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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by tpaw, Oct 3, 2007.

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  1. tpaw

    tpaw Member

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    I have a large hand and find that the finger grips on my 19 do not allow my fingers to fit properly, and it is uncomfortable.
    Has anyone ever had this problem, and if so, how did you deal with it?
    I was thinking of sanding them off? Good idea,YES/NO?
    Is there a product (rubber grip or something) that fits over them?
     
  2. AcenJay

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    Maybe the Glock 17 would fit you better, otherwise you could look for a Generation II model without the finger grooves. You could also dremel off the finger grooves and the bottom of the trigger guard. There are some places that may do it for you, like Bowie Tactical Concepts.
     
  3. halvey

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    Get a G17.
     
  4. Ghost Tracker

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    It's no big deal to sand away the finger-grooves on a 3rd Generation G19. There's plenty of frame material left & folks with a big mitt do it all the time. Go search the GLOCKtalk forum. You'll find tons of info to help! Good Luck.
     
  5. 10-Ring

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    Most guns w/ finger grooves either fit you or they don't and there is no point in trying to fix that problem. My suggestion would be to find a 2nd gen 19 w/o the grooves or try a G17 and see if that makes a difference.
     
  6. glockman19

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    Try and find a 2nd generation.
     
  7. BamBam-31

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    I have medium-sized hands, and the finger grooves are a bit squished for me as well. I still shoot it well, so it really doesn't bother me. Go shoot with yours and see if it bothers you at the range. If it affects your performance (it just may well), then your options are:

    --Trade it for a Gen 2 w/o finger grooves
    --Trade it for a 17
    --Get rid of the grooves, either by grinding them off by yourself or sending it away to one of the many places that re-work Glock grips. A search on www.glocktalk.com on grip reductions should yield a list of names....

    You could slap on one of the many rubber grips over the 19 after you sand off the grooves, but I find that they tend to shift around when shot a lot. I've read that a bit of hairspray under the rubber helps installation, and when it dries, it helps the rubber stick (old cyclist trick for handles). My number one solution to a stickier grip is skateboard tape, my number two is a bit of bicycle innertube.

    Hope it works out for you. ;)
     
  8. Surefire

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    Get a G17.

    I have the opposite problem.

    The G19 grooves fit me very well, and the G17 grooves don't.

    In you're case, don't bother trying to remove the grooves... just trade it in for a G17. Or a Gen II G19....
     
  9. CountGlockula

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    With large hands, I'd suggest a full size or standard Glock rather than the compact. Unless it's your main CCW weapon. The G17 is not that bad also.
     
  10. outofbattery

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    I have large hands but much prefer the mid-sized Glocks to the full sized ( I know I'm not the only one) and shoot my 19 considerably better than my 22 ( with 9mm LW barrel even so caliber isn't a consideration).Try a 2nd gen unless not having the light rail is a show stopper.
     
  11. tpaw

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    It's larger and harder to conceal than the 19.
     
  12. tydephan

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    Before permanently altering the grip, I'd try a hogue slip-on grip to see if that helps any.

    Also, I've read examples of folks on Glocktalk using a rubber innertube to slip over the grip. This apparently helps de-emphasis the molded finger indentions and increases positive grip.

    An innertube is about $4. If you buy a hogue, it is about $20. Both of these are a lot cheaper than permanently altering the grip and may make it just perfect for you.

    Good luck to you.
     
  13. karz10

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    Hey, slow down... don't trade that 19 it's a great gun

    I analyzed this situation for me, and found that because my middle finger was jammed up into the trigger guard, it caused the rest of my fingers to be offline a bit on the grip, making everything just a little 'off'

    I shot the gun well enough, but it just wasn't quite right.

    I ran across a thread on Glocktalk, which is apparently down right now, so I can't access it, where a guy sanded out the part where your middle finger goes, making more room for it, and subsequently all your other fingers as well.

    Basically, you take a wooden dowel, about the size of your middle finger, and some sand paper of varying degrees, and hollow out the area where the front strap meets the trigger guard, making more room for your middle finger. Starting w/ a coarse paper, and working down to a very fine paper, to make it production smooth.

    IMO, try to sand out the top part into the trigger guard and the top inside of the front strap, and not onto the checkered part of the front strap, to maintain optimum grip.

    Then if your hands are large, you can add a hogue slip on grip, w/ finger grooves on it, when you do, the design of it, if placed properly, drop the actual finger groove separation down a fraction, making even more room for each finger, while still keeping the same size grip.

    IMO, if you hack off the finger grooves, and you've already got large hands, this may not be very comfortable, while you would remove the obstacle of the high part of the groove, you may reduce the size of the grip, which may not be desirable. I think you'll find this other method just makes it fit better, while not reducing size, and if you add the hogue, then it puts more in your hand.

    I wish I could link you to that guy's thread coz it was a lot better and more detailed, w/ better images, but here are my camera phone pics for an illustration:

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    Notice the area in the corner of the trigger guard meeting the front strap, and compare to photos below, it's a little thinner after the sanding, but still enough material there to do the job...

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    Notice the gap on the dowel where it meets the gun in the corner, compared to first photo, there's less gap now, meaning more room for your finger, see what I mean?

