G20 Glock 10MM

[azwizard]

So I have always avoided them, Glocks that is. I've shot them and didn't like the way they felt in my hand. However I have heard that maybe there are things I could do to it to maybe like one. I've heard someone makes a metal frame with a 1911 grip angle? Can they be had with a 6 inch barrel and slide to make it more suitable for hunting? How about single action trigger assy's? Nice adjustable sights, again for hunting apps.?

I pose these questions as I have always been interested in a 10mm but can't justify the purchase, to myself that is as I haven't liked a glock. But I'm still curious.

Also wouldn't I then be able to purchase extra Barrels chambered in .40 S&W and .357 Sig for extra flexibility?

Glock experts chime in, maybe I too will go to the dark side....

 

[Weevil]

I've heard of metal frames for Glocks but not with a different grip angles. Not saying they don't exist, you can get just about anything for a Glock, but not sure why you'd want one unless it was for competition shooting and you wanted extra weight for stability. Not sure if factory mags would work if you changed the grip angle.

They do offer the G20SF also which has a shorter grip from front to back, you might try one of these to see if it feels better in your hand.


Yes lots of 6" barrels available including a factory offering.

Lone Wolf Distributing offers the long slide for them.

Not sure if there are any SA trigger systems but there are lots of aftermarket triggers set-ups that can be had and the sky's the limit on how much you wanna spend on one. Personally I like the stock trigger just fine, it has a very short reset unlike a lot of DAO type pistols, and can be fired very rapidly once you get a feel for the reset point.

Yes you can get adjustable sights factory or aftermarket, plus any other type you might want including adjustable night sights.


And yes you can get conversions for .40 S&W and .357 sig as these are based off the 10mm case, so you won't get the breechface or extractor issues you get with a lot of pistol conversions.


If you like to customize and accessorize you won't find a better platform than the Glocks.

 

[GuysModel94]

Kimber makes a beautiful 1911 in 10mm, handled the gun last week at a LGS and fell in love with it. Don't believe there are any converisions available; after i finish building my AR this may be my next purchase. I believe the model is the Stainless Target II. The Glock models for converisions are the Model 22 and the 31. Both of these allow you to shoot 3 calibers from one gun, the same is true of the Spingfield Tactical 40. I own the 5" XD and bought it for this reason.

 

[NG VI]

1. I've heard someone makes a metal frame with a 1911 grip angle?

2.Can they be had with a 6 inch barrel and slide to make it more suitable for hunting?

3.How about single action trigger assy's?

4.Nice adjustable sights,

1. Yes, CCR or someone makes those frames, but they aren't all that popular. Lone Wolf also makes frames for them, still in polymer but with some difference in the grip you might really like.

2. One of the most common things people do with their Glock 20s, actually, is play with different barrel lengths, there are a good number of different manufacturers making different barrels and a few making long slides for them. Lone Wolf is probably the single best place to go for all of the parts to switch your (theoretical) Glock around to different layouts. I've had superb customer experience with them. Like when I had a problem with one of their .40-9 barrels one of the owners was the guy who took the call and had it fixed and back at my door less than a full five days after I mailed it back to them.


3. They basically are single actions already, just a single action with a little more take-up. There are a ton of different trigger modifications out there for them, almost all are very simple to install yourself and it only takes a few minutes to have a Glock completely stripped out. You literally have to be mentally defective to screw up disassembling and re-assembling a Glock.

4. There are more sights than you will ever know what to do with, for everything from race-gun type fiber optics to holographic sights (which would be pretty sweet for hunting) to ghost ring sights, all types of standard pistol sights, there are scope mounts, one of the reasons Glocks get the following they do is because they have always been easy to modify yourself. make it do what you want.


And there are barrels for the 20 that convert it to .40 and .357, yes, as well as 9x25 Dillon, it's an analogue to the .40/.357. Originally designed for competition shooters who wanted to make compensators do all the heavy lifting they could in taming muzzle rise. It worked. 9x25 Dillon gets some crazy velocities, but for hunting the 10mm is probably a better choice for almost any animal.

 

[Weevil]

You can't shoot 10mm out of the G22 or G31.

The 10mm is a longer cartridge, the shorter .40 or .357 will fit in the 10mm mags but the longer 10mm cartridge won't fit in the shorter mags of the .40 or .357 sig.


You can shoot .357 sig in a .40 with a barrel conversion or vice versa but only the 10mm G20 or G29 will fire all three with conversion barrels.

