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"Not made for use with powder propellants, this diminutive sidearm launches 4.3mm projectiles at surprisingly high velocities with the use of a percussion cap only. Own this accurate reproduction of a truly rare hallmark in firearm history. Two-piece breech. Solid steel grips. Now available in standard and case-hardened finishes. Also available is the Standard Two-Pistol Set with Case, the Case-Hardened Two-Pistol Set with Case, and the Standard and Case-Hardened Pistol Two-Pistol Set with Case. The handsome wood Display Case for two Rider Pistols is also available individually. You also can purchase 4.3mm BBs."

They're $135 each. They seem like they'd be fun, but are they more of a worthless novelty, like the pinwheel of the blackpowder realm? :confused:
 
They're toys. Like any toy, people have fun with them. Worthless novelty? Not if they amuse you. I wouldn't look down on anyone who had fun with them. After all, there are some people who still pay to go see the Miami Heat play basketball. Who am I to criticize?
 
Parlor pistols. That's what you've got. I have one too -- the color case hardened version you have is its clone. Mine has the wood case but isn't a set of two; just one.
They are sorta "toys." Not a waste or worthless novely at all.
People used to use these indoors ... but I would be really careful and USE EAR/EYE PROTECTION. And go outside ... even if you have to go to a range. They are not powerful as a Colt 1851 Navy Colt but they can put out an eye and should be used with all the safety concerns of a firearm.
 
Hunting???

(One way to look at them)
Uh, I wuz wunderin how dey wood do aginst Grizzzzlee Bars? Wut kind o penetrashun duz yo gets wif dem shootin iruns?

(Alternatively)
Oh my, my. Guns that can be hidden away and easily carried to school. They must be outlawed at once. Save the Children!

(Yet another way to look at them)
Two of them? They must be assault weapons, probably for clandestine Ninja work. Since they are so small, criminals will use them and sneak them into playgrounds for gang wars and such. Maybe even drive-bys!

Now, me, I would say fun, just for shooting in the parlor like they did in the old days, but yes, even shooting caps indoors is loud, so wear the plugs. However, since I deal with idiocy most of the day, I can see the above points of view, all too easily.

The bad thing is people who think stuff like that vote!

The Doc is out now. :cool:
 
Maybe they could help cure an infestation of mice?
Looks like more fun than a rubber band shooting gun, and those are also fun to shoot! :D
 
I have heard tell that these so called 'parlor guns' attain velocities in excess of 2900 hundred feet per second. I think the chamber pressure is around 80 thousand pounds of pressure per square inch. This particular gun has been known to kill full grown mountain lions at a range of more than 30 meters. There was talk for a time of making this the standard issue sidearm for our Armed Forces but the talk's fell through for one reason or the other. I never did get the whole story on that. I do know that it is the preferred weapon of the FBI and the U.S.Treasury Department....!!
 
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Heh, Heh, Heh. But, seriously. They’re made to fire lead round balls, or pellets, via the use of a #11 percussion cap. Some folks recommend using the magnum variety of caps, for this purpose.

The projectile will carry enough velocity to bury itself into a phone book, at about ten feet distance. One feller (a reviewer, on Dixie Gun Works), claims to get 5” groups at that distance.

They’re fun. Or, you could put an eye out. Same may be said for a lower-powered pellet hand gun. Personally, I go with simply enjoying the things for what they are, at that level – an entertaining diversion.
 
If this helps they are not considered a firearm here in Canada. Buying one is the same as buying a pellet gun that is under 500 fps.

Mine is in the white, and looks very sharp. It does seem kinda load for inside. It seems to be pretty weak, but a red ryder bb gun is weaker and my momma always said it could put out someones eye!
 
They would be fun out behind the barn on field mice. Sit back in the sun, relax with a pop, and "pop" them when they show under the bird feeder. But you have to be careful about BB placement. I've heard that they attack when they are only wounded. Since my old Daisy BB gun used to do the job, these should also manage it.
 
