from 30-06 to .308

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sarduy

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let's say i have two rifles "Remington 700 30-06" and i want to make one of them a .308 can the action of a 30-06 be used with a .308 barrel? i know the 30-06 is longer and the 308 is going to have more travel space.

can this be done? does it work?
 
Used Remington actions don't cost much...I recommend getting a short action, it will make things much simpler.

I'm not so sure a long action will even work for a 308...I've never heard of that being done. The bolt face is the same but the mag dimensions are different...I don't think the short magazine will work in the long action.
 
it'll work just fine but a new barrel will have to be threaded, chambered and fitted to your 700 by a gunsmith and of course you'll have to pay your gunsmith the appropriate $$$

It would be far cheaper to trade or sell the 30-06 in for a 308 rem 700
 
I'm not so sure a long action will even work for a 308...I've never heard of that being done.

The pre-64 Model 70 Winchester came in only one action length, and Winchester chambered it in everything from .22 Hornet to .375 H&H Magnum.

It will definitely work -- but you will need a shorter magazine follower and a filler block to take up the extra space in the magazine.
 
I use a chamber adapter to fire surplus .308 in my M1 that I got from the CMP. It works great for my uses. Accuracy is not effected by it much at all, it does open the groups up some but not a lot. I shot several hogs with it over the years. There are several companies that sell the adapters I got mine from MCA for $25 and that included a broken shell extractor so I can change it back anytime I want.
 
A 30-06 barrel can be removed and rethreaded to fit and head spaced correctly by reaming. I bought a used 1909 Oderndorf Mauser that had a refurbished Remington 30-06 barrel from a Model 721 fitted to it and chambered in 308 Win. What is proposed is easier. A block is put in the back of the magazine box, go look at a Winchester Model 70 long action in a short cartridge and you will see how it is set up.
 
I have not been around long enough to see many pre-64 Model 70's...and the ones I have seen have all been long action rounds like the 30-06.

I get what you're saying about the block in the mag...makes sense.
 
Hang around gun stores and you may see a pre-64 Model 70 in .22 Hornet. Winchester could make any cartridge work -- and work right -- in the pre-64 Model 70.
 
It doesn't have to be a pre '64. I have a M70 FWT from 1979 that is a push feed long action in 308 and it has a block in the back of the mag box. Interarms Mark X did the same thing. Hit the used gun racks and you will find one in a long action and short cartridge. I have seen '98 Mausers custom built to handle 300 WSM with the mag box blocked.
 
No disrespect to anyone.

Sarduy - it's a lot easier than these guys are making it. Cheaper, too.

You can buy a used 308 barrel on Gunbroker for around 50 bucks. Mine cost $57 with shipping. Brand new factory 700 barrels are also available at various prices. Custom builders buy new rifles in whatever caliber, pull off the barrel and sell them cheap. They are up for auction daily.

Unless you're already good at gunsmithing, you probably cannot get the existing barrel off the action, nor can you check the new barrel to see if it headspaces correctly on your action. If you have that skill, you can save a hundred bucks or so. I did it, but I've been doing that stuff at home for about 10 years, and I own the barrel vice, action wrench and headspace gauges.

My local gunsmith will swap barrels on a 700 for $100, including reaming the chamber if the headspace is too tight. He also tries to push you into $150 to reblue the rifle (mostly because he mars the bluing while removing/installing and he wants to cover his marks). But if you're not picky on prettiness, you don't have to reblue. The finish isn't ruined, only marred sometimes. I didn't hurt mine at all.

I made NO magazine modifications to my long action. It takes shorter cartridges the same as the long ones, and feeds them perfectly into the chamber. I asked my local gunsmith if mag modifications were needed and his reply was, "Who told you that?" Then he laughed. Lotsa stuff gets said every day, but often truth is much simpler. Do you have a friendly local gunsmith? Stop by with a Coke or Pepsi and talk to him for two or three minutes. I bet he's a nice guy when you arrive offering a small gift and only need 3 minutes of his time. But don't take up half his afternoon, he's trying to make a living in that shop.
 
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