 

[NG VI]

I'm not sure if there is a 20-9 (or would it be 10-9?) conversion barrel out there or not.

 

[GuysModel94]

Weevil: I was not very clear on the Glock info, the 22 and 31 converision calibers are 40S&W, 357SIG and 9mm. I was unaware that the 10mm 20 can be converted to another caliber. I guess i should also say that 17 in 9mm can NOT be converted "up" to 40 or .357.

 

[Weevil]

The .40 or .357 can use a 9mm conversion barrel but you still have the difference in the breechface width. This is also why you can't go the other way and use the .40/357 in a 9mm, the narrower 9mm breechface won't work with the wider .40/357 cases.

Now theoretically you could use a 9mm conversion barrel in a Glock 20/29 but the problem is that there is no mag that will work in the 10mm's that will hold the thinner 9mm cases. The .40/357 and 9mm's use the same grip frame so it's just a matter of using mags to match the caliber.

The 10mm shares frames with the .45acp and you can get conversion barrels to shoot 10mm out of a Glock 21/30 but once again you can't shoot .45acp out of a 10mm because of the breechface issue. Although you can get a complete upper, barrel and slide, and use .45 mags to convert your G20 to shoot .45acp.

Now there maybe extractor issues with the various conversions as well but I'm not sure without checking the various part numbers on the various caliber models.


However there are no breechface or extractor issues in using .40 or .357 sig barrels in the 10mm's, since their cases are the same width and use the same basic case head as the 10mm cases, and this also means the mags will work although the shorter cartridges will not reach the front of the mag.

 

[GuysModel94]

Most of the threads on the glock forum reported no ramping (feeding) issues as long as you use the correct mag., some did recommend using a 9mm recoil spring. If i understand you correctly, you could convert a 10mm, except there no are mags. available to accomodate the 40 or 357 rounds in a 10mm frame, is this what you are saying?

 

[Weevil]

Yeah If you can shoot a 9mm out of a .40 there's no reason you couldn't shoot it out of a 10mm.

The only difference between the .40 and 10mm is case length [and primer] so there's no reason a 9mm wouldn't work in a 10mm with a conversion barrel.


IF you had some mags that would hold the 9mm cartridges and there weren't any extractor/ejector issues.

 

[NG VI]

The .40 and .357 usually works fine out of the 10mm magazines from what I understand.

 

[Jed Carter]

Get a 1911 in 10mm like a Colt Delta Elite, or an STI, would be a better choice to a Glock Frankengun IMO.

 

[seed]

Glock got the 10mm right with the 20 and 29. Unless you just hate Glock, at least one of these will nicely fill your 10mm needs. Like others have said, check out the SF.

 

[HM2PAC]

I too am a 1911 lover.

I had always wanted a 10mm and so I started looking at all the possibilities. Seemed at the time that all the 1911's, Colt Delta Elites, and S&W's had issues that I didn't want to deal with. Either the price was too steep, the pistol was out of production, or there were reliability issues.

So I looked at the Glock. Ugly thing. Bad grip angle, didn't like shooting them when I had the chance, no external safety.....blah, blah, blah. I could make every excuse out there to decry the beast.

This is somewhat ridiculous, but one day I was watching one of the Jason Bourne movies. It struck me as interesting that regardless of what weapon the fictional character picked up, he used it proficiently, knew the controls, and never complained. It was just a tool, and the master carpenter could use them all.

If a fictional character in a movie could learn multiple firearm platforms, then I could at least learn to use a Glock.

Long story short, I found a used G20 and learned to shoot with it. Price was cheap, Glock has a great reputation for dependability. The frames seem to withstand the abuse. Eats any ammo. Replacement barrels if you want to reload are easy to get.

Think about it for a minute. Can you not learn something new? My bet is that you can.

 

[ForumSurfer]

1. Yes, [strike]CCR[/strike] CCF or someone makes those frames, but they aren't all that popular. Lone Wolf also makes frames for them, still in polymer but with some difference in the grip you might really like.

Neither of which is offered in 10mm...according to their webpage. According to their webpage, CCF doesn't plan on it. Check their FAQ.

The 10mm Glock is on a larger frame than other glocks.

CCR doesn't make frames, but they did make some of the best music of all time.

I didn't like the glock at first, either. I felt the angle was wrong and the trigger was horrible. 500 rounds later and several drills later, and I changed my tune drastically. Now my glock is one of my favorite guns to shoot...but it is still my least favorite to look at.