Parlor pistols were used with fearsome effectiveness during the Anti Japanese War.

The Communist underground used to make something similar to that Pedersoli goody during the War. It was fired by a large pistol primer only, and it propelled a tiny lead ball coated with potassium cyanide. The guns were given to agents hiding in Shanghai, Wuhan, Hangzhou, and other places with high Japanese espionage activity. Many, many Japanese war-planners, commanders, and high ranking Chinese traitors serving the occupying army were assassinated with them.

The Chinese agents were especially pleased that the Japanese officers loved the whorehouses. Because once these officers were totally mind-f*cked and lost their awareness in the height of sexual pleasure, it is simply now, just a matter of walking in there and blasting the scumbag away. For that kind of job they preferred the M1911 or the Mauser 96' carbine. Ever since the Japanese occupationists began carrying out their Unit 731 bioweapons experiments and the clandestine shipments of poison gas and powderized plague bacteria artillery shells to their regular field army units, "hotel" rooms with terrified women, and walls and beds splattered with blood and gore seemed to be a common occurence in Shanghai. From 1941-1945 over 600 various enemy officers, commanders, and agents were assassinated, and the Japanese bioweapons program was not as potent as it would be if all these members of Unit 731 and the regular army would have lived to carry out their evil intent.
HOWEVER, that parlor pistol was used for other reasons. Just like one above, the one that the Chinese agents used were single shot, so they carried at least 2 or 3 with them during missions, along with shurikens and other weapons. When the Japanese commanders would be having their little loud meetings and tea parties, these agents would sneak in, disguised as servants and coolies and bicycle-wagon pullers. When they would manage to get close to their target, they would usually set off a great smoky firecracker to create momentary panic and alarm. Once that is done, the little pistol would do it's deadly work. The potassium cyanide usually acts within mere minutes and by the time order has been restored, the target is dead, and the agent would have escaped in the midst of smoke and confusion. It is terrifying, since capture is almost inevitable, and extremely dangerous work for these proud heroes of their country. Capture by the Japanese would be the worst nightmare, since the torture faced by these underground operatives were horrid and unspeakable. That is the reason why these agents would always carry an extra pistol, in case they were captured. Death by cyanide seemed mild compared to the hideous treatment they would receive at the hands of their captors.
But the level of assassination continued to rise, and so many high ranking commanders were dying off that the Japanese officers after 1942 refused to have any more gatherings and tea parties for their followers. To do so was death, but the Chinese agents would always find a way to get at them. Simply raising one's head to get in or get out of an automobile would be risking death. And travel by car itself is deadly enough. Grenades were plentiful and the agents were always well supplied with them. So much, in fact, that every Chinese field soldier had at least 20 potato-mashers strapped onto their gearpacks.
However, what the Japanese feared most was the broadsword, and that little cyanide pistol. An officer could orchestrate the murders of an entire town in one day, but the next day, he himself would most likely be dead and bloated. Such is the price paid by any imperialist power when they attempt to subdue a proud and determined nation who refuses to be subdued.

ZHONG HUA MING ZHU WANSUEI!


Just wanted to share with you a piece of the War that my Great Uncle told me.
 
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Thanks Biermkr, my Great Uncle was a veteran of that War and also a veteran of the Long March of 1935. He suffered many illnesses, and severe malnutrition due to hypothermia and lack of food while the Red Army crossed the Great Snowy Mountains. There was so little food during that excruciating march that the soldiers would try to drink water that had been boiled with rocks and soil, hoping to get at least some minerals. More than half of the army died during the campaign and out of those, more died from frostbite, disease, and malnutrition than from combat with the Guomingdang Army.

