Getting a new .45

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My Ruger P345 is wonderful. No issues after 500 rounds when 185 gr began to work like clockwork as the spring loosened up. Never any issues with 230 gr. Since money isn't an issue you can spend lots of time finding The One.
The only 1911 I have enjoyed was a S&W Scandium which belonged to a friend of my son. Very easy to control and return to the target quickly. I do best with what I practice with - not just target shooting but defense drills at the farm range. My Ruger P345 is wonderful. :)
 
I love my 1911's but also love my 2 Springfield XD45's and my brand new XDS. All 3 are reliable, although I've only shot 50 rds out of the XDS so far.
 
I can recommend...

1. HK45
2. HK USP
3. SIG Sauer P220 (older 90's German production)
4. S&W M&P
5. Colt Government Model (one of the newer ones, whether it be an XSE, Combat Elite, or Rail Gun is up to you).
 
I have an HK45 and it is a great gun. Reliable and soft shooting.

XDm's have a good rep. The new Sig 227 is supposed to be good as well.
 
I use to be a 1911 fan boy, and if I had the money and time to maintain and regularly shoot them I'd own a couple. My EDC for 7 years was a Kimber Pro CDP II. If this one gun is going to be a safe queen, stay at home, or HD firearm and money is truly no object I'd look hard at a Wilson CQB, Nighthawk GRP, Dan Wesson Specialist, or Kimber Gold Combat.

If you are looking for a "work"gun to carry and you will use it regularly and absolutely have to depend on it for SD but don't want to tinker, I'd go with either the Glock 21 G4 or Smith and Wesson M & P. I just sold the Smith for the Glock because I don't like the feel (cheapness) of some of the Smiths small parts or the trigger. But M&P Triggers can be fixed and they are reliable guns in the .45 platform. But to me if it fits, the Glock is a hard platform to beat. You don't need to an armorer or hire and armorer to keep one running trouble free., and with the exception of replacing the sights and slide release lever (the stock ones are too small), they are great stock.
 
For a long time I thought the only good 45 was a 1911. After a long run of research and handling, I picked an STI Trojan. I think it is the best value 1911. Certainly there are cheaper options that may run perfectly and more expensive options that have more bells, whistles, and attention to small details but the Trojan felt like the middle ground that was the best of both sides. If the budget were truly unlimited, some of the $3000+ options would be on the list but some form of budget was present when I made my choice.

Then I tried a Gen3 Glock 21SF. I had held the standard 21 before and not been a fan. The SF though felt like holding a G17. Mine had gone through a stippling job and may have had a bit of reduction done as well but it feels very similar to the 17/34 in the frame. The feel is decent, but shooting it is where I was shocked beyond belief. It was far softer shooting than the 1911's I had shot previously. It also has been perfectly reliable to this point. While I don't think I'd grab the standard 21(pre-gen4) due to its size, I'm very happy with my 21SF and won't be getting rid of it any time soon. Mags also are a huge plus. Almost every gun store I've been in carry Glock mags, most having G21 mags. While you can find 1911 mags of some form in about every store, the vast difference from one make/model to the next can be a huge headache if you have a picky gun or like to run something other than ball ammo. Plus the Glock mags seem to last far longer before problems present.

Now I don't have direct experience with other double stack 45s. The M&P45 seems to be the best performing M&P though capacity is down a little bit. The XD is right there with capacity. I'm hesitant on the XD for a few reasons but it seems many people have great results with them. The FN pistols seem like the military pistol we should be using. I'm not sure they are the best choice for a civilian use but they are a great service pistol. If you're looking for a duty pistol as much as a range pistol it would certainly be a top contender. The Sigs tend to have a near cult following so I'm sure they do something right but they haven't impressed me compared to the rest of the market. Nothing wrong with them, just not something I find vastly superior (not to mention the lack of parts/mags locally). HK is another like Sig, but more so. Well built pistols that do for me the same as those that cost half as much. Mags and parts aren't available locally and also cost double what a similar Glock/M&P/XD would cost.

