Gifting a handgun to your son or daughter

[dogtown tom]

From what I know you can give your child a gun without needing to make out any paperwork. I have not done that yet but probably will sometime in the future.

There is no exemption in federal law for family members and never has been. If you want to gift a firearm to a family member who resides in your state, just hand them the gun. If the family member resides in another state you must transfer via a dealer in their state or in the case of a rifle or shotgun via a dealer in your state. The firearm must be legal to possess in their state. And as always, state laws may be more restrictive.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Yes, I was talking about family members within the same state. I did know out of state transfers require an FFL.

Thank you for the information @dogtown tom .

 

[wally]

Without a Federal UBC law it all depends on State Law. In Texas its a non issue. I've gifted the Best Man at my wedding, his son for his graduation, my nephew a rifle for his 18th birthday and pistol for his 21st, I've bartered guns for CNC machine shop work, and a painting contractor, etc. I've also been on the receiving end of these transactions.

The Federal straw purchase issue can get sticky, especially with relatives or close friends, just be sure there is no paper trail for a recent purchase and an equivalent transfer of money or services to the giftee. There is no BATFE guidance that I'm aware of as to how long you you have to hold it before its "yours" to be free for sale or trade or gift without being considered a "straw purchase". This is a big issue at gun shows with a wife buying a gift for her husband, he picks the gun, wife/girlfriend tries to buy for it, and all the "straw purchase" alarm bells go off at the dealer's table.

If you are paranoid, just pay the transfer fees and do the background check.

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

No such place to note that on the Form 4473.
You can buy a firearm as a bonafide gift and no federal law requires you to tell anyone that "its a gift".
vs
a straw purchase, where the person filling out the 4473 is not the actual buyer, but buying on behalf of another person.

My mistake...you are, of course. 100% correct.

The instructions for 11.a simply list it as one of the examples of describing who the "Actual Transferee/Buyer" is under the law. You do not have to state HOW you meet that definition.

Question 11.a. Actual Transferee/Buyer:

For purposes of this form, a person is the actual transferee/buyer if he/she is purchasing the firearm for him/herself or otherwise acquiring the firearm for him/herself. (e.g., redeeming the firearm from pawn, retrieving it from consignment, firearm raffle winner). A person is also the actual transferee/buyer if he/she is legitimately purchasing the firearm as a bona fide gift for a third party. A gift is not bona fide if another person offered or gave the person completing this form money, service(s), or item(s) of value to acquire the firearm for him/her, or if the other person is prohibited by law from receiving or possessing the firearm.

 

[doubleh]

I have given a gun or two to family members and have received a couple as gifts. Being older than most on this forum and not up on the "newer" words of the English language "gifted" just sounds dumb to me and would have earned you an "F" grade back in my school days.

 

[.308 Norma]

I have given a gun or two to family members and have received a couple as gifts. Being older than most on this forum and not up on the "newer" words of the English language "gifted" just sounds dumb to me and would have earned you an "F" grade back in my school days.

I wasn't "gifted" with any great scholastic abilities or ambition. Consequently, none of the "F" grades on my report cards were "given" to me - I "earned" every darned one of them.
gift·ed
[ˈɡiftəd]
ADJECTIVE
gifted (adjective)
1. having exceptional talent or natural ability:
"a gifted amateur musician" · "scholarships for gifted students"
synonyms:
talented · skillful · skilled · accomplished · expert · consummate · master(ly) · first-rate · polished · adroit · dexterous · able · competent · capable · apt · deft · adept · proficient · intelligent · clever · bright · brilliant · quick · sharp · perceptive · precocious · advanced for one's age · old beyond one's years · forward · ahead of one's peers · mature
antonyms:
inept · stupid

 

[doubleh]

Guess I should have said "newer" uses of words. Like your post states "gifted" is an adjective, not a verb as so many try to make it now. Apparently correct grammar is not important anymore. I am in no way a scholar in the use of the English language but I do remember a few things from my school years.

 

[citizenconn]

Apparently correct grammar is not important anymore. I am in no way a scholar in the use of the English language but I do remember a few things from my school years.

I have been working as a professor and/or faculty librarian in higher education since about 2001. What passes for grammar these days, even in colleges, makes me cringe. Besides the adjunct college classes in business I teach, occasionally they bully me into teaching dual credit college classes at area high schools, and I am simply flummoxed with the level of students they are giving diplomas. I usually flunk about 50% of these students simply because they refuse to complete the mostly in-class assignments. The others, I have to be very lenient with their writing and spelling skills. It is enough to drive a teetotaler to drink (good bourbon.)

On the other hand my twin 17 year-old nieces just started their senior year of high school, and they are both sharp as a tack. I don't know if they can spell, but they both are academic all-stars and have placed very well with the animals they show in FFA or whatever association they are involved with. So you gotta take the good with the bad and hope for the best, as my Grandma was fond of saving. Personally I blame all my spelling mistakes on autocorrect and the tiny little letters on my phone screen vs my fat, diabetic old man fingers.

 

[doubleh]

Personally I blame all my spelling mistakes on autocorrect and the tiny little letters on my phone screen vs my fat, diabetic old man fingers.

Excellent excuse. Heck, I blame my mistakes using my ipad on being fat fingered.

When I was in grade school back just after the dinosaurs died off we would have class spelling bees. It was a small town and everyone in each grade was in one room. It made for a very large class but some how the teachers managed to give each student the help they needed and there was no b---uh, complaining about class size. I would get tired of standing against the wall and eventually misspell a word just to get to sit down. Now I frequently have to look up the correct spelling of a word. When you get to be 80 things start going to pot and the speed it does it at increases every year.

When I got to eight grade we split into two classes as the school did aptitude tests on all we seventh graders and divided us into regular and advanced studies for our eighth year which they began referring to as junior high. That was a brand new thing back then. Junior high was only that one year as we went over to high school and became lowly freshmen with ninth grade. Back then being a freshman in high school wasn't a pleasant time but eventually the upper classmen wore down and left us alone. I will never forget induction night into the FFA.