After 1935, Japanese hostilities began to escalate at an alarming scale. In the spring of 1937, months before the Luguochiao incident, the warning bells have already sounded. Japanese warships and planes shelled Shanhaiguan, killing many innocent civilians. However, the Zhongyang Zhenfu (Guomingdang) paid little attention to these aggressive acts because their high command apparently believed that the Communist Party was a much greater threat than the Japanese. In fact, General Chiang Kai-Shek actually planned to ally with the Japanese and use the combined forces to defeat the CCP and finally, divide China between the Guomingdang, and Japan. Since 1927, he held regular summit meetings with Japanese diplomats, hoping that they would join his side. Little did he know that the vicious hound that he tried to train to bite in his favor would come back and tear massive chunks of flesh out of him.

On September 18th, 1937, Japanese troops swarmed from Manchukuo Province into the mainland, backed by overwhelming armor and aerial support. Within days of fierce fighting, over 6 entire divisions of Guomingdang military forces securing the border were wiped out. At Luguochiao, the 29th Army held off the Japanese for three bloody days, before they were broken, and the survivors scattered into the mountains. Then came Nanjing, the atrocity that shocked the world, the orchestrated and cold blooded massacre of over 300,000 innocent civilians and disarmed Chinese army troops at the capital city of the Guomingdang regime.

When the Japanese assault reached Beijing and continued to push west, the CCP in Yunan decided that it would wage a full scale war against the aggressors, despite the fact that they were almost completely unprepared. The Red Army was now divided into several different field army groups. The 8th Route Army commanded the north, while the New 4th Army took up positions in the southern provinces. Also the uniform of the regular field army was changed to resemble the standard attire of a railroad worker, since most of the Red Army soldiers were heavy industry veterans before they joined the Communist Party. However, what the CCP really focused on was the creation of an elite corps of special operations and tactical agents, trained to carry out rescue missions, espionage, and assassinations behind Japanese lines.

My Great Uncle was offered a position as an agent since he has been a veteran of the campaign since 1927. However, he chose to fight on the front lines and wear the grey uniform, he was especially skilled with the broadsword and he offered not only to command the men on the field, but to train new recruits on martial arts and swordsmanship.

There were actually more underground agents than there were soldiers in the field units during the war. Most of these agents were stationed in large cities, places with high Japanese covert activity. Communication by telegraph is extremely dangerous, so tehse agents communicated with the headquarters at Yunan through a messenger service. They could be anything, coolie wagon pullers, sreet vendors, and runners disguised as tramps and vagabonds. Using such a network, the agents established a strong communications network with the top CCP war planners such as Lin Biao, Zhu De, Liu Shaoqi, Peng Dehuai, and Mao Zedong. The messages traveled slowly but it was extremely effective. Capture was almost impossible unless a member of the underground turned traitor and told the Japanese about the goings-on.

With such a division of operatives scattered almost everywhere, not even the Japanese high command living in luxury in large cities such as Shanghai and Wuhan, surrounded by bodyguards were safe from the war. Assassinations were daily, it was just a matter of how many were killed each day. By 1942, it became so frustrating for the Japanese war cabinet at home, that they were forced to transfer almost all of their best commanders from the Phillippines, the Pacific Islands, and elsewhere to mainland China to deal with the insurgency there. So many of their most valuable officers were killed in China that the top brass, including Hideki Tojo himself, had no choice but to continue sending their limited number of highly trained commanders there. At almost the same time, the United States military began to engage the Japanese forces in the Pacific, but Hideki Tojo chose to deal with the Chinese first.

