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Front cocking serrations, revisited -- be honest

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Old Dog, Oct 16, 2018.

  1. Patocazador

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    Offhand, I don't remember which autoloaders they are but there are 3 that I have that are really tough to rack a shell due to the strong recoil spring. I use the serrations on those 3.
     
  2. GBExpat

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    None of my pistols sport front serrations, but I do not think that it would bother me if they did.

    I have been doing one-handed press checks for years (I have also found the one-hand method handy for Glock disassembly :)) so that particular front-serrations use for me would be off of the table.
     
  3. sota

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    I'm an overhand/slingshot fan as well (being a lefty and all) but there is a good argument on how it could be of a slight detriment during a reload with a firearm that likes to drop the slide auto-magically with an aggressive magazine seating; you'll likely to rack out a loaded round by "accident", especially under stress. Maybe it's a more of a gamer issue than real life defensive gun use issue (data showing the number of times a personal attack required a reload to be stopped is on every report I've seen, zero) but it's a possible scar. I'm not a Tier 1 Operator High Speed Low Drag Face Shooting Professional, so I can't really say if it's a big screaming deal.
     
  4. ATLDave

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    I have never understood the view that only things that work "universally" are worth knowing how to do. Different guns work differently, just as different cars all drive a little differently. If you are just driving to the grocery store, spend a minute in the driveway adjusting the mirrors and finding the wiper switch, and you'll be fine. If you're planning to race the dang thing - really use it aggressively and at its limits - yeah, you'll need to figure out the idiosyncrasies, and no you won't be able to do everything exactly the same as in another car.

    This isn't a FPS video game where we all run around and pick up found weapons.
     
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  5. Sovblocgunfan

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    I own guns with and without them including (gasp) a 1911 with them. Either way for me. But I won't pay more for them as I don't see them necessarily as a feature.
     
  6. rbernie
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    No, but my wife and my children and I do not all share the same preferences in carry guns. For example, my Glock and my bride's Sig P225 have different controls and control locations - it's just a simple statement of fact. I am very comfortable running either (have 3+ decades of experience on each) but I find it useful for my purposes to drill a manual of arms that works equally (by feel, sight unseen) regardless of which one I'm holding at the moment.

    YMMV.
     
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  7. JTQ

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    Unless it has the possibility of fouling a safety lever like the one on the Beretta 92FS/M9, Ruger P-Series, S&W TDA autos, etc.



    Sure, "battlefield pickups" can happen, but chances are significantly higher that you'll use the pistol you own/carry, and if you use the technique that is advantageous to the gun you use, rather than a one size fits all technique, you'll generally be better off.
     
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    Which is why some folk (cough, cough) will use front cocking serrations for overhand / slingshot slide manipulations. :)
     
  9. ATLDave

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    Right, and a different index, and a different feeling trigger, and a slightly different magazine opening at the base of the grip. So you're already having to make adjustments to go from shooting one to the other. You're already out of the realm of the "universal."
     
  10. Corpral_Agarn

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    I have no use for front serrations.

    I find them a pain when trying to pair the gun to a leather holster.
    They get stuck.

    I'll pass if I get the choice. I will deal with it if I don't.
     
  11. GunnyUSMC

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    I guess you and the APX wouldn't get along to good.
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  12. ATLDave

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    Holy jeez... would you like some pistol on your slide serrations?
     
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  13. Corpral_Agarn

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    LOL ^^This

    We probably wouldn't get a long too good.

    I haven't picked up the striker fired bug yet but I expect it to happen at some point.
     
  14. Vern Humphrey

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    I always object to having a feature I don't want or need -- because it costs money to put those front serrations on, you know.
     
  15. Good Ol' Boy

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    Don't bother me and don't think I have a gun with them, so can't say if I'd use them.


    On 1911's specifically, I much more dislike rails than FCS.
     
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    LOL! Well put!
     
  17. rskent

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    It shoots better than it looks. Or so I have heard.
     
  18. Walkalong

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    Heck no. Rake (Not rack) the slide with the back serrations with three fingers over the ejection port pulling out the offending round in one motion.
     
  19. Walkalong

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    Exactly.
     
  20. rskent

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    For aesthetic reasons only. I am not a fan. I have always been an over the top kind of guy. I don’t do “press checks”. I don’t see the need for front cocking serrations for me.
    However, I have been drooling over the new Glock 45, so maybe I will end up with one and love them. Even then I don’t see me jacking the slide like Frank Proctor.
    I’m sure its great for him, but I am clearly not “high speed” enough.
     
  21. Corpral_Agarn

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    While I agree, I have one pistol with front serrations that only came WITH the serrations.

    I have learned to live with it and it doesn't get cool leather like most my other guns.
     
  22. Dframe

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    Well said Vern. I'm in total agreement
     
  23. 357 Terms

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    Racing stripes! !
     
  24. Demi-human

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    No.
     
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  25. Charlie98

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    That's one of the reasons I own the automatics I do... the 1911, the Kahr, my Buckmark, and at one time (hopefully soon, again...) the BHP... is that all the controls are basically in the same place and operate the same way (i.e. frame-mounted safety goes down for fire, etc.) In the case of the Kahr, it has no safety... but everything else is basically the same, and the grip profile, to me anyway, is very 1911-like. I'm not saying I can interchange any of those weapons for each other as my daily carry piece, or be expected to run a timed course with equivalent performance... despite their similarities, they are all 4 very different weapons. I did make the choice about 10 years ago to train and carry one weapon system... the Kahr. Nothing is universal...
     
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