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Glock 21 vs. Springfield XD45

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Surefire, May 30, 2006.

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  1. Surefire

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    Now that I have both of these pistols, for my tastes, the Springfield XD is a better overall platform. I think as more and more people try XDs, they will eventually become popular enough to warrant more accessories...

    XD45 advantages IMO (in no particular order):

    1. Ergonomics: Grip shape is more natural, no finger grooves, smaller grip.
    2. Trigger: safety on the trigger is more comfortable than the Glock 21's. The Glocks 21's (and all Glocks I've owned) safety lever digs into my trigger finger and begins to hurt and/or annoy usually after 50 rounds. The design of the XD trigger somehow makes the safety lever on it less abrasive. As for the trigger pull itself, the Glock feels lighter but mushier and longer. The XD trigger pulls seems shorter (less travel), but heavier--although slightly crisper.
    3. Recoil: Both guns are mild in this area, but to me the XD recoil is a tad softer than the G21. Maybe because the ergonomics fit me better.
    4. Accuracy: Both are really good in this area, but my Glock tends to get 1-2 "fliers" per magazine. My XD will consistently put all 10 in the black.
    5. XD45 is SLIGHTLY easier to field strip IMO (strips like a Sig)
    6. Forward slide serrations
    7. Safety: I like the grip safety, especially on a pistol with a short trigger travel that does NOT have a manual safety
    8. Steel Magazines
    9. Steel sights
    10. Steel guide rod
    11. Price

    Glock advantages IMO (in no particular order):

    1. Longer track record
    2. More support for fixing (armorers, gunsmiths usually know the Glock design a little better)
    3. More parts and custom accessories available
    4. Corrosion resistence
    5. Long term durability?
     
  2. Gator

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    Thanks for the review.

    I have only examined the XD45 in my local gunstore, but I plan to sell my Glock 21 and buy one soon! There is nothing really wrong with the Glock, but the XD fits my hand so much better and I do like the grip safety and steel mags.
     
  3. airborne19822003

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    ???

    Just curious...

    I have heard that with the XD .45 SA is using a new finish, does anyone have any information on the projected durability of SA's new finish compared to the Glock finish??

    SGT D
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  4. Ala Dan

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    Hello All-

    I'm told that Springfields new Melonite finish was first used on the
    XD-.45 ACP's; but they plan too use it on all future XD's. Its longevity
    is thought too be equal too Glocks Tennifer process? I think that
    the jury is still out on this issue~!:uhoh: :D
     
  5. phantomak47

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    Glock advantages IMO (in no particular order):

    1. Longer track record
    2. More support for fixing (armorers, gunsmiths usually know the Glock design a little better)
    3. More parts and custom accessories available
    4. Corrosion resistence
    5. Long term durability?
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    How about LAPD dropped Glock 21s off their approved pistol list after Glock came out 3 times to try to fix their pistols after numerous failure to fire and accidental discharges.
     
  6. Mongo the Mutterer

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    Thank you Surefire. Nice Review.
     
  7. Euclidean

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    They're both good choices, but I'm in the XD camp for the reasons mentioned...

    When I bought my first XD-45, I wish I could remember the gentleman's name but he was a very helpful and knowledgeable dealer because he was also a CCW trainer located I think in Waco somewhere. He was a hardcore member of the 1911 cult, but told me he liked the XD .45 platform for people who just didn't want a 1911. That's pretty high praise from one of those 1911 guys.

    At any rate, he was a fan of the Glock 21 too as a 1911 alternative, and as a consequence he had both guns on display right next to each other. What amazes me so much is that if you just look at both of these guns, you think "Oh it's just a Glock and a Glock ripoff."

    The instant you pick up one and then the other however, it's like night and day. I don't really care too much for Glock, I kind of like the Glock 19 and the Glock 30 to a lesser extent, but I've never had trouble resisting the temptation to buy either one. But the XD... man alive it's like somebody somewhere said "Okay, listen up, I am going to make a semiautomatic pistol just for you that is to your specifications so you can quit whining about how you don't like this or that or the other... There's your gun, now buy it!"