What made the CCP operatives even more successful was that the general population resented both the Japanese and the Guomingdang and after seeing that the Communists were actually campaigning to preserve the nation and expel the invaders, most of the peasants turned to help the CCP. Millions of people, including the shoe-shiner boy right down the alley of Chenghuang Miao in Shanghai, is a potential agent. They would tell the operatives of the latest Japanese troop movements, or the sightings of a high ranking officer. Within hours, the guerilla units would spring into action. Suddenly a convoy of trucks rumbling down a dusty country road was riddled with a vicious hail of machine gun fire and grenades. By the time the main army arrived, the guerillas are already gone. However, each detachment that were sent into the countryside to locate the insurgents would be eliminated, one by one, over the next few days. The Japanese did not know what was happening, for the first time since they landed in China, they began to show genuine fear.
At the same time an army unit in Huabei was being ambushed, 5 or more Japanese officers in Shanghai might be assassinated. The activities of the officers directly linked to the field operations of various units elsewhere were carefully tracked by CCP operatives in those areas. The operatives in these rural areas would transmit the messages to the high command at Yunan. In turn, Yunan would then send orders to agents in Shanghai and Suzhou to carry out hits on 'named officers' within the primary report.

Sometimes, the operatives went in teams to carry out missions. Attacks on military compounds were especially dangerous, since armed guards were everywhere. Usually disguised as vegetable sellers or farmers, a team of operatives would stake out the compound for hours, keeping tabs on the number of guards and movement into and out of the compound. Finally, as dusk fell, the operatives would aim their guns. Usually, these skilled marksmen would decide upon taking out the armed guards, one to each, meaning that one single operative would focus on one enemy guard. 7 operatives would take aim at 7 separate guards. Once the order to fire was given, the volley would cut down all of the enemy at once, with brutal and unsurpassed accuracy and efficiency. Once the gates are clear, the operatives would go in, finding the path of least resistance, and clear all rooms and pathways on their way, and take out the intended target as fast as possible.
Plans of escape were always the main priority in these missions, as the agents were eqipped with various tools of confusion and panic just in case they were threatened to be surrounded. Grenades was a favorite, but skilled marksmanship is their main weapon. That is the reason they were armed with semiautomatic pistols and revolvers rather than Thompsons and MP44s. Making each shot a killing shot is what these agents were trained from the beginning. Ammunition is costly and too valuable to waste in wild-firing.

Lastly, the cyanide pistol was perhaps one of the most feared weapons during the War of Resistance. Most of the high ranking enemy killed in Shanghai and elsewhere were killed by covert agents acting solely instead of coordinated guerilla warfare and tactical missions. Even a convoy passing by a seemingly abandoned building is prone to a devastating attack. The little primer operated pistols still packed skin-penetrating power at over 25 -50 yards, depending on the thickness of the enemys' uniforms. Once the pellet comes into contact with blood, it is usually over. The cyanide acts within seconds. By the time an officer realizes that he had been 'pin-pricked', he is usually toppling over, retching and choking in agony and bleeding from the nose and eyes.
Whenever a field army commander carries out an act of cruelty, such as the massacre of entire towns, or the torture of women and children, or is involved in biological warfare campaigns agents would relay all possible information to Yunan, where the top brass would then orchestrate the extermination of that officer.

When the CCP first began to use these weapons, the Japanese were bewildered. They could not find out why so many of their members were dropping dead all over the road, and in their offices. Soon, autopsies revealed that all of the dead were in fact, killed by cyanide poisoning, but they were not sure how they came into contact with the deadly toxin. Attempts to safeguard their food and water and alcohol supply were useless, the poison was not put into their drinks at all. And whenever one finally realized that he had been shot with something small, he is already suffocating, and could not communicate the fact to the other officers gathered around him.
Any CCP operative captured by the Japanese endured perhaps the most horrific tortures ever inflicted upon human beings in the history of warfare. The Japanese were almost maddened in their attempt to find out why so many of their commanders were dying off, the more frustrated they got, the more brutal they became. Entire towns being burned alive or placed in barbed wire pits and infected with plague bacteria were not uncommon, as the Japanese used all methods possible to force the civilian population to give up covert agents and guerrillas hiding amongst them.
Such brutalities only strengthened resistance against them, and more and more people joined the guerrilla movement. Some individuals like the hero and marksman Ling Jienfong took up arms against the Japanese on their own terms, not affiliated with any CCP or other resistance unit. Ling Jienfong was especially skilled with his two pistols, and his favorite method of attack was to ride his horse straight into the midst of a Japanese encampment, firing left and right, usually at one shot one kill ratios, before riding off into the night again. He was not affiliated with the CCP and the only accounts of his missions were recorded in his diary entries. According to his diaries unearthed from their hiding place by the Chinese government in the 1990s, he had amassed over 300 enemy kills over a particular 1 year period. From 1940-1944 he has killed over 700 enemy soldiers and officers. Always operating by night, always riding by night, always as fast and elusive as a ghost. Ling Jienfong died before the war ended, but even to this day, historians were not sure how he died. Some say he was killed in action, but the most probable cause of death was probably cholera or typhoid fever, since his last entries often talked about a debilitating illness, and high fever.

