Mismatch Artillery Luger Value.

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I have the high bid on an Artillery Luger. Come to find out the gun is a complete mismatch. The description never mentioned it, and now I am afraid I may end up with a piece of junk. What is the value of an Artillery Luger such as this as a shooter? Right now I have it at $999 but the auto bit is set to go a little higher. I also think the frame is originally a police luger because after looking at it I see it has the cutout for a mag safety.
 

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When you say "as a shooter" you mean what is it's value as a range gun for people who like shooting Lugers?
 
Yes, as I can't see how it would have a lot of collector value to a Luger collector.
 
It would be a good gun for anybody who likes to use their collection of history. You would be looking for a ww2 collector who has to have one of each weapon used. I would say your probably in the ballpark on max value of what we know but I wouldn't personally go more except for the artillery barrel length. The gun is a bit rough around the edges too. This is why I hate online auctions because they don't necessarily need to mislead you to still be deceptive. Conveniently leaving out the mixed numbers and such just serves to force you to find issues through pictures which may or may not be blurry enough you can't figure anything out. A disassembled gun in hand is the only good way to tell its worth. Reassemble and shoot if safe to do so, then figure out what it's worth to you.
 
This is sad, but true. I have sold Things on Gunbroker before and when I do I ALWAYS give complete descriptions as well as clear pictures. The really sad part about this deal is these are people I had dealt with for years.
 
Not to say this is the case, but I own (proudly) a beat up old rem m11 that I got legitimately as a complete parts gun. I now have about 500 hours inside of it with a jewelers file cleaning up tiny burrs and smoothing it up. I certainly increased its value from a parts gun but it's not really a survivor either. If I were to hand it to someone they would likely be nervous about shooting it due to looks, but it is tight and better than new as far as operation goes. Some internal parts were made from sheetmetal blanks. If I were to put up pictures with little or no explanation people would never know what was done and I would lose money...but do the same with a vintage Luger, colt, sw etc I would be grossly deceiving people. Any time you buy a used gun, especially a vintage military gun you are taking a gamble. Do all you can to put odds in your favor. Ask questions. Read fine print. Don't be mislead.
 
a friend of mine has a luger his dad brought back from germany during ww-2 that is mismatched that he took off of a german soldier,and the bring back papers he has have the mismatched numbers noted, being mismatched does not always mean its not german armores job during the war. eastbank.
 
I was kind of figuring the same thing value wise, around $1,200, but wasn't sure.
 
If you get it for $1000 I'd say it's a great deal, assuming nothing functionally wrong with it. And $1200 is not bad either. I have a mismatched numbers 1913 DWM P08 that shoots great. It's a lot of fun and probably worth less than $800. A functioning mismatched Artillery for $200 more sounds like a gun I'd want. Good luck with the auction!

And of course you know what a pristine, all matching, Artillery would sell for!
 
Back in the bad old days a lot of military units did what is called Mass Cleaning...
where they'd pull apart their guns, and one guy would specialize in cleaning ONE or two parts...
then they'd re-assemble everything without consideration to numbers...this caused no end of problems...
as some weapons were simply not made to Mil-Spec standards (loose fit tolerances)
that goes double for Lugers...mismatched parts usually means it'll need some finesse...
as in a Fluff & Buff like you would do on an old rusty piece or an inexpensive gun...

In Short, it is likely, that if the pistol has not previously received it,
it will need hand-fitting for proper function. This is relatively normal for mismatches.
On the upside, its a very rare piece anyway, so Party On!!
 
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