Garand rifles not coming to U.S.

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I'd love to see these come home, but I hear these rifles are in poor shape. Can anyone confirm that?
 
The CMP forum keeps track of this stuff. As far as I know there are Garands available from CMP but no carbines. The CMP doesn't do imports, only retired inventory from the US Gov't. There are 70,000 carbines in Korea that were blocked by the present adm from import. If you want a Garand your best bet is to buy one from CMP now while they still have some. I have a Korea import carbine. It's a good shooter and I've heard that the Garands are as well.

http://forums.thecmp.org/forumdisplay.php?f=76
 
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akarguy said:
August 29th 2013. Its had a pretty big impact on the CMP as well. Prices have swelled on garlands since. basically he killed the reimportation of these rifles.

http://bearingarms.com/obama-executive-order-on-surplus-military-weapons-intentionally-targets-collectible-firearms/
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The CMP doesn't import firearms...it processes returned firearms that were loaned to countries and then makes them available for sale to US citizens.

I don't think this really impacts the CMP much.

The CMP exists mainly to teach marksmanship anyways, not sell rifles. They've even opened a servicing shop now, thinking beyond rifle sales.
 
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I'd love to see these come home, but I hear these rifles are in poor shape.
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The Korean M1 rifles and M1 carbines were in bad shape when the Korean Army used them 45+ years ago. Some Korean M1 carbines came into the US about 25 years ago, most were wrecks.
 
The Korean M1 rifles and M1 carbines were in bad shape when the Korean Army used them 45+ years ago. Some Korean M1 carbines came into the US about 25 years ago, most were wrecks.
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Correct. The Korean imports were a hit and miss deal. I have one that is close to needing a new barrel. It has had some parts replaced to a point where it is serviceable. Parts are from various other USGI carbines and after market suppliers. Even the Garands that CMP is selling now are not that great. There are no more surplus rifles available in close to unused condition like there were 40 years ago. People are now buying the rifles for the receivers and parts. They can be re-barreled and brought back to good shooting condition. If you want one I suggest you buy one for the receiver, stock and trigger housing and rebuild it from there.
 
CoalTrain49 said:
Correct. The Korean imports were a hit and miss deal. I have one that is close to needing a new barrel. It has had some parts replaced to a point where it is serviceable. Parts are from various other USGI carbines and after market suppliers. Even the Garands that CMP is selling now are not that great. There are no more surplus rifles available in close to unused condition like there were 40 years ago. People are now buying the rifles for the receivers and parts. They can be re-barreled and brought back to good shooting condition. If you want one I suggest you buy one for the receiver, stock and trigger housing and rebuild it from there.
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The CMP M1 Garand I bought a couple months ago was a service grade, Springfield Armory, and it is a WWII receiver rebuilt by SA in '65. It looks awesome and has a near new '49 barrel. Great birch usgi stock too.

They also sell some that have a new barrel and stock, etc.

Any service grade will shoot just fine. No need to rebarrel.

Not sure what you mean by not that great :)
 
Correct. The Korean imports were a hit and miss deal. I have one that is close to needing a new barrel. It has had some parts replaced to a point where it is serviceable. Parts are from various other USGI carbines and after market suppliers. Even the Garands that CMP is selling now are not that great.
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Are parts from aftermarket suppliers up to GI spec?
 
stonecutter2 said:
The CMP doesn't import firearms...it processes returned firearms that were loaned to countries and then makes them available for sale to US citizens.
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Are the Garands and M1 Carbines in S. Korea technically property of our guv that is still on loan to them?
 
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Why?

Doesn't serve much purpose.

Not like Obama being anti-gun is anything new.
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You're always free to stop reading the thread... :)

It's really too bad, even though these might be in bad shape, like the Chinese Mosins that just came through a bunch of shops, I wouldn't mind having a 'project' Garand for $300-$350.
 
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Are the Garands and M1 Carbines in S. Korea technically property of our guv that is still on loan to them?
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I believe (and I could easily be wrong without it crushing my paradigm of reality) that the US government considers the Garands in SK to be loaners and still our property. The SK government considers them Korean property and wants to sell them back to us. That small issue is one of the roadblocks to getting them back.
 
It's really too bad, even though these might be in bad shape, like the Chinese Mosins that just came through a bunch of shops, I wouldn't mind having a 'project' Garand for $300-$350.
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Agree. I'd love to have a receiver I can take to a milling machine and adapt it to a BAR magazine. That's been a fantasy of mine for years.
 
Two things: the reason you are even hearing about this in the first place, is that the Army inspected them, and found them in such bad shape that they didn't WANT them back. That should tell you something. Second, the Koreans got two consignments. One we loaned, the other they bought. It is the shipment they bought that isn't coming back.
 
Why?

Doesn't serve much purpose.

Not like Obama being anti-gun is anything new.
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If he loses the House and Senate to a pro-gun majority in each he won't be able to do anything anti-gun. Then if we keep the issues alive to get a pro-gun President next time, no telling what good things might happen.
 
is that the Army inspected them, and found them in such bad shape that they didn't WANT them back.
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This is completely false!! Were do people come up with this info????
 
jrmiddleton425 said:
Two things: the reason you are even hearing about this in the first place, is that the Army inspected them, and found them in such bad shape that they didn't WANT them back. That should tell you something. Second, the Koreans got two consignments. One we loaned, the other they bought. It is the shipment they bought that isn't coming back.
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I believe this is true. The ones, including carbines, that were blocked were being bought then sold through commercial distribution channels. The second batch of about 85,000 has many that are supposed to be NOS in containers.

I won't tell you how many cases of unissued...Garands...carbines...1911s...Thompson's...etc. are sitting on the bottom of the Pacific one of my high school football coaches jobs was to load in trucks and push over the side of his supply ship at the end of the war. :banghead:
 
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