Like Ling Jienfong, there are so many unnamed heroes who perished during the war. However, after the liberation of China by the Communists in 1949, throughout the Great Leap Foward and the Cultural Revolution years, these unnamed heroes were seldomly discussed, since the top priority of the new government was to rebuild the war ravaged nation and focus aid and benefits for it's citizens. However, after the Cultural Revolution, when Comrade Marshal Deng Xiaoping came into power in the 1980s, the stabilization of the nation is complete, and more time can be put into historical and archival research. So much information was unearthed, that historians weren't sure of how to broadcast their findings to the public. Since the late 1990s to today, a wide variety of stunning and emotional, often heart-wrenching TV series were made, based on the unnamed heroes of China during World War II and the Motherland Liberation War of 1946-1949, and the unspeakable horrors and tests of the soul and body that they faced, as well as their success in fighting and destroying the enemy. I wish I could put up some of these TV serials up here so I can share them with everybody, but I am not that good at computers, perhaps someone can enlighten me.

Today, if you go to Beijing, and enter the People's Liberation Army Museum, in one corner of the exhibit on World War II military campaigns, rests a velvet covered table. On that table is a tiny artifact that saved so many lives during the war and created such a huge impact, although most historians outside of China seldomly know about it. It looks like a pistol, in fact, it is a projectile weapon, although it is tiny, so tiny it might pass off as an odd-looking cigarette lighter of the 1930s, but the missions it carried out is tremendous and decided the fate of a nation. There, on it's velvet table, it sits, every night, waiting for the dawn of the new day when people of all ages could come in, look at it, hear it's stories being told by an orator, and learn history from their visit. Hopefully, they might meet some veterans from the War as well, such as my Great Uncle, and learn about things that even college level classrooms do not fully teach, or even understand.

Somewhere outside, the sky is beginning to turn blue, silhouetting the massive towers of Tiananmen Square and the Renmin Dahuae Chang. In the predawn silence, a lone bugler blows a long and beautiful note. From the gates of Tiananmen, right underneath the portrait of Comrade Mao Zedong, a company of People's Liberation Army soldiers marched, slowly, solidly, and firmly, carrying in their gloved hands, the sacred Five Starred Red Flag.
Within minutes, that flag would be flying high in the cool northern breeze. A new day has began.................................................................
For us, the human race to succeed in conquering both evil within and outside of us, and truly succeed in our quest for freedom and freedom for our future generations, the continuing study and research of history is a priceless goal. Without understanding it, we would wallow in darkness forever.

WEI DA DE ZHONG HUA RENMIN WANSUEI!!!
 
Well, now, Rachen – The question at hand, was whether parlor guns are fun, or just stupid, as I recall. ;)

You remind that much, of what we have come to take for granted, found its original basis in the blood and sweat of our forefathers. Most all of our forefathers. Your stories are appreciated for this.

Am reminded of the use of air-powered arms, by resistance fighters, in Belgium, during the Second World War. Such having been placed in use at a time, when most had been forced to surrender their powder-charged weapons.

Really reflecting upon it, some of the most innocuous items we take for granted, on a daily basis, have their origins within some manner of expedient need for survival. Sobering? Yes. Necessary reminder? A resounding Yes.

