Garand Reload Data

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I've been using 46.5 to 49 grains of 4895 with 147 to 150 gr FMJ's for
my Garand reloads. I have run about 200 rounds thru my 50's era CMP
rifle. Your thoughts?
 
I go about 47 gr of IMR-4064 with surplus M2 bullets. I scored 1000 of them last year and figure that's going to be close to a lifetime's worth as little as I shoot.

Your 49 gr load of IMR-4895 seems a tad high, but don't quote me on that or let it cause you alarm.
 
I'll post the loads I used recently. It was 4064, but can't remember the grains.
But, I agree with 45LC above, Keep those Garands shooting!
A couple of weeks ago I was in my local indoor range/gun shop (South Florida) and somehow the subject came to the Garand. The 3 range/counter guys (mid 20s) mentioned that they had never shot one or had an opportunity to really handle one. So, I asked if they wanted to shoot one. Of course they said yes.
So, last week I brought it out with around 50 of my loads. The range is only 25 yards, but they each got to shoot a couple of clips through it. They all had face splitting grins and were really appreciative. One of them told me, "I can scratch that off the bucket list."
That Piiiing still makes me smile.
 
I've been using 46.5 to 49 grains of 4895 with 147 to 150 gr FMJ's for
my Garand reloads. I have run about 200 rounds thru my 50's era CMP
rifle. Your thoughts?

First off, you need to say whether it is H4895 or IMR 4895. Makes a difference.

My load for H4895 is 46.5. With 46.0, I got some failures to feed.
 
First off, you need to say whether it is H4895 or IMR 4895. Makes a difference.

My load for H4895 is 46.5. With 46.0, I got some failures to feed.
I have shoot hundreds of rounds of 30-06 made with 46.0gr H4895 under a 150gr M2 bullet with no failures at all. A charge of 46.4gr H4895 will duplicate the Greek M2 ammo being sold by CMP. IMR4895 is slightly slower than H4895 and because it is I usually use a starting charge of 47.0gr IMR4895 under the same 150gr M2 bullet and usually load the classic 47.5gr IMR4895.
 
Many, many years ago, for my Garands I settled on:
47.5gr IMR4895 with 147-155gr bullets
47.0gr IMR4895 with 168-170gr bullets
46.5gr IMR4895 with 173-175gr bullets.

Don
 
When I started loading for Garand I stuck at 47 gr of IMR 4895, 150gr fmj, CCI #34 primer.

The rifle seems to run just fine right there...so I have not changed.

They are fun to shoot!

Mark
 
When you begin to expand your loadings:

M1 loads (Courtesy of the NRA) has some good and useful load data.

I personally like shooting the 168 grain Sierra Match King bullets using IMR 4895 44.5 gr. to 46.5 gr.

When shooting 150 gr. FMJBT bullets I like VIHT N-135 and also like Accurate 2495.
VIHT N-135 44.9 gr. to 46.9 gr.
AA 2495 42.6 gr. to 43.6 gr.

I also like the CCI BR2 primers or the CCI #34 primers.

Ron
 
...46.5 of IMR4895 w/ 150 gr. bullets, which duplicates military loads.

Actually, that would be a very light load. 1965 manufactured M72 Match ammo used 46.5gr of IMR4895 behind it's 174gr bullet for a velocity of 2640fps.

Don
 
I load 150 grain serria or any other 150 gr. jacketed bullet over 53 Gr. of H-380. i think that is really close to the original load and I have fired well over 1000 rounds of it without ill effect. from a International Harvester M-1 Garand.
 
I inherited my older brothers M1 match Garand. It's a Springfield reciever w/lots of Intl.Harvester parts and "BlueSky" barrel and the densest walnut stock I've ever seen (heavy!). And it's glass bedded, ect.
He had detailed notes in his loading manual and shooters log.
This gun according to him preferred 45.5gr of IMR4064 under a 168gr MatchKing. He tried Varget, IMR3031, H and IMR 4895. He also had a Rem. 700 bolt gun that preferred the IMR4064 loads; but he used H4350 for his mule deer/elk loads.
He used the same powder charge with a 125gr Sierra Spt using same bullet seater setting.
He won the rapid fire stage in the 1988 Montana state championship with the 125gr bullets shooting against a National Guard team shooting Match AR15's.
He called it his "recoiless" M1 rapid-fire load.... 10lb rifle w/reduced velocity loads to match the zero of his "long range/slow fire loads....
What a concept !!!

I still have the gun, and a bunch of ammo he loaded up in the late '80's and early '90's with match king bullets as well as some "service" gun ammo with 150gr Hornady FMJ's that he claimed were "accurate"... meaning MOA or better...

really miss my brother though !!!! a glioblastoma got him in '12
 
I inherited my older brothers M1 match Garand. It's a Springfield reciever w/lots of Intl.Harvester parts and "BlueSky" barrel and the densest walnut stock I've ever seen (heavy!). And it's glass bedded, ect.
He had detailed notes in his loading manual and shooters log.
This gun according to him preferred 45.5gr of IMR4064 under a 168gr MatchKing. He tried Varget, IMR3031, H and IMR 4895. He also had a Rem. 700 bolt gun that preferred the IMR4064 loads; but he used H4350 for his mule deer/elk loads.
He used the same powder charge with a 125gr Sierra Spt using same bullet seater setting.
He won the rapid fire stage in the 1988 Montana state championship with the 125gr bullets shooting against a National Guard team shooting Match AR15's.
He called it his "recoiless" M1 rapid-fire load.... 10lb rifle w/reduced velocity loads to match the zero of his "long range/slow fire loads....
What a concept !!!

I still have the gun, and a bunch of ammo he loaded up in the late '80's and early '90's with match king bullets as well as some "service" gun ammo with 150gr Hornady FMJ's that he claimed were "accurate"... meaning MOA or better...

really miss my brother though !!!! a glioblastoma got him in '12
Just a note on the Blue Sky barrel. Blue Sky was an importer, I don't believe they ever made barrels. You may want to look the rifle over closely. I believe what you are seeing on the barrel looks like the below image:

Import%20Markings.png

What you see above is known as an importer's stamp and they were stamped on the barrel.

The actual barrel manufacturer should be stamped on the side of the barrel and visible by pulling the operating rod back and locking it:

BBL2.png

Winchester manufactured barrels, however, were marked on the top of the barrel:

BBL3.png

Springfield and others were marked on the side:

BBL4.png

So if you have a Winchester barrel the manufacturer will not be visible unless you remove the upper rear handguard. Anyway, you may want to look the rifle over closely and see exactly what you have.

Hope this helps....
Ron
 
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