few magazines full) and a 1920 Commercial similar to yours which I shoot alot, mostly with cast boolits. The .30 Lugers have zilch recoil and are really accurate and seem much ore reliable. Maybe the Swiss knew something!
 
Great job, excellent pictures, and what a beauty! I've never shot one in that caliber but my grandfather has one in 9mm. I love shooting that gun but unfortunately I've never seen one for sale even semi locally.
 
My other .30 Luger P08 is an absolute tack driver it's just a shame the ammo is hard to find and pricey.


Buy an inexpensive single stage press and reload for it. .30 Luger bullets and brass are available, as are the reloading dies. If I can reload for .32 French Longue, you can reload for .30 Luger.
 
I've owned a couple of Lugers, over the years -- two of them Soviet captures. All of them were tack-drivers. (One of them was very accurate despite badly pitted lands and grooves.) On the Soviets, the only part that were mismatched was the side plates -- with the old number stamped out.

The only problems I ever had was finding good magazines -- and Mec-Gar replacement mags worked for me.

I may have to get another one, one of these days.
 
What kind of surface was the gun on for the "After" pictures?

I've always wondered how that's done. It's one thing to use a woven mat type surface as a backdrop, or to photograph a gun outside on some weathered decking. But my favorite shots are like yours: on a pure white background that just disappears into the horizon along with hard shadows at the front of the photo.

How is this done?
 
What kind of surface was the gun on for the "After" pictures?

I just used a sheet of foam board, some good lighting and tripod. I went to school for photography years ago so I guess that helps a little.
 
For you guys that are reloading for .30 Lugers, where are you getting your bullets and what diameter?

I’ve got a 1923 Commercial in 7.65 with a slightly oversized barrel. I was having great success using Berry Plated .312" 90 Grn bullets. Being plated they swaged down nicely in my bore and were very reliable over 4.5 grains of WW231.

Berry now discontinued that bullet and I’m searching for a replacement.

Thanks,

Chuck
 
I thought that a really nice touch, was the old ammo in the last picture, with oxidized lead tips.

Really good restoration, and photography.
 
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