It’d be greatly appreciated, should someone more well versed than I, assist this gentleman in making available, access to the TV serials, mentioned within his posting. Otherwise, I’ll have to have a go at it. And, we know how that’ll turn out, don’t we? :D
 
I studied martial arts and Chinese medicine from a man that killed a Japanese Officer with a knife he made from putting a motorcycle spoke on the train track and wrapping a rag around one end for a handle. He did this when he was sixteen in Shanghai. He got famous for his work with the underground and Chang Kai brought him inland.

He told me about leading men into battle against the Japanese. The men he lead were farmers yesterday and today were solders. So to get their courage up he would expose himself on the berm and taught the Japanese to shoot him. He said he would listen to the sound of the bullet and turn aside at the last moment. When he first told me this I thought "Yea Right." But then he started showing me the scars where a bullet had nicked him. He had quite a few. He ended up pulling back to Taiwan with Chang Kai and became the head of the secret police. Sort of like their CIA. I studied with him for a long time. Ended up an Acupuncturist and teacher of martial arts.

If one spends enough time studying the history and politics of Asia one realizes that there are no "good guys." Mao is not a good guy, Chang Kai is not a good guy, Hirohito is not a good guy. They are all blood thirsty. Asia has been soaked with blood for a very long time.
 
You guys are great. I think some of you have been hanging out next door, at the General Store. There are not many places you can go and have a long discussion over toothpicks. BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW! Great reading:uhoh:.
Keep it up, you are going to drive the politcal correct crowd crazy:D
 
It’d be greatly appreciated, should someone more well versed than I, assist this gentleman in making available, access to the TV serials, mentioned within his posting. Otherwise, I’ll have to have a go at it. And, we know how that’ll turn out, don’t we?

I have an entire collection of Chinese TV serials based on World War II and events around it. All I need is a channel to share them with others.

On of my favorite ones is called "Da Dao Xian Guay Zhemen de Tuo Zhai Kan Chiu". It is about the use of the feared broadsword against the Japanese army. It is 28 chapters long, and it also includes vast information on how the blades of both Japanese and Chinese swords are forged. The series is heart-wrenching, filled with perhaps the most accurate depictions of the era you will ever see, and of course, the battle scenes are vicious.

These below are actually clips from the series, posted on Youtube by a guy from the Chinese mainland.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC2_HfkXc4g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro030fI1Vs8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7tcl8_goQE
Sorry, I posted the same link twice. Corrected the last item. The last clip shows the end of the battle and the retreat of the enemy.

These are scenes from one battle fought on December 18th, 1933, when the Japanese violated their 'Manchukuo' Treaty and invaded the mainland. The Guomingdang 29th Army Group engaged the enemy and absolutely destroyed them, the first major Japanese defeat in the Asia war.

WARNING: The following scenes are particularly brutal and may affect sensitive people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBjAn0a_ZUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzRAs7gB20A

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I studied martial arts and Chinese medicine from a man that killed a Japanese Officer with a knife he made from putting a motorcycle spoke on the train track and wrapping a rag around one end for a handle. He did this when he was sixteen in Shanghai. He got famous for his work with the underground and Chang Kai brought him inland.

He told me about leading men into battle against the Japanese. The men he lead were farmers yesterday and today were solders. So to get their courage up he would expose himself on the berm and taught the Japanese to shoot him. He said he would listen to the sound of the bullet and turn aside at the last moment. When he first told me this I thought "Yea Right." But then he started showing me the scars where a bullet had nicked him. He had quite a few. He ended up pulling back to Taiwan with Chang Kai and became the head of the secret police. Sort of like their CIA. I studied with him for a long time. Ended up an Acupuncturist and teacher of martial arts.