    Seriously, the XD platform, although I found it a little weird at first as I'm still revolver centric in my thinking, was intuitive after just a little practice. I started on the XD40 and pretty soon I had a pair of XD40s. After about a year of trading, I traded my XD40s in and got .45s to replace them with, I acquired an XD9 service, and I wound up buying an XD9 SC from a friend. Other than a Ruger that has sentimental value, it's the only self loading platform I own because it's the best semiautomatic pistol I've found. I've tried other things and there are some nice semiautos out there, but I keep coming back to the XD.

    Glock may get me yet in a moment of weakness, but I have 4 XD pistols and have owned 2 others. Two of these are XD45ACP service models. I'm quite happy with them and would buy another. I'm tempted by the XD45ACP tactical and if they ever try a SC version, I'll be all over that.

    My only concern is that since they're made in such an unstable part of the world and are still a niche product, parts availability may be a problem one day, so I feel obligated to get them in pairs.
     
  8. 30-06 lover

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    I have shot an XD 9mm and was not impressed at all. I know it isn't the 45, but the trigger was one of the worst I have shot! Different strokes for different folks, but man I hated the gun when I shot it...I much prefer the 21, but I still hold the USP as the most superior polymer 45.
    -Mike
     
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    Speaking of the trigger, how is the XD45's reset? The Glock trigger reset is one of the better ones out there. I noticed shooting the XD 9mm some years ago that it was on the long side. A short reset is high on my list for desirable pistol traits.
     
  10. Daniel T

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    Only 10? ;)
     
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    I have had no problems with Glock but hasn't there been some issues with them lately. I thought I read something about some parts that needed to be upgraded with the safer versions on the new generation Glocks?
     
  12. GunNut

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    That may be true, but the XD45 has zero track record in police departments.

    While the Glock 21 may have had some issues, we don't know if it is a couple guns out of hundreds or thousands, having problems; or every gun having problems(which i seriously doubt).
     
  13. gunmetal

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    That's a pretty OLD issue actually. There were 6 parts that received "upgrades" and that was quite some time ago.

    http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/upgrade-faq.html
     
  14. airborne19822003

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    I am getting the XD .45 when I get home on mid tour leave, so I posted the link below. Fair price on the trigger job reccomended...gets the reset to about 1/8th of an inch!! I will post a thread when I get the pistol, then another after the trigger job, time will tell for me.

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=202952


    SGT D
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  15. bigmike45

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    Actually....I know of one Sheriffs Department, here in Texas, where the deputies have all exchanged their S&W 4706's for the new XD-45 Service. I think there are around 30 deputies and reservists.
     
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    Melonite is the same as Tenifer.

    From http://www.durferrit.com/en/unternehmen/firmengeschichte.htm






    To meet the growing needs with regard to wear and corrosion resistance, as well as the enhancement of the fatigue strength, great efforts were devoted to the development and launching of the TENIFER® process, which is also known worldwide under the trade names of TUFFTRIDE® and MELONITE®. This nitrocarburizing process has undergone continuous development with regard to its regenerability and ecology, and from year-to-year the number of applications is increasing on all 5 continents.
     
  17. Serendipity

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    The LA G21 "problems" had to do with light strikes. Accidental discharges had nothing to do with the "problems." The LA, G21 non-problems have been pretty well covered in other threads.
     
  18. sigma 40ve

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    Daniel T Quote:
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    My XD will consistently put all 10 in the black.


    Only 10?


    Maybe a 10 only state?
     
  19. Surefire

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    Yes, low capacity magazines only allowed in this state.
     
  20. AndABeer

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    Well then when they intro the XD 10 I'll be one of the first to que up. :D
     
  21. nitesite

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    Yep, so for now I have a Glock 29 to keep my XD-45 company. I'm very pleased (and fortunate) to own each of them! :)

    I can't make up my mind which one to leave home with and bring to work, so I bring both and one remains locked in the truck while one comes inside.
     
  22. freebird

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    The XD .45 is a definite favorite of mine. It feels much better in my hands than my Glock. Both have been good to me but the XD by far is my favorite.
     
  23. nitesite

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    Hi, Dan!

    I believe that Melanite and Tenifer are the same process, with Tenifer being Glocks proprietary moniker for the finish.

    OOOPS~ I just saw the post from charlesb_la
     
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    Mine is at CC as we speak...Should have back the first part of next week.
     
  25. Browns Fan

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    The guy who got me into IDPA is a big Glock fan. I ran into him last night and he said this mutual friend of ours bought a .45acp XD and he likes it. He wants to borrow it for a match before he decides to buy one himself!
     
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