Sevenfaces
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I just ordered a G19 yesterday. (my hands are large and it is almost the same size as my G30) I'll have to try some of the ammo mentioned here.
G26- 9mm Carry Ammunition
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DoubleTapDrew
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Same experiences here in my testing. Plus considering they were one of the least accurate "premium" rounds in my 9mm has caused me to give up on them.
Very happy with HSTs so far, plus the fact that they run 50 cents a round versus a buck is nice as well.
Jonah71
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I didn't have a clue about this problem with the Golden Sabers. That's what I've been carrying in my G 26 after replacing the old Black Talon 9mm. (old and outdated I know) I think I'll shoot up my GS's and find something else. I carry the Winchester Law Enforcement rounds in the .40 cal G 23 (supposed to be similar to the Black Talons). Maybe I can find them in 9mm. Or go with the Hornadys like I carry in the Kimber .45.
Don't just take our word for it (we're just from the internet
), do your own testing or look it up, they're pretty notorious for jacket/core separation. Not that it makes the ammo completely ineffective, I just don't want my ammo to do that on a regular basis. If you like the pdx1 ammo in your .40, get some for you glock 26. They make it in 124+P and 147 grain.
Mainsail
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My 9mm is loaded with Federal HST 147gr (not +P).
I prefer to stick with the intended weight for 9mm which is 124 grains. 115 is a bit too light and 147 too heavy IMO. If 125 grains works for .357 mag and sig, then why does it makes sense to use 147 grains for a caliber that launches the bullet even slower?
I use +P ammo for guns that I can get a full grip on, not sure yet if I like it for small guns with only a two finger grip because of the extra recoil. I generally prefer +P for 9mm because it is a small bullet, and I want to make sure it is going fast enough.
MikeNice
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If you want to try something a little more obscure try the Federal Tactical Bonded. It is a 135gr+P bonded bullet.
SlowFuse
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I have to say that the 9bple people have mentioned in this thread is my carry ammo. Its a 115gr +P+ but from my crony its not any faster than a regular +P 115gr pill. Very accurate out of my G26 though, and not hard to control at all.
I carry NATO 124 FMJ in mine. I pray to God that I never have to shoot anybody but it does seem to work of for the military on human targets. I really don't think a bad guy will care what I shoot at him either. My logic is that round nosed bullets work better in auto-loaders and auto loaders were designed around round nosed bullets. Round nosed bullets have a 100 year proven track record also. Call me old fashion if you must. It's just my thing!
ChCx2744
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w2fnt, there's nothing wrong with that. You may not have much energy transfer from FMJ, but they are very reliable, technically speaking, even more so than any HP. I personally prefer JHP loads as SD loads, but that are people that use FMJs and there's nothing wrong with that. Hell, as long as you know where to put your shots, you may not even need more than 1 shot!
In my Kahr, the Corbon DPX did the best vs other brands
I did the test done on youtube using 5 different brands of HPs
(shooting into milk jugs filled with wet newspaper, with 4 layers
of denim on the first jug)
I tested for expansion and penetration
The Corbon was the top perfromer with fantastic penetration (15 inches) and wide expansion, at nearly 3/4 inch (better performance than many 40 cal rounds)
I did the test done on youtube using 5 different brands of HPs
(shooting into milk jugs filled with wet newspaper, with 4 layers
of denim on the first jug)
I tested for expansion and penetration
The Corbon was the top perfromer with fantastic penetration (15 inches) and wide expansion, at nearly 3/4 inch (better performance than many 40 cal rounds)
Lucky 7
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I'm using 127gr +P+ Rangers in my 9mils (including the G26). In the G26, it'll make you grossly aware you're shooting a defensive round and it's quite accurate. I've refrained from killing jugs, newspapers, and phone books with my carry ammo (no magic round and media tests don't translate to real world results) but the Rangers have fed every time.
w2fnt
Where did you pick up those NATO spec rounds? I've been looking for a few weeks and can't seem to find any.
Regards,
Lucky
w2fnt
Where did you pick up those NATO spec rounds? I've been looking for a few weeks and can't seem to find any.
Regards,
Lucky
MikeNice
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Lucky, NATO spec is standard pressure plus 10%. In the civilian market it is commonly known as 124gr+P. Any 124gr+P FMJ should be pushing at NATO spec.
Here is a link for LE ammo loaded to NATO spec. It is Winchester Ranger ammo with 9mm NATO in big letters on the side. It should be good stuff. Plus you can get a whole case (500) for about $170 shipped.
Here is a link for LE ammo loaded to NATO spec. It is Winchester Ranger ammo with 9mm NATO in big letters on the side. It should be good stuff. Plus you can get a whole case (500) for about $170 shipped.
Lucky 7
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MikeNice
Thanks for the link. I used to shoot NATO spec all the time in the Corps and was looking for some to use in my Camp Rifle. The problem, locally, is the lack of vendors carrying FMJ +P because it's not the newest whiz-bang, nuclear-tipped, super-carry ammo.
Thanks for the link. I used to shoot NATO spec all the time in the Corps and was looking for some to use in my Camp Rifle. The problem, locally, is the lack of vendors carrying FMJ +P because it's not the newest whiz-bang, nuclear-tipped, super-carry ammo.
The military would use better bullets if they weren't limited to FMJ by the Hague convention. Why do you think police all use JHPs in their duty pistols? The only advantage of FMJ is penetration, which is going to be excessive for a self-defensive shooting situation.
amd6547
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My G26 is loaded with 10 127gn +p+ Rangers, with a 15rd G19 mag reload of 124gn FMJ NATO. I figure if I burn through the JHP, I want 15 penetrating FMJ to defeat cover and break contact.
I switched to critical defense loads in my wheel guns have not tried them in 9mm; but every thing I've seen them shoot into would lead me to believe it will perform
Flawlessly. Take a gander at them they are nothing to sneeze at. Hope this helps.
Flawlessly. Take a gander at them they are nothing to sneeze at. Hope this helps.
I wouldn't concern myself too much with group size for a SD carry round, anything under 4-5"- @ 25 yds would be more than sufficient for that purpose. Since HPs of all brands often fail to expand in actual shootings, I opt for optimum functional reliability over any other factor in each my carry guns. For me that means 95 grain Hydroshoks for a Keltec .380, and 185 gr Silvertips for a 1911 .45 on those winter days when I'm mostly outdoors and can carry it all day under a coat or jacket.
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