 

[Mainsail]

As mentioned above, I don't think anyone makes an aftermarket frame for the Glock large frame pistols like the G20 & G21.

I will also suggest you try the SF version. If Glock didn't make the short frame G20 and G29 I wouldn't own one (of each). The standard frame does not feel right at all, but even though they shaved only a little bit off the SF frames, they feel 'right' in my hand.

I like my G29SF so much it's become my primary open and concealed carry gun.

 

[NG VI]

Neither of which is offered in 10mm...according to their webpage. According to their webpage, CCF doesn't plan on it. Check their FAQ.

The 10mm Glock is on a larger frame than other glocks.

CCR doesn't make frames, but they did make some of the best music of all time.

That's the company!

Yeah I wasn't sure if either of them made anything in the large frame sizes, but the last time I saw anything about the it was a while ago.

I too really didn't like Glocks for the longest time, until I was about to get my carry permit and just had to have a .40 with the best size-capacity ratio and I didn't want any less than a 3.5" barrel. Out of everything available it was pretty much the Glock 27 I was left with, so I figured I'd get it for carry in the summer or any other time the USP .40 was too big.

Ended up being one of my favorite guns, the 23 was ok, got a lot of carry because it had night sights, but the 27 was really the one I liked best.

 

[Smaug]

So I have always avoided them, Glocks that is. I've shot them and didn't like the way they felt in my hand. However I have heard that maybe there are things I could do to it to maybe like one.

IMO, you shouldn't have to try that hard to like a gun you're paying $500 for. Look for another gun in 10mm. It sounds like you're more looking for a 10 mm pistol than a Glock specifically.

What guns have you got already? To me, a combat pistol is not suitable for hunting, unless you happen to be presented with a close shot. (like 25 yds. or less) Maybe you're a fantastic shot with a 10 mm Glock and can keep them all in a paper plate at 50 yards.

Otherwise, go the conventional route and get a revolver in 357, 41, or 44 Magnum.

 

[This45Colt]

Here is something like what you may be looking for: *barrel length and aftermarket slide*
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/combat-handguns/ccf-glock-35-40/

However, I don't know if something like this is made for the 10mm/.45 frame size. Also I would agree with Smaug that you may want to look for a different 10mm pistol, or consider a revolver if you were more focused on a hunting role.

 

[0to60]

This is somewhat ridiculous, but one day I was watching one of the Jason Bourne movies. It struck me as interesting that regardless of what weapon the fictional character picked up, he used it proficiently, knew the controls, and never complained. It was just a tool, and the master carpenter could use them all.

I totally agree. Lots of people talk about this gun that gun, they don't like the trigger, they can't deal with the grips, they find recoil in their .40 much easier to manage than their .45, etc...

I'd like to be able to pick up a gun and shoot it accurately. I don't wanna be the guy who gets bogged down in "equipment preferences". Someone who's good is good with everything. To me, a gun is a gun. Sure, they all fit your hand different. The same gun feels differently to different hands. Fire the thing a few times and get used to it, and then you'll be fine.

My tennis instructor can kick my a*# even when we switch rackets. My golf buddy can still beat me with my clubs. Emril can outcook me in my kitchen, and Schumacher can smoke me in my own car. Skill transcends.

 

[NMGonzo]

There is one for sell locally and I am having a hard time NOT buying it.

 

[billybob44]

G20 in 10MM??

I have just done exactly what you are thinking about. Never owned a Glock-my first is a G20. I added the Lone Wolf conversion barrel in the .40 S&W for the use of my large stock of 40 brass.
The 10MM brass is harder to come by, but I have gathered some, and now have loads for .40 S&W and 10MM.
Have not tested yet, but will soon..Bill.

 

[jmr40]

Just buy a Glock. The human hand is amazingly adaptable and will conform to any shape you put into it.

I own Glocks in 3 frame sizes, 1911's, Beretta's, SIGS's, Rugers and Smiths. In the past I've owned almost everything made. My hand easily conformed to all of them.

 

[wow6599]

I'll 2nd the G20, but the SF only......at least for me. I just went out and threw quite a few rds down range over the weekend. Gone is my 3.5# connector (put the stock one back in), it is much more accurate with the LW barrel and I need to increase my recoil spring from 20# to 22#.........I love the G20 SF.

 

[wow6599]

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