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Georgia/SC CCW.

Discussion in 'Legal' started by mcg-doc, Jun 12, 2006.

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  1. mcg-doc

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    I live in GA right on the border with SC. I travel into SC almost on daily bases. Every time I cross the bridge, I have to take off my CCW because Georgia and SC have no reciprocity. Worth, SC doesn’t recognize non-resident permits. So, Utah/Florida route is closed. Does any one know if it is at all possible to get a non-resident permit in SC? I already looked at Packing.org and SC state sites. Both indicate that SC issues only to residents.
     
  2. RealGun

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    I believe you're out of luck. By the same token, I have to have a New Hampshire license to carry into GA. The two states are in a political standoff with reciprocity. I believe the problem is that GA requirements are not close enough to SC requirements, although I don't recall what the disparity might be, perhaps number of hours of instruction.
     
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    GA doesn’t require any training to receive a carry permit .
     
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    There's your answer then. SC residents will not be held to a higher standard than visitors to the State.
     
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    I'm from Fla and my daughter is in N.C.
    I guess this is why there are S.C. welcome centers on I-95.
    Take the gun off, put it on, depending on the direction I'm going. What a pain.
    What gets me is N.C. has reciprocity with Fla and S.C.. But not S.C. and Fla.
    Weird

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    I’m more than willing to take a required course. I just wish I can find a judge to issue me a permit.
     
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    It's one of those issues that no matter which choice you make, there are serious consequences for guessing wrong. Packing with no CCW is wrong. Allowing yourself to become 'fresh meat' is wrong too. What someone does when faced with that conundrum, is up to the individual. I know what my choice would be.
     
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    mcg-doc,

    The most productive suggestion I can make is get with the SC gun rights group(s), if there are any, and work to get the SC law changed to (a) eliminate the training restriction for licencing or (b) eliminate the training requirement for reciprocity.
     
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    Eventually this will be worked out. Georgia has reciprocity agreements with states that require training. It looks like from the list of states on http://www.packing.org/state/south_carolina/ that they are stuck on this training issue. They don't take non-resident either so there is no loophole. Georgia is big on the non-resident issue too.

    I doubt Georgia will require training anytime soon unless it becomes a hot issue. I think they should but I'm not going to push the legislature for it.

    I predict within the next few years there will pretty much be national reciprocity with a few holdout states namely New York and California. I think that training will become required in states that it is not. I can see something like a myriad of exemptions for ex military, law enforcment, people that had a permit before hand, ect.
     
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    The next question is why FL and SC don't reciprocate. Both have the training requirement...that would solve everybody's problem if those two would get it together. My guess is SC (SLED) is the problem...
     
  11. RealGun

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    SLED (state police) has regulatory authority. Their only guideline by statute is "shall issue". They set the standard, not the legislature. There has been discussion about moving to have licensing assigned to another State agency, but it was not a priority to gun advocacy leadership. I am not saying that I disagree with that.

    SLED requires license holders to be "law abiding", and they define what that means. Unfortunately, that means a general respect for the law and then translates into traffic tickets causing your handgun license renewal to be denied. They do a whole lot more than look for felonies. I am not sure what the current standard is for number of traffic tickets in what period, but it was recently made more reasonable, thanks to gun advocates pressure through the legislature. They used to look back 10 years, and now it's only 5.

    I think the problem with Florida may be in the SLED requirement for reciprocal States to provide instant verification facilities. That was a sticking point with other States and eventually brought NC and SC together once resolved. I think that was it anyway, but you get the idea.
     
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    On the 9th of June, a bill was signed into law that allowed SC to issue permits to what they call "qualified nonresidents." Basically, this means that if a person owns real property in SC, but is a resident of another state, they can apply for the SC non-res permit.

    The property ownership thing is a hurdle, of course.

    As for the Florida - South Carolina reciprocity, in addition to instant verification, SLED's requirements (if I read the law correctly) include a training course in which the person fires a handgun in the presence of the instructor. Now, I assume that most if not all of the documents Florida accepts to prove training include that (my NRA course certainly did, for example), but could there be some that don't guarantee the person actually shot the gun in the presence of the instructor? That would be where FL might not meet SLED's "standard."
     
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