Ginex Primers

[kalielkslayer]

This may be redundant but I haven’t seen it before, so here goes.

Another THR member ordered the $499/5,000 Ginex primers from Capitol Cartridge. He messaged me because he was willing to sell 2,000 of them.

Between yesterday and today, I loaded 100 of them.

I fired 7 of them in my “plinking” load; 5.5 grains Silhouette, 1.150 OAL, 124 grain Berrys, mixed range brass.

I didn’t test for velocity or accuracy…..yet.

But all 7 went boom, ejected, picked up the next cartridge, and locked back the slide when empty. Glock 17.

Loading on a Dillion 550C, I noticed they seemed harder to seat than the Federal primers I have been using. The first 30, I felt 2 that didn’t seem right. I inspected them at station #2. Both needed further seating. That isn’t a problem IF I CATCH IT! I easily seated them with my hand primer and moved on.

Today I did another 50. Same issue. I probably had to seat 3 more by hand.

But using “range brass” I sometimes have the same issue. I honestly think it’s more a brass problem than a primer problem.

Next run I’m gonna do 100 with new Starline brass. I don’t think I’ll have a problem.

My other option is deprime and size before tumbling, then hand prime. Let the tumbler run 2.5 hours so the primer pockets are CLEAN!

But I think using new brass will eliminate this issue so that’s the first fix.

PS: If I was loading XTPs, or even Berrys hybrid hollow points for SD, I would use new brass and CCI standard SPPs.

 

[FROGO207]

Those primers are made to metric specs. They are a frog hair larger diameter than US manufactured and slightly harder to insert fully. The same is true of Wolf/Tula, CBC/Magtech, and most other foreign made primers. You just have to account for the extra push to seat. I seat all my primers by hand priming off the press and I definately need to use more pressure when squeezing.

 

[lordpaxman]

Thanks for the info. It’s good to know they work as advertised. Hopefully the more primers on the market the better all around for us.

 

[Targa]

Also if any of that range brass was Sellier&Bellot the primer pockets are a pain in the rear. They make outstanding factory ammo but when I see S&B brass laying around at the range, that’s where it will stay.
I would bet if you do run with your idea of picking up a bag of Starline you will not have a issue seating those primers.

 

[kalielkslayer]

Also if any of that range brass was Sellier&Bellot the primer pockets are a pain in the rear. They make outstanding factory ammo but when I see S&B brass laying around at the range, that’s where it will stay.
I would bet if you do run with your idea of picking up a bag of Starline you will not have a issue seating those primers.

I have a couple 500 piece bags of Starline. I think I have some new Sig brass too but that may be in another caliber.

Being Easter and the grands coming over today, I may not get to it til tomorrow but I’ll do 50-100 which should give me a sense of how easy they are to insert.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I finally had a chance to try out the Genix primers I picked up a while back. I thought they were at fair market value at $575/5k and quite reasonable when the price fell to $475...especially since they'd allow you buy 15-30k at a time

My match ammo is usually loaded with CCI for 9mm and Federal for revolvers...for the consistency they offer...but thought I would load some in 9mm, with N320, for practice and local matches until I built up some confidence for them in bigger matches.

I was chronoing my ammo for an upcoming match and took the opportunity to compare how the Genix compared to the CCI . The Genix primed ammo chrono'd very comparably with the CCI primed ammo. I ran about 40 rounds thorough my lightly tuned S&W M&P9 and had no issues with the Genix primers igniting.

I loaded another 400 rounds and they all loaded smoothly in mixed headstamp cases. The only issue I had were a couple of cases where the primers had previously been crimped. I don't think priming on my progressive felt and harder or easier...I lube my cases before resizing, so any additional force needed would have been noticed. I case gauge all my ammo in a Hundo and all the primers appeared to be evenly seated.

I have a couple of matches this coming weekend and will report back as to any issues which may arise

 

[jedred1]

I just got my brick of 5k last night and reloaded some today. Can't wait to go shoot them. They where tight in the pockets (Win, X-treme, Rem.) I mostly use x-treme or Remington shells for reloading (9mm) usually with Winchester small pistol. If these work well they will be my new go to but I would like a shell that fits better.

 

[jedred1]

So far no problems with the small pistol primers but now I'm on my last 400 of large pistol primer. I load for 45 ACP but I don't shoot it as much as my 9's. What has your experience been with Genix for large pistol been.

 

[peeplwtchr]

This may be redundant but I haven’t seen it before, so here goes.

Another THR member ordered the $499/5,000 Ginex primers from Capitol Cartridge. He messaged me because he was willing to sell 2,000 of them.

Between yesterday and today, I loaded 100 of them.

I fired 7 of them in my “plinking” load; 5.5 grains Silhouette, 1.150 OAL, 124 grain Berrys, mixed range brass.

I didn’t test for velocity or accuracy…..yet.

But all 7 went boom, ejected, picked up the next cartridge, and locked back the slide when empty. Glock 17.

Loading on a Dillion 550C, I noticed they seemed harder to seat than the Federal primers I have been using. The first 30, I felt 2 that didn’t seem right. I inspected them at station #2. Both needed further seating. That isn’t a problem IF I CATCH IT! I easily seated them with my hand primer and moved on.

Today I did another 50. Same issue. I probably had to seat 3 more by hand.

But using “range brass” I sometimes have the same issue. I honestly think it’s more a brass problem than a primer problem.

Next run I’m gonna do 100 with new Starline brass. I don’t think I’ll have a problem.

My other option is deprime and size before tumbling, then hand prime. Let the tumbler run 2.5 hours so the primer pockets are CLEAN!

But I think using new brass will eliminate this issue so that’s the first fix.

PS: If I was loading XTPs, or even Berrys hybrid hollow points for SD, I would use new brass and CCI standard SPPs.

I've loaded and shot 3k of the SPPs, they all went bang. Frogo 207 summed up the differences accurately. They seat easiest by starting the seating stroke a bit more gently for a third of a second, then full pressure. I loaded 10 or more different headstamped range brass with them, brass has nothing to do with how they seat, unless they are cripmped pockets. But even if they are, Ginex primers survive far better than anything else, because they are hard. The method I mentioned pretty much negates any crimped pocket difficulty. They share my number 1 slot with CCI.

Some glocks have light strikes with them, but that's just another reason I don't own any.

 

[higgite]

Nickel plated or plain brass cups? They make both.

 

[gifbohane]

when I see S&B brass laying around at the range, that’s where it will stay.

Yep that headstamp and Wolf get scrapped.

 

[peeplwtchr]

Nickel plated or plain brass cups? They make both.

Mine are brass.