Garand- safe service load

[GeoDudeFlorida]

My comment was in reply to the poster who said 2700fps is the limit...it's not. And that commercial ammo is dangerous..it's not.

Sounds like a new thread?

 

[Jeremy2171]

Sounds like a new thread?

not up to me. Just responding to posts in "this" thread.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

not up to me. Just responding to posts in "this" thread.

Huh??? That makes zero sense but, whatever.

Anyway, I'm still not 100% clear if the OP wants to have his family shoot full power loads or light target loads. I had assumed light target loads but could be wrong.

 

[Jeremy2171]

I'm still not 100% clear if the OP wants to have his family shoot full power loads or light target loads. I had assumed light target loads but could be wrong.

in the end it's not much difference.

To make really light light loads use 110s or 125s and 3031

 

[mdi]

Reread my posts. The actual 2,700 fps is not a hard and fast limit. It is an indication of approaching damage to the firearm action. In all the face to face discussions, all the forum threads/posts I've read, all the texts, articles, and manuals I have read, none share the opinion of "any 30-06 load is good in a Garand". Upper "standard" pressure, gas volume loads more often than not, damage/bend Op Rods. A 2,700 fps "limit" is a result/indication of good pressure levels. Maybe Hornady did all the testing to include "30-06 Service Rifle" data in their manual just for fun? It's the gas volume and pressure that damages Garand actions, not velocity.

But in real life I don't care what you do to your guns, but it is irresponsible to recommend questionable practices to newer reloaders...

 

[Jeremy2171]

Reread my posts. The actual 2,700 fps is not a hard and fast limit. It is an indication of approaching damage to the firearm action.

Citation needed

In all the face to face discussions, all the forum threads/posts I've read, all the texts, articles, and manuals I have read, none share the opinion of "any 30-06 load is good in a Garand". Upper "standard" pressure, gas volume loads more often than not, damage/bend Op Rods.

Also citation needed

A 2,700 fps "limit" is a result/indication of good pressure levels.

Speculation since 2850fps is also an indication of good pressure levels.

Maybe Hornady did all the testing to include "30-06 Service Rifle" data in their manual just for fun? It's the gas volume and pressure that damages Garand actions, not velocity.

The issue is the hornady garand load data is junk and should be thrown in the garbage along with pineapple pizza.

But in real life I don't care what you do to your guns, but it is irresponsible to recommend questionable practices to newer reloaders...

Except the practices aren't questionable it's just you are uninformed of the reality of the garand and it's ammunition.

 

[Walkalong]

How about y'all quit arguing back and forth since it doesn't help anything, and simply answer the OP's question about his load, is it Garand safe/which primer should he use.

We don't want to damage Op Rods, if you want to argue about that, start a new thread. Velocity, powder speed, pressure at the bleed hole, etc, etc.

 

[Jeremy2171]

How about y'all quit arguing back and forth since it doesn't help anything, and simply answer the OP's question about his load, is it Garand safe/which primer should he use.

We don't want to damage Op Rods, if you want to argue about that, start a new thread. Velocity, powder speed, pressure at the bleed hole, etc, etc.

One more time...

When reloading for the garand...these are the rules.

Use any powder from 3031 to varget/H380.
Use any bullet weight for those powders from 100-220grn
Use any primers as long as they are properly seated below flush. Federals do tend to be softer however.

That's it... nothing special about reloading for the garand.

So yes the OP is fine!

Oprod damage comes from improper lubrication.