G18 Legality

[hatzing]

So is the Glock 18 actually legal in the US? Would I be able to buy one with a class 3 license? And how much would one cost?

 

[Telekinesis]

This should be in NFA, not legal.

Yes, you can own a G18 IF there are any in the registry (there may be a few, but I don't think they are plentiful). The registry for machine guns was closed in 1986, so if it wasn't registered before then, it is not transferable to individuals. Because the supply is fixed, prices are extraordinarily high (a M16 starts around $15,000), and rare examples are typically more expensive if you can even find them (they're all used, so you have to wait for a current owner to want to sell his).

There is no "class 3 license". It is simply a transfer form that gets approved by the ATF for each weapon. If you can pass a background check for a pistol, you can buy a NFA weapon.

 

[asiparks]

depending on whom you ask, there are between 0 and 5 fully transferable G18s on the registry, so the cost would be anyones guess...$50,000 to $150,000 each would be mine.
As they cost around $532 apiece, probably cheaper to become an SOT with the appropriate demo letter then....

 

[Jim Watson]

I searched around and found reports that the G18 was introduced in 1987 which means that there are no transferrable examples.
If so, you would have to have the SOT license and a request for a demonstrator from a government agency. Just being a "class 3" dealer would not entitle you to buy one.

There are some G17 full auto conversion kits out there. I saw one being shot a couple of weeks ago. I do not know if it were transferable or a dealer sample made before the LE request was required.

 

[Trent]

I've rented and shot a G17 converted, at Knob Creek, back in 2009. Even with a stock attached on it (so no chance of limp wristing, and helping to keep rounds in the range, and not a mile down range...), it jammed every 3-4 shots (FTF). Probably bad ammo.

I don't really see the point in a G18. I mean, really. After the first shot the rest are going "wherever".

That's no-good from a liability standpoint.

 

[mboylan]

There is no such thing as a Class 3 license.
People who do not manufacture or sell Title II firearms are restricted to the 180,000 transferable machine guns registered before 1986.
There are no transferable Glock 18s in the US.
You cannot own one without a business, proper licensing and a letter from a law enforcement agency asking for a demo of the product.
The short answer is no way in hell.

 

[dprice3844444]

it's a special occupational tax holder(class 3).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5vYy1YC294 g17 glock 17 selector swith is available to class 3 w/letterhead for under 500 bucks.remove rear slide plate and install.you can switch between 9mms

 

[Bubbles]

I've rented and shot a G17 converted, at Knob Creek, back in 2009. Even with a stock attached on it (so no chance of limp wristing, and helping to keep rounds in the range, and not a mile down range...), it jammed every 3-4 shots (FTF). Probably bad ammo.

We have a conversion registered on Form 2. It definitely needs a stock and foregrip to be controllable, and IMO the Uzi or MP5 is a better subgun platform. No jamming issues with the conversion we have though - it'll turn ammo into brass real fast.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

The ATF really frowns on people becoming dealers for the sole purpose of collecting.

I don't believe there are any transferable Glock 18s you can own with just an NFA tax stamp although there are a few conversions in the registry, they are probably very expensive.

Mike

 

[tarosean]

You cannot own one without a business, proper licensing and a letter from a law enforcement agency asking for a demo of the product.
The short answer is no way in hell.

Not necessarily.. He/She could always move to a country that allows them...

 

[Quiet]

There are no fully transferable Glock 18.

Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits the importation of MG for civilian ownership (non-FFL/SOT. Gov/Mil/LE agency) after Jan 1969.

Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 prohibits the transfer of MGs made after May 1986 for civilian ownership (non-FFL/SOT. Gov/Mil/LE agency).

 

[Midwest]

Not necessarily.. He/She could always move to a country that allows them...

Perhaps Yemen.

 

[Sam1911]

Ok, so the long story is that if the OP isn't planning to move to another country, or become an FFL and SOT2 manufacturer, he's not going to own a Glock 18 or converted 17.

But he can visit someone like Bubbles and play with one any time he likes.