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    Then you can see how smooth it looks underneath, once you finish it off w/ the super fine paper, looks factory


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    Finished product above w/out the hogue grip

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    Now above is w/ the hogue

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    And my happier fingers...

    The nice thing about this is you can take it slow, no power tools involved, take a little of at a time, and go back for more later if you want...

    I carry this gun daily. It was my first handgun bought around Feb of this year. I shoot IDPA w/ it, mostly practices, but a couple matches. I shot 7th in accuracy out of 28 people, including LEOs, and a guy who shot 10th in his division and 33rd overall at the national IDPA match in PA this past weekend, so basically, this gun shoots well if I do my part, and for people w/ my level of experience, we're doing pretty good so far, so the mods didn't hurt anything. Hope this helps you in some way...

    Regards,

    Karz
     
  14. The Lone Haranguer

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    It is (theoretically) as simple as taking something like a coarse wood rasp or even a belt sander to the raised part of the finger grooves, but it will take some work and skill to blend in the cutting so it looks uniform. Hogue makes rubber grip sleeves with or without finger grooves that you can stretch and slip over, but these add bulk to an already large and squarish grip. I also think they would look better with the front of the trigger guard smoothed off and the "can opener" corner removed. I've never done either, mainly because if I did it it would look like crap. ;)
     
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    I solved the issue by choosing a second generation G19.
    The finger grooves are one thing I can do without on my newer Glocks.
     
  16. tpaw

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    Nice job and good pics for a camera phone. The Glocktalk site is up, but I can't register for some reason? It keeps telling me that my IP address is banned, and I have no idea what that means?
     
  17. Island Beretta

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    i had the exact problem..shaved off under the triggerguard, used extended mags. etc. but the gun still bruised and hurt my fingers. Even now I have a callous on the side of my right middle finger.. it started affecting my performance with the gun so I changed to a G17 and now I am a happy camper.

    Important point: The space between the finger grove closest to the trigger guard and the trigger guard itself is the main problem. In my analysis I discovered that this space is wider on the g26 than the g19. So my hands actually fit better on the g26 with an extended mag. lip as opposed to the g19.. so for me it is g17/g26 carry not g19/g19 carry.
     
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    I probably would have taken the finger grooves off my 19 if I had purchased it recently. I only started to remove finger grooves on my last couple of guns. I stipple my Glocks and now take off a lot of the trigger guard material to get a higher grip and open up more room inside the guard to allow faster access to the trigger even if wearing gloves.
     
  20. SouthpawShootr

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    Finger grooves generally don't fit my hands. If the grip frame doesn't fit you, then, as others have said, get a G17. If the grip frame is ok, but the grooves are doing it for you, yes they can be removed. And no, I wouldn't do this myself. Lots of companies do grip reductions. Or you could look for a pristine second generatioin G19 (or even a factory refurb 2nd gen). These did not have finger grooves.
     
  21. karz10

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    tpaw, in regards to your IP address question, if you are using a public computer, or if you're using your home computer on a residential dial-up, dsl, or cable Internet account, you are likely using a dynamic IP address, meaning it's not directly associated with you, and periodically, the ISP will assign an available IP address out of their 'pool' of addresses, whenever a router/modem at a customer's location is rebooted, or turned on for the first time. This means that while one person will connect to the ISP's network using a particular IP address, then turn their computer/connection off, that IP address gets released back into the pool, then you come along and turn your computer on and connect to the Internet, that unused IP address gets assigned to you. So, if someone else did something w/ that IP address that caused them to get blocked by that forum, you can either write to that forum and explain you are a new user on that IP address, or you can contact your ISP to have them help you release that IP address and obtain a new one, and try again.

    Back to the G19, I finally got back into Glock Talk and still couldn't find it, so I posted looking for it, and got the following links:

    http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?postid=8146412 This is the one that inspired me to do what I did. His pics are better, he also rounded out his front of the trigger guard, I chose not to do this, not knowing how any future add-ons or holsters that connect to or use friction retention might be affected by modifying that portion of the trigger guard.

    http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=741607&highlight=g19+grip This one shows a guy who did something similar, but he used a rounded sanding bit and a cordless drill on a low speed, also thinking the dremel too dangerous removing too much material, too fast, he thought that the lower speed drill was more controlable.

    Let me know if, despite your IP address issues, you can at least view those threads. If not, maybe I can somehow paste them in here...

    Karz
     
  22. breit220

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    That gave me the same damn problem. I'd shoot a 100 rounds and feel the makings of a blister on my trigger finger.

    What to do??? Sell it. Buy a SIG or CZ. They have nice large trigger guards and fit big hands much better. If you want a poly gun look at an XD.
     
  23. BossHog

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    The finger grooves on my compact (G23) didn't fit me very well either so, my solution was to give it to my wife and buy a full size model (G31) to replace it.
     
  24. tpaw

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    Thank you for the IP explaination and for the research, you've been very helpful.
    Yes, I can view them, again, thank you very much.

    tpaw
     
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    Thanx for the tip. Took off just a little. Makes the gun snug in my hand with no burrs. me like.
     
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