GLOCK 17 enthusiasts- need advice

[Rsmale1]

Hi everyone. First, thank you for allowing me to join this group. I have a super clean all original GLOCK 17 GEN 1 with the original Tupperware box and 2- original mags (17 rounds). All the paperwork (unopened), and cleaning rods. Ed at GLOCK confirmed it was one of the first 3000 G17's imported to the US. Everything matches and is really clean, especially for a 30+ year old gun. The serial number is AX 10x and has all the Austrian markings. The mags are the one with zero markings on them.
I was wondering do I have something that should be held onto and kept for my boy or is the value any greater due to the rarity??? Any feedback on value or what you think is greatly appreciated!!!
Thanks,
Randy

Spats' Edit: Rsmale1 posted pictures here: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/glock-17-enthusiasts-need-advice.824979/

 

[reddog81]

What's the condition of the gun? It sounds like something that could be worth a decent amount. Those early Glocks have been increasing at a good pace for the last couple of years - at least that's what I've heard.

 

[jmr40]

I can't help with specifics. Most Glocks don't have much if any collector interest, but this is one that would if everything is true. Exactly how much it is worth, or will be worth in the future is hard to say. But I'd not let it go. My GUESS is that early Glock pistols are just now starting to get some notice. Future value might well be considerably more than right now. But that is only MY guess.

 

[Rsmale1]

Near mint. I will attempt to post some pics. Has two very minor wear marks. Hardly noticeable. Super clean. Thanks for the info.

 

[Wisco]

In excellent condition that pistol will command a substantial premium over just about any other Glock. Check gunbroker for similar values, they're well into the $700s sometimes for good condition G17 Gen1 and G19 Gen2 pistols.

It won't lose value. Keep it all together and clean.

 

[Rsmale1]

Here are some pics.

 

[Rsmale1]

Another pic

 

[Rsmale1]

Box

 

[JT-AR-MG42]

I agree with Wisco that values on Gen 1 clean boxed pistols are holding up well.

Looks like your barrel dates to '85?, Sounds like your magazines are the correct type 2s, smooth blank bottom.
All Glock magazines were marked 'Austria' and 'Glock' on the back except the very
uncommon type 1s that were made without the partial metal liner.

Is it a pencil barrel?
You can google it up. Boxed pencil barrel Glocks go for a lot more than standard barrels like the NIB pair I have.
Mine are dated '86 and '88.

Thanks for sharing the photo of your tupperware interior.
My '86 box is identical, i.e. the locating stub for the trigger guard does NOT have
the 'bad idea' wings on it that require the pistol to have the trigger pulled before it will fit back in.

My '88 pistol box has the wings (without the 17 rd. cartridge block).
Same style box for the early 2nd Mod. 19 I have.
Both boxes have a bright orange warning sticker on the interior telling me to
consult the manual before putting the pistol back in the box. LOL

Hard to believe there has not been a lawsuit (that I've heard of) on those later tupperware boxes!

Thanks for sharing,
JT

 

[Rsmale1]

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I agree with Wisco that values on Gen 1 clean boxed pistols are holding up well.

Looks like your barrel dates to '85?, Sounds like your magazines are the correct type 2s, smooth blank bottom.
All Glock magazines were marked 'Austria' and 'Glock' on the back except the very
uncommon type 1s that were made without the partial metal liner.

Is it a pencil barrel?
You can google it up. Boxed pencil barrel Glocks go for a lot more than standard barrels like the NIB pair I have.
Mine are dated '86 and '88.

Thanks for sharing the photo of your tupperware interior.
My '86 box is identical, i.e. the locating stub for the trigger guard does NOT have
the 'bad idea' wings on it that require the pistol to have the trigger pulled before it will fit back in.

My '88 pistol box has the wings (without the 17 rd. cartridge block).
Same style box for the early 2nd Mod. 19 I have.
Both boxes have a bright orange warning sticker on the interior telling me to
consult the manual before putting the pistol back in the box. LOL

Hard to believe there has not been a lawsuit (that I've heard of) on those later tupperware boxes!

