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Full Auto Air Gun...?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Nick1911, May 5, 2004.

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  1. Nick1911

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    I just think it would be a cool thing to have. As far as I know, the only one made is a $200 Russian one that is all plastic. I wonder why no one makes a quality one...? I know I like the idea, anyone else out there who would buy one if you could get a quality, metal one for a reasonable price (prehaps there isn't enough interest in them to justify the cost of tooling up to make em?) That wouldn't fall under any ATF reg, would it?

    Just thinking out loud...

    Nick
     
  2. captain obvious

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    My paintball gun is full auto (or damn near close) - its a Tippmann 98 with a reaction trigger set really light
     
  3. standingbear

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    full auto air guns are available in just about any "flavor" you like.there is an mp5 version that i recently saw as well as a mac 11 version.they are metal.check the guns-n-stuff website.Ive seen the other versions that run on small motors and accept the regular accessories on the real guns..the same company even makes close copies of the sound suppressors and other accessories.I forget where the site is but someone even made metal GE minigun complete with spinning barrels and such.they are fun and very realistic.try this site..http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Category?menu1=1&menu2=42#14401
     
  4. Nick1911

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    I'm probably missing it in the catelog, but all i'm seeing that's close to what I'm looking for is the Airsoft series, which (to my knowlage) all fire the 6mm plastic round. What I'm really looking for is one that takes the standard .177 cal steel bb, and fires it out there with a pretty good punch. Am I missing it in their catelog? :confused:

    Thanks,
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    no..i think they all pretty much shoot the 6mm plastic bbs.still i think the motorized ones from mauri have motor upgrades that send the bb out past 450fps.it isnt powerful but it does sting.awhile back.I had a bb machinegun..it was called the AMP.it used regular bbs but you needed a can of freon to fire it or a air compressor.it was full auto and went to the trash after freon became too expensive.sometimes you can find those thompson look alike bb machine guns that was used in carnivals but they run on air compressors and are expensive as they are a collectors item now.
     
  7. SirPorl

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    Sounds cool

    My painball gun is full auto. It is a Smart Parts Shocker 4x4 SF.

    SirPorl
     
  8. MagKnightX

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    the only FA .177 BB gun I know of is the Drozd, which looks like a DeWalt Uzi.
     
  9. Dave R

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    Great description!
     
  10. Frank Exchange Of Views

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    The NewMatics PM16 PCP rifle was supposed to have gone into "full production" this past February according to this article:

    http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=384

    Appears to use a modified M16 lower - select fire and M16 ergonomics (excluding the air bottle as forearm) magazine was integral to the gun in the earliest articles I had read around a year ago - then I think they were citing 26 rounds, the article above claims 30 with a 50 to be available at some future time.

    Looks like it could be fun, but the NewMatics people do not appear to have a website (unless I simply missed it) and I haven't called to price the thing yet.
     
  11. JohnKSa

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    From all accounts, the Drozd, although unconventional in appearance, is a quality product.

    When used with lead ball ammo instead of steel BBs, it is also supposed to be quite accurate.
     
  12. Ascot500

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    Daisy made an ungainly looking CO2 pistol, Model 2003 which used a 35 round mag and fired from an open bolt.
    There are still a few around on the auction sites and they are easy to convert.
    You will need to adapt for bulk CO2 using a paintball tank, also fairly easy.
    This is because the temperature of a 12 gram drops rapidly when rock&rolling.
    Do a search and you may find detailed instructions for doing the conversion.

    Be safe - wear eye protection.
     
  13. tgwms

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    sorry to dig up a 5 year old thread...

    ... but this thread hit near the top on Google for 'full auto airgun', so people are landing here often. and i'd hate for the thread to not be 100% accurate for all those people ;) ha

    www.fullyautomaticairgun.com

    just what you are looking for Mr Nick.
     
  14. cratti

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    There's a few full-autos available, and to my knowledge, the most heavily-regulated thing is the full-auto electric/CO2 Airsoft guns; some cities don't like them too much. Nearly any semiautomatic paintball marker can be converted to full auto/selective fire just by getting an electronic trigger, which if I'm not mistaken, is the same concept behind the DROZD.
     
  15. tgwms

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    no... wait you're missing it

    - the drozd is nothing like a paintball gun. it fires from an open (OPEN, not unlocked) breech using a direct strike from a solenoid on an inverted poppet valve. that is nothing like any painball gun i've ever seen.

    - and no, there are not 'a few' available. this is not airsoft, the drozd is the only full auto airgun (metallic 177 caliber projectile) on the market. there are a few 'one-offs' and kit guns, but the drozd is it...

    enter the GSMG

    not to argue or anything... but facts be facts! :)
     
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    That is precisely how the Tippmann paintpall guns work, in addition to others.
     
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    Drozd picture

    I read up on the Drozd a couple of years ago and bought one. I also bought the kit which allows me to use a paintball pressure cylinder setup. Changing out the co2 cartridges is a pain.

    Good power...not a toy. The Drozd has three settings, single shot, 3 shot, and 6 shot burst. There is a mod board out there which allows full auto. The factory magazine only holds 30 BB's. Many different types of accessories for the Drozd including magazines which hold hundreds of BB's, longer barrels for more velocity, large compressed air/gas tanks for extended shooting. Youtube has some fun videos.
     

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    And If I might add the Drozd has a lot of metal in it's construction. The outside is covered in thick plastic/synthetic material which seems to be very durable. The metal magazine and other metal parts seem to be stoutly constructed.
     
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    The Drozd looks like a lot of fun but the cost is hard to justify. For those that have one, is it worth it? Would you buy one again knowing what you know now?
    Also, I've heard they are quite loud, so probably not something to play around with in the garage?
     
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    Air guns are great for indoor practice. They are all the rage in the UK where owning a real gun is the stuff of fantasy for most. I've marveled at the idea of an auto BB gun for plinking but it has drawbacks. Obviously the largest is the air supply. They throw out a lot of air and don't really achieve good velocity. Ammo is cheap, it's the compressed air or CO2 that is the problem. Super low velocity isn't much fun either. A BB pistol is underwhelming for the most part.

    You can get a few higher velocity types of pistols but most are 450 fps or lower. Rifles are of course higher powered but are not as managable and don't offer the fun of pistol practice IMO. I settled on a single shot, pneumatic type. It delivers a lead .177 pellet at 500 fps with only one pump. It is a break-barrel, breach loaded gun and is a great target gun and also is useful (but not really practical) for close range pest control. It's a Webley Tempest and is an English gun. You can find them still under the Beeman name. I shot paper targets in a steel shot trap indoors, when I had the time.
    -Bill
     
  22. trigga

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    there is the walther ppks .177 cal 15 shot that you can mod to be full auto. i have one and was thinking of converting it too. there is a site step by step how to convert it. here is a quick vid, about half way into the vid they shoot the little thing.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ms58RQ2r8
     
  23. Hush

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    Airsoft is the way to go...but there are custom, etc options for .177bbs. Never seen a pellet full auto, but if it can be thought of, it can be made. No ATF regs with no ignition. You will most likely have to rely on an external air source (Co2 paintball tank or compressor) Or, like I always wanted as a kid, one of those TommyGun BB guns from the carnival..where you have to shoot out the star. In terms of range, accuracy, and power, the difference between .177 bb, and 6mm airsoft isnt all that different. Plus the airsoft options are significantly more diverse (imagine any gun you could dream of...full size, weight, and metal for only $300 bucks...) PLUS you can actually shoot people with them.

    IMO, unless your dead set on practicing for the prize on the top shelf or the big teddy bear...a full auto bb gun isnt going to be as satisfying as you think. I know it offends the sensibilities of most on here, but think airsoft.
     
  24. trigga

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    oh and the ppk is all metal except for some parts like grip, magazine, co2 knob and some internals like the barrel housing. it's around $60-90 and a great fun gun. only down fall is the blow back kind of robs the velocity. rated at 290fps, that's like for the first 50 shots out the the 12 gram co2. very nice replica gun.
     
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    If anyone has a scanner and american rifleman back into the 70s or 80s, there used to be a thing called the M19-AMP and M19-A. it was full auto, .177 and used either a tank of compressed air or a small one pound freon can (yeah, really), and had a max capacity of 3000 BBs. They used to advertise it in AR all the time. I'll search my collection and get a date, and post the contact info for the company (which is likely long dead) And now for the edit...

    Find the ad on page 66 of the june 1982 American Rifleman, bottom of the page.

    LARC INT.
    P.O BOX 460
    Maitland, FL 32751
    (305) 339-6699
     
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