For me, I'd grab either the 1911 that interests you most, or go with a Glock/M&P/XD that best fits you. Parts availability is high, mags are cheap, and most stores stock them for you to handle first. The pistol lines being made today by the big names are all quality pistols. Some do things a little different than others, for better or worse. Any of them would make a fine choice. My use and budget tends to place the Glock/M&P/XD as the best choices for me personally. If you aren't looking to grab a bunch of spare mags locally or don't mind paying the premium for the Sig/HK mags, they too are undeniably nice pistols too.
 
HK45.

Todd Green of Pistol Forum did and endurance test on one and it went over 31,000 rounds fired before it's first bobble!!

http://pistol-training.com/archives/4027

50,000 rounds

1 stoppages 1 (*) malfunctions 1 parts breakages

50,000 rounds in just over eight months.

And yes, as many of you have guessed, that is Larry “LAV” Vickers himself shooting #50,000. It seemed only fitting that the man most responsible for the HK45′s existence be there at the end of this incredible test.

Over the course of the entire test, just one single spring broke. The gun is still perfectly reliable and suitable for daily use. Now my wrists and elbows, on the other hand…

In fact, the HK45 had fewer problems at the 50,000 round mark than either of the previous two 9mm test guns, the S&W M&P9 or HK’s own P30! The HK45 truly is bomb proof, especially when you consider that except for two spring change maintenance cycles, every single part in the gun is original. Most companies recommend changing the recoil springs on their 9mm pistols three or four times more often than Heckler & Koch recommends for the HK45.

The HK45 fired its first 31,522 rounds without a bobble of any kind, another pistol-training.com endurance test record. But the mere fact that it out-performed those other pistols tells only part of the story. I do not believe another .45 pistol could fire that many rounds, in that short a time, with that little maintenance, and survive. Anonymous internet chest-thumpers notwithstanding, fifty thousand rounds of full power 230gr ammo through a .45 pistol in eight months is staggering.

(Actually, in fairness, it was only 49,880 rounds of full power 230gr. I did shoot 120rd of ASYM 185gr National Match Target JHP. Do you think that’s what made the difference? Nah, probably not.)

So what are the final numbers:

252 total days of testing

96 trips to the range
average 520.8 rounds per trip

392 hours of range time
average 127.5 rounds per hour

The HK45 was fired in nine States… and one foreign country, eh?

Twelve different types of ammunition from nine different manufacturers were used:

CCI Blazer 230gr FMJ: 26,185
Federal American Eagle 230gr FMJ: 21,354
Remington UMC 230gr MC: 850
Winchester 230gr Ranger SXT: 542
PMC 230gr FMJ: 600
ASYM 230gr FMJ Match: 124
ASYM 185gr National Match Target: 120
Black Hills 230gr FMJ: 50
Mag Tech 230gr MC: 50
Pro Load 230gr Match FMJ: 50
Winchester (white box) 230gr FMJ: 50
Remington 230gr Golden Saber BJHP: 25
The pistol was only cleaned seven times during the entire test, going 10,181 rounds between cleanings at one point.

My final thoughts on the gun:

Shootability: Let’s face it, nothing else matters if you can’t shoot the gun well. The HK45 proved far more performance-oriented than I gave it credit for at the beginning of the test. High bore axis? Not an issue. Heavy recoiling 230gr hardball? No problem. Sub-2 second Bill Drills from concealment? Hell yeah:
 
Glock 41, or the H&K. Nothing to think about. That new H&K is a dream with the LEM 4.5-7, double action only trigger. The guy at Knights just won the IDPA championships with one. It's like shooting single action only with double action. I could not believe how easy the trigger dropped. I am getting the 9mm, the P30, in the same V1 configuration. But you can pick like 6 different types of set ups.
If you like DA/SA, the gun can be carried like a 1911, cocked and locked. And then you have that snazzy new decocker on the rear of the slide "next to the trigger. The 9 holds 15+1, so I imagine it's an 11 round gun in 45.
But the glocks are perfect also, I have a 30 for 20 years.
If not these two then go with the new custom carry Kimber, it's a 1500 dollar gun, but looks like it's worth it, there is also a more expensive Kimber in the 2's, then Ed Brown Cobra Carry, "another Favorite" for mid 2's. And you can always go Wilson, the sky is the limit.
 