WOW! That is the most awesome thing I ever heard. He has to be a very advanced martial artist, since these skills, even though it is possible, is not something anybody can do. In my opinion, it doesn't matter if he is Guomingdang or Communist, anybody who will fight for his country and preserve his national heritage is a true hero. The videos I posted above were made in Mainland China. Many people would think that the CCP would be very biased in it's media, however, this, and many other series and movies, are made from a Guomingdang point of view. There are many valiant Guomingdang soldiers and officers who died defending the country during the Anti Japanese War.
And I also agree with you Misfire99, about your take on the history of Asia. Asian warfare is particularly brutal, and World War II in China was perhaps some of the most vicious combat the world has ever saw. As a history student, I also try to be as unbiased as possible and see the events in general, research terms.

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You guys are great. I think some of you have been hanging out next door, at the General Store. There are not many places you can go and have a long discussion over toothpicks. BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW! Great reading.
Keep it up, you are going to drive the politcal correct crowd crazy

Thanks Lon. Remember, the gun is great, that is why we have our cherished 2nd Amendment in the first place, but is not the only thing we can rely on to defeat evil in it's many forms. Ever since I took up Wushu a long time ago, I came to respect the awesome power and effectiveness of the blade. Or a bamboo clothespole, or even a pair of sharpened chopsticks.

The political world is filled with confusion and misinformation. Some people misuse guns, and some people have tendencies to blame us, the law abiding gun owning population. And then, some people think guns are bad and evil and such, but they don't realize that it's certain people who go berserk, not an inanimate weapon.
 
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Have you considered contacting the folks at the History Channel (or, the like), about these? They look to be very well made films. That’s the impression I get, without even the benefit of speaking an Asian language. Definitely something worthy of being shared, in their entirety.

Unfortunately, I know of no other media, which might present the films on such a scale, as are these.

Again, maybe some of our other members will have an idea, or two, which may be more helpful…

Thank you for sharing them with us.
 
Have you considered contacting the folks at the History Channel (or, the like), about these? They look to be very well made films. That’s the impression I get, without even the benefit of speaking an Asian language. Definitely something worthy of being shared, in their entirety.

I personally think that it will be a great cultural exchange project between the United States and China. After all, we broadcast many of your TV shows in the Mainland as well. Especially now, "John Adams" will be extremely popular with Chinese viewers, since we absolutely love anything that depicts historical events. If such a cultural exchange project can get under way, it will help the people of two great nations eliminate any misinformative opinions they might have towards each other and strengthen the ties of friendship.

Now:D:D:D regarding our thread about parlor pistols: I know of one just newly made TV series about the Communist underground network in Shanghai during the War years. The series is about the underground guerrilla movement and how it carried out tactical operations against the occupying Japanese army. Very similar to "Carrier of the Red Lantern", which is about a railroad worker in Manchuria who, at the onset of the war in 1937, became a spy for the Anti Japanese guerrilla army. He used his red lantern to send messages
to the guerrillas regarding enemy troop movements and coordinate their fire. The new series I am talking about is called "Special Operation Code 011", and it is just starting to play in China. Within 3 months, the DVD will be available for sale in Chinatown. I am going to get it as soon as it reaches the shelves. Many of the covert agents' missions will be retold, including the weapon that the Japanese officers are most terrified of, the virtually silent killer.

Thank you for sharing them with us.

You are very welcome, Perk, and everyone else here.

The following clips are from the same series, towards the end, when the hero Cheng Yu and his elder brother Cheng Long embarked on their final mission to find and exterminate the Japanese master-agent Shan Dao, who had orchestrated thousands of murders during the first year of the war.