Thanks for sharing,
JT

Not sure if this helps?

 

[Rsmale1]

I agree with Wisco that values on Gen 1 clean boxed pistols are holding up well.

Looks like your barrel dates to '85?, Sounds like your magazines are the correct type 2s, smooth blank bottom.
All Glock magazines were marked 'Austria' and 'Glock' on the back except the very
uncommon type 1s that were made without the partial metal liner.

Is it a pencil barrel?
You can google it up. Boxed pencil barrel Glocks go for a lot more than standard barrels like the NIB pair I have.
Mine are dated '86 and '88.

Thanks for sharing the photo of your tupperware interior.
My '86 box is identical, i.e. the locating stub for the trigger guard does NOT have
the 'bad idea' wings on it that require the pistol to have the trigger pulled before it will fit back in.

My '88 pistol box has the wings (without the 17 rd. cartridge block).
Same style box for the early 2nd Mod. 19 I have.
Both boxes have a bright orange warning sticker on the interior telling me to
consult the manual before putting the pistol back in the box. LOL

Hard to believe there has not been a lawsuit (that I've heard of) on those later tupperware boxes!

Thanks for sharing,
JT

Not sure if this is a pencil barrel or not?

 

[bannockburn]

Rsmale1

I also have an early Glock17 but never gave much thought to putting it away as a future collectible. I bought it to shoot and have done quite a bit of it over the last 30+ years. Your call on whether or not it has more value to you as a collector's piece (maybe sell it now and get something else you want), or as a possible heirloom for your son.

 

[JT-AR-MG42]

The magazines you show are type 2s.

You might try a side shot of the barrel without the shadows to
better determine barrel type.
The end shot gives every appearance of being a pencil barrel.

If the gun is indeed a pencil barrel, with the '85 date on the barrel (last letter of the barrel date on the side of the chamber is an 'M'?)
and if the pistol is basically un-fired, value would easily be over 1000.

Guns like described always sell first cycle (for my estimate or more) if there is no crazy reserve set.
There are a lot of Glock collectors out there.
Please remember that I am discussing guns that show no signs of being fired, or very little usage.

A lot of the value is in it's condition. The finish on the early Glock
is very prone to uneven lightening in color from excessive handling or use.

Hang on to it for the boy or sell? Your call.
The pistol will not drop in value, but rather escalate as years go by.
It has been over 30 years now since the Glock was introduced.

I actually expect Glock to make an anniversary 1st gen. run of frames as a throw-back tribute.
Glock would stay with the three pin frame and the slides would be the newer improved version though.
Like any tribute model (take the re-introduced Winchester .95 in .405 for example), the re-production guns
just add value to the originals.

JT

 

[M1key]

Make sure it has had the trigger upgrade parts installed. (safety issue)

Have you fired the pistol? Make sure the trigger resets. Mine bought used wouldn't do so reliably--even with the upgrade. Sold it to a guy who thought he made a BIG score. (not)

just sayin'

M

 

[VA27]

I have CX3XX that I picked up in '89. Carried it on duty before anyone around here had ever heard of Glock. It got me through instructor school and one of my sons-in-law carried it on duty 'til he could buy his own. It's a keeper!
I'd hang on to a NIB one!

 

[tarosean]

Meh... shoot it... It's a Glock you are not going to win the lotto by storing it.
Ive got a "rare" 17 that I shoot all the time. It is/was only worth slightly more than a new glock. Newer glocks (Gen4's) are pretty much a step backwards. So might as well stick with the ol tried and true.

 

[Rsmale1]

The magazines you show are type 2s.

You might try a side shot of the barrel without the shadows to
better determine barrel type.
The end shot gives every appearance of being a pencil barrel.

If the gun is indeed a pencil barrel, with the '85 date on the barrel (last letter of the barrel date on the side of the chamber is an 'M'?)
and if the pistol is basically un-fired, value would easily be over 1000.