In no particular order: SIG P220/P227, Glock 21 gen 3, or a good 1911

Any gun can kaboom with overcharged ammo or a squib. A Glock 21 that is decently taken care of will probably outlast you and I
 
Both my Glock 21 Gen4's have been great. I bounce between it and the SIG P220. I am contemplating the S&W M&P 45 C as a P220 replacement.
 
Well if your in to poly 45s then I suggest the hk45, fnx45, glock 21 (all kabooms are faulty ammo related), m&p45, xdm45. If you want steel I would say look at cz97 (my personal favorite), or any reputable 1911 maker. That surprises me that you had two bad sigs or I would recommend the p220 as well. That's just odd you have personal experience with a problem prone usp45 and p220, wow that's all I can say. Your not really going to get better 45s than those IMHO. Although there is stories of sig QC failing these days
 
Since you said money is no concern, why not get a full custom double-stack 2011 by STI/SVI?
 
Glock 21 and save the rest of your money for ammo.It will be as reliable as its operator.
 
H&K received a USP45 for a look at to see if it needed anything. Still working...nothing broke...minimal wear...good to go. H&K in starting their inspection noticed the pistol had been fired extensively so the armorers called the original owner and asked how many rounds had been fired through the pistol. The owner replied 297,000+ rounds. No parts breakage and only the recoil spring replaced by manufacturers maintenance specs. The owner...Federal Cartridge Company. They had been using it as a test platform and had also fired proof rounds through it.
 
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Post 36, that is like super impressive durability and hardly a malfunction. Unreal. Thanks for posting that. :D
After reading about the 297,000+ rounds fired in the USP45 by Federal I reached over and patted ny Daughter's HK45 and said..."Good girl." :)
 
Get an older P220 if you don't like the new ones. Mine has been ridiculously reliable through about 15,000 rounds and I bought it used from what I believe was a LEO trade in. So it was likely fired a good bit before I bought it. I had to replace the recoil spring after I had put about 12,000 rounds through it. Other than the short time that spring caused a problem the gun has been extremely reliable and unbelievably accurate. The only thing I don't like is the high axis which gives it too much muzzle flip. It's hard to double tap well. But it's a solid handgun if there ever was one.

3. SIG Sauer P220 (older 90's German production)

That's the Sig I have. It says, "Made in W. Germany" on the slide.

BTW I have a Taurus that has been rock solid and is very accurate. It also holds 10+1 rounds in a pistol the size of a single stack. It has never malfunctioned through about 5000 rounds. I have an XDM in .40 ACP and I don't think it's as accurate as either my Sig or my Taurus. But it's the gun I carry because it holds 16+1 rounds and it isn't that bad for accuracy. I had some problems with it when I first bought it (used) but Springfield fixed it perfectly and got it back to me quickly. It hasn't had any problems since. Their .45's have a solid reputation too.

I love to shoot 1911's but I would rather carry something else because other guns can be simpler to operate IMO. And simple is good when the pressure is on. That's another thing I like about my Springfield. You pull the trigger and it goes bang. No safeties to mess with. No wondering if the hammer is DA mode or SA mode. No uber hard trigger pull. Just a gun with two safeties that are operated by gripping the gun and pulling the trigger. That's hard to beat IMO.
 
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XDm. Improves on the already awesome, in my opinion, XD. My only complaint is they aren't made here, but those Croatians build some nice pistols too.
 
If you want to stay with the 1911, i think any of the Springfields that meet your wants or requirements are as reliable as they come nowadays. I also think the Colt 70 series are worthy of a look. I have some tupperware 9mm but when it comes to 45, I want steel. JMO
 
99.9% of Kabooms are badly loaded reloads.
Meaning, some one got distracted, put a double/triple powder load in,
failed to catch it by weighing the powdered case, and the gun went boom.
You have to be totally OCD/AR to reload ammo, nothing less will do.
Even still, .45's rarely go boom...its not something I'd ever worry about.

.40's on the other hand...1st gen .40's (all manufacturers first attempts) tend to have issues...

That being said, if you worry at all, go find a nice 3rd Gen S&W in .45
and you'll literally be happy you did.
There are a few different models, and thick/thin grips for feel & fit...
lotsa options...and they're all solid metal.

Other awesome option...and I hate to mention it,
because I'm looking for a good deal on one...
is the Star Megastar in .45acp :)
Better than kissing a hot chick on a cold nite...:evil:
 
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