What you will see is pure, unadulterated martial arts action between a master of Wushu and master of Ninjutsu, two of the most feared combat arts. To parents of our younger viewers here: the material is extremely graphic. May offend more sensitive people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk0OTTzgmuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCCXL8NfSns

What you see at the end of the second clip is the 8th Route Army training in Wushu broadsword skills at Yunan Soviet. The year is 1938. The war has just started, and these troops are about to be deployed to stop the Japanese invasion into Szechuan and Shaanxi. Somewhere in there is my Great Uncle's unit! Advance to Pingxingguan!:D
 
Here is the link I meant to post in my previous post, but I posted another one twice.
Here it is:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7tcl8_goQE
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When the war began again in 1937, and the Japanese began to shell Shanhaiguan, the 29th Army was mobilized again to fight the invaders and preserve the cherished freedoms that the Revolution of 1911 embraced. The 29th Army is one of the Guomingdang divisions that sided with the people's cause. Here, people all over the capital city Beijing is signing up to fight. When Cheng Yu askes the new recruits: "What are you fighting for?". Their answer is "For our people, for our nation, for our freedom!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2TUyiOIcSU

The siege of Beijing begins. The first shots of World War II has been fired at Luguochiao.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp8XlmIV3y0
The battle for the city begins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exsVbSDkjsM
The massacre at Luguochiao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKggWfg-mVY
Cheng Yu finds out what happened at Luguochiao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKggWfg-mVY
Avenging the massacre of Luguochiao at railroad bridge. A special team of troops gather for a suicide mission into Japanese lines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVA1vhFnXjU
Avenging the massacre of Luguochiao. 29th Army engages Shan Dao's troops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYQQjkWtSTA

According to Japanese code of ethics, soldiers who failed to succeed in a mission were punished this way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrv1GKSSjOM



--------------------------------------------------------------------------In the near future, I will be posting several scriptures on this site regarding the combination of Wushu combat skills with pistol skills. I have researched and practiced the topic for several years and I finally want to release my work and have it discussed amongst my peers and friends here.
 
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Rachen: The story of Sifu moving out of the way of the bullets is only part of the tail. He told me that he single handily attacked and captured a Japanese machine gun emplacement. He said his shout, or in Japanese his Kiai, was so fierce that the three guys behind the sand bags froze. That was enough for him to get over the bags and kill them all with a BIG KNIFE also called a Da Dao. Many years ago a modern Japanese magazine did a story on him. He had so much of a price on his head that now they are doing a story about what he's doing after the war.

When the movie "Marco Polo" had just come out Sifu didn't have a color TV. So a bunch of us from the school went down the street to the "Old West" bar, a real dive. He tipped the bartender two dollars and asked if we could watch Marco Pollo on the color TV. Well nobody tips the bartender in this dive. The bartender put the TV on the end of the bar and told all the drunks to get to the other end of the room. We sat there drinking beer and watching the movie. Sifu had had a few and was enjoying the sweeping vistas of China. Well the Japanese actor Tashiro Mafune was playing the part of a potter in a scene right after one of the sweeping vista shots. Sifu was out of his chair in a shot. He pointed at the screen and shouted "THAT MAN JAPONESE" he turned and looked at me and shouted "ONE TIME THIS HAND KILLED SIX JAPONESE" as he waved his right hand in the air. Then he realized where he was and who he was with, a bunch of girls from the school where with us, and sat down holding his beer.

He fought for the Nationalist and his brother fought for the Communists. Because Sifu was such a fierce fighter for the Nationalist against the Communists during the cultural revolution his brother was killed because he had the same family name as Sifu.

His name is Tsuei Wei here is a picture of him, he is a lot older now though:
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One time he told me that he had signed up to fight the Japanese but during the revolution he had to fight Chinese. This really bothered him. It wasn't what he signed up for and he really hated having to do it.
 
4.3mm looks to be a B shot, or does somebody make special pellets for these? They look like fun, though I'd think it would be even more fun to have a revolver rigged up for the same ammunition.

Considering they're not really designed to be horribly accurate, how hard would it be to make chamber adapters in, say, .357 or .45LC to fire a single shot pellet using a small pistol primer? I'd want to use something more common like #3 or 4 buck, but this could easily be as much fun as the plastic practice bullets for quickdraw and point shooting practice.
 
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