Guns like described always sell first cycle (for my estimate or more) if there is no crazy reserve set.
There are a lot of Glock collectors out there.
Please remember that I am discussing guns that show no signs of being fired, or very little usage.

A lot of the value is in it's condition. The finish on the early Glock
is very prone to uneven lightening in color from excessive handling or use.

Hang on to it for the boy or sell? Your call.
The pistol will not drop in value, but rather escalate as years go by.
It has been over 30 years now since the Glock was introduced.

I actually expect Glock to make an anniversary 1st gen. run of frames as a throw-back tribute.
Glock would stay with the three pin frame and the slides would be the newer improved version though.
Like any tribute model (take the re-introduced Winchester .95 in .405 for example), the re-production guns
just add value to the originals.

JT

JT,
Thanks for all the info. I did confirm it was a pencil barrel and the owner of the store said he would give me $750 cash or trade (After stripping it and making a call). When I said I would think about (which I had no intention to do) he said maybe he could go $850. Right there told me to put it in safe and shoot it every so often so when my son turns legal age (5 now) he can have a 50 year old original clean G17. May not go up much more, maybe it will but he will have something very cool to talk about.

 

[Panzerschwein]

The first gen G17s were defective and could explode! Send it to me for proper disposal.

PS: I'm just kidding.

 

[Rsmale1]

The first gen G17s were defective and could explode! Send it to me for proper disposal.

PS: I'm just kidding.

Lol, it's in the mail

 

[Panzerschwein]

Lol, it's in the mail

Really, though, I'd keep it. That is an awesome Glock and very interesting. I think your boy would truly like it someday and depending on his age I'd imagine it will appreciate nicely in time. There will be many new generations of the Glock pistol. There will only be one FIRST generation Glock pistol, and you have it. I am jealous and personally would not want to sell it if it were mine.

 

[JT-AR-MG42]

May not go up much more

Wanna Bet?

You probably ought to write that down, date it, and put the note in the box with the pistol.

We are talking about the pistol of the Millennial generation.
As they age (and acquire more disposable income) the values of guns like the
1st gen. G17 are going to continue to climb.
First gen. 17 longslides, especially the un-ported barrel G17L, are now out of my reach,
the values on them is skyrocketing.

I am also seeing the start of what will be a rapid value rise in boxed early 2nds
that have the two pin frames, along with the 2/3 gen. transition guns.
Value hikes on standard 2nds. with the three pin frame will follow along,
albeit at a slower pace.

Thanks again for sharing the photos,
JT

 

[Rsmale1]

Wanna Bet?

You probably ought to write that down, date it, and put the note in the box with the pistol.

We are talking about the pistol of the Millennial generation.
As they age (and acquire more disposable income) the values of guns like the
1st gen. G17 are going to continue to climb.
First gen. 17 longslides, especially the un-ported barrel G17L, are now out of my reach,
the values on them is skyrocketing.

I am also seeing the start of what will be a rapid value rise in boxed early 2nds
that have the two pin frames, along with the 2/3 gen. transition guns.
Value hikes on standard 2nds. with the three pin frame will follow along,
albeit at a slower pace.

Thanks again for sharing the photos,
JT

Great Advice. I have a early gen2 g19 two pin also. I got excited when Dan at GLOCK said it was a Gen1 dated July 88. When I dug deeper I found out it is dated at GLOCK as a Gen1 but it was right during the transition and has the stippled front and back on the grip which technically makes it a Gen2. I got so excited when he emailed me, but got bummed out when I did more research. It is even cleaner than the gen1 g17. All in all the are very cool guns. It has the pencil barrel as well. Thanks again for your input, you really know your glock!!!! Here is Dan's email that got my blood pressure rising.

GLOCK GEN1 G19 S/N BP243US left 7/88.

With kind regards,

Dan Kuczynski
Technical Service Rep


Phone +1 770 432-1202 x 6774