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Glock 22 or M&P .45

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by EdLaver, Aug 30, 2007.

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Glock 22 or M&P .45

Poll closed Sep 6, 2007.
  1. Glock 22

    48 vote(s)
    44.9%
  2. M&P .45

    59 vote(s)
    55.1%
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  1. EdLaver

    EdLaver Member

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    My Brother-In-Law has shot both my new M&P .45 and Glock 22. He is torn between the two and doesn't know which to go buy. This will be his 1st gun and the primary use will be for home defense. He loves the feel and natural point angle of both guns, is accurate with both not having much of a problem with the caliber difference. He just doesnt know which to choose.:uhoh: :confused: :( I have told him that either way he goes he will be happy and not regret one from the other. In your opinions if you had to chose...which one would you pick and why?
     
  2. ognnosnim

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    Both are fine guns.

    I go with Glock since they have never failed me. Extra mags are cheap... and all parts are readily available almost anywhere.

    Glock's customer service is also top notch.
     
  3. glockman19

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    I agree. Tell him to get the Glock
     
  4. rbernie
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    M&P, if only for the adjustable ergos.
     
  5. Monkeybear

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    Go with whatever is cheapest. I have limited experience with Glocks but I have still seen them jam a couple of times but they still have a longer track record than the M&P.
     
  6. pablo45

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    Can't go wrong with the Glock and I can't go anywhere without mine.
     
  7. DirksterG30

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    I'd go with the M&P - far superior ergonomics to the Glock.
     
  8. BsChoy

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    I carry a G22 on the job and love the way all glocks point and handle but, I like the mag disconnect feature of the M&P series. Nobody realizes that the feature has saved more than a few lives of law enforcement officer over the passed decades.
     
  9. bluecollar

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    Glock pistols are a lot like this A.P.B.T. lying at my feet right now. His only (original) purpose in life is to do battle (well, and to keep me company). That's what he does. That's what he is. Think of Glocks the same way. An instrument of battle, period.
     
  10. W.E.G.

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    You BETTER like the mag-disconnect feature of the M&P.

    Otherwise, S&W lets their lawyers write grafitti all over the side of your new gun.
     
  11. Ghost Tracker

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    I'm a GLOCK fan & own several models, but handling the new S&W M&P .45 with the thumb safety (which I like) may prompt me to buy one. Reports say they're pretty accurate as well. Bowie Tactical is supposed to be able to tune-up the M&P trigger very nicely. There's a strong probability it'll be my next handgun purchase. At least part of the US Army Markmanship Team are shooting M&P pistols. That says a LOT in my mind.
     
  12. tydephan

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    That's a tough choice.

    I own a Glