Full Auto Air Gun...?

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How soon we forget. I remember that now that you mention it. There is a new copy in the works which was referenced in one of the links in this thread. Like all fast or CO2 based guns, it had low velocity. these days, the seals may be leaking and it'd be even less exciting. Very cool for $40 back in the day though.
-Bill
 
They throw out a lot of air and don't really achieve good velocity. Ammo is cheap, it's the compressed air or CO2 that is the problem. Super low velocity isn't much fun either. A BB pistol is underwhelming for the most part.
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the Daisy Red rider i used to kill birds with, back when i was a youngster, only shoots 250 fps. The 480fps from the Walther, or 540fps Drozd would be just fine for pest control. A multi-shot burst within 20 yards is going to drop a squirrel or just about any bird with no problems.

As for the air... just get an air compressor and a filling station from a paintball supply shop; free bulk air.
 
Well, if I'm not mistaken, that website:

http://www.fullyautomaticairgun.com/

States a pretty blatant lie:

The GSMG is a fully automatic airgun firing BBs or pellets at incredibly high speeds;
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No, I don't think that it will feed pellets at incredibly high speeds. I believe they are lying. BBs yes, pellets, no. If they lie about that, what else are they lying about?

the Daisy Red rider i used to kill birds with, back when i was a youngster, only shoots 250 fps.
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I used to kill birds with a red ryder too - about 1 out of every 100 shots, I'd be accurate enough to hit with. This one may or may not have the accuracy you need. I had a Drodz Beehive, and it was reasonably accurate (much more than a Red Ryder), but I'll take one shot from a single shot pellet gun any day over a rain of less-accurate and non-expansive BBs (which is why I sold the Drodz - no real practical use - fun as all get-out though).
 
Totally off-topic, but you guys keep jogging my memory: My mother gave me my first Daisy Red Ryder for Christmas, 1941. I put holes in my lead soldiers from around fifteen feet, killing Japs and Germans. Patriotic imagination and all that, at age seven and eight.

Wish I'd kept those soldiers intact. Can you imagine what they'd bring on eBay? (Same for that two-foot-high stack of pristine comic books, too, for that matter.)

:D, Art
 
lying?

No, I don't think that it will feed pellets at incredibly high speeds. I believe they are lying. BBs yes, pellets, no. If they lie about that, what else are they lying about?
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jeez man- open your mind a bit. the Beretta CX-4 Storm fires pellets and BBs. why could a similar mechanism not be used?

a company's statement is not a blatant lie simply because its product's operation is not obvious to you.
 
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I think they mean lead shot, although they use the term "pellets". That's the only way it can be fed from a hopper. Cylindrical pellets would indeed have a tough time feeding from a magazine. Spherical ammo just doesn't jam.

I've shot BB's a plenty as a kid and have owned several air powered "rifles" and pistols. The difference that a target or hunting lead pellet makes in accuracy is pretty great. It gets even better through a proper pellet gun which utilizes a rifled barrel. Add to that the mass of the pellet vs a BB and you've got a much more lethal weapon as far as rodents are concerned. Shooting wild birds with anything is simply pointless and cruel IMO. Granted, they fall easily to just about any ammo as they are very light and fragile animals.

I also used to have a sling shot and armed with heavy steel shot (about .32 cal?), it would probably knock out just about anything smaller than a dog within close range. Accuracy on the other hand...
-Bill
 
Apparently there are a few select fire FX Monsoons out there. They're very accurate, very powerful, (by airgun standards), very quiet and very expensive.
 
When I want to do any serious pest control around the house I grab my RWS springer. The Drozd is just for fun. It does seem to penetrate wood boards and hit with more authority with lead BB's than steel ones. I bought one brand of lead BB's that were so soft they would deform while under the spring tension of the magazine and jam the gun every now and then. I found some foreign brand that was lead on the outside and steel cored...these worked the best. The barrel of the Drozd is rifled and I was apprehensive about shooting regular steel BB's through it.
 
You can make your own full auto bb gun - look up "vortex block". Really not a true air gun, but it would be fun to play with.
 
I have a feeling Tgwms is disingenuously site pimping here since this thread is the top result for the airgun that he is selling accessories for.

Edit: I'd feel differently if the guy had previously been a member of the forum
 
At least we don't have a P3 rep here,

But yeah I see the Drosz's (that right?) on gunbroker all the time I guess this is just about actually steel bb/pellet guns, otherwise I would suggest an airsoft gun. On a side note don't the Walther Pellet guns get crazy accuracy on par with rifles at a distance?
 
I've got a Drozd, it's a hoot. It'll punch a hole in a tin can, easy. It's very well made, nothing about it feels cheap. It gets pretty decent accuracy with lead BBs. I ate up a 6000 round jug of BBs the first week I had it... made me realize that I will never afford real full auto weapons... but the BB gun I can manage. The new ones are all black, and it looks less like a power drill with an Aimpoint CompM2 on top. :D
 
My son's paintball gun has a full auto mode and his airsoft tommy gun has a full auto mode too -- it's kinda cool -- it's electric & has metal gears
 
yes i remember seeing that tommy gun at the carnival. they has 100 round tubes of bb feeding it or something. i want one of those. and the other one too.
 
That brings back memories HOME DEPOT GEORGE! Strap a scuba tank on your back and have at it with one of these puppies. I think they would be very popular today if someone would manufacture one. Great fun.

Remember the aiming arc of the gun could not be turned far enough when it was attached at the carnival booth to shoot your buddies in the ass. The water guns did not have this safety feature and I use to drown unsuspecting friends. The old days. :)
 
I think they mean lead shot, although they use the term "pellets". That's the only way it can be fed from a hopper. Cylindrical pellets would indeed have a tough time feeding from a magazine. Spherical ammo just doesn't jam.
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Exactly, and lead shot ain't no "pellet", by definition.

It's conceivably possible that they're not lying, but I highly highly doubt it, knowing what I know about basic physics and engineering, and how darn near impossible it is to successful feed and fire soft fragile lead pellets in a full-auto mechanism. It would have to be a completely different mechanism from the one that feeds and fires round BBs. Does it look like it has 2 completely interchangeable mechanisms that come with it? I'd bet at least $10K that they're lying.

The Drodz works and works well - I had one. 1, 3, or 6 round bursts; 3 different firing rates. I don't doubt that the new gizmo can also feed and fire BBs or hardened lead shot on full-auto, just as the Drodz does. That's not the issue. The issue is whether it fires pellets full auto. It will not, 99.9999998% chance.
 
Most of the magazine fed pellet guns out there work with cylinder type mags. These work similar to a revolver, only usually the pellets are pushed out of the cylinder and chambered in the barrel by the bolt probe prior to firing.

This arrangement keeps the pellets undamaged and allows for a reliable feed. The main downside of it is that you have somewhat limited capacity. Beretta overcame this by using a belt mechanism on their CX4 pellet gun.
 
I'll take that bet

I'd bet at least $10K that they're lying.
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'Dr. Tad' please put that bet in writing. I'll take you up on it.

:)

No... seriously.
 
am i crazy or is that some of yal are crazy ? i looked at several of these fully auto bb-guns , and although most of them do look pretty darn cool , the prices that they go for are insane ?!?! why would anyone pay a thousand plus dollars ( in some case over $2k) for a bb gun rather than get a just as sweet real rifle or maybe even two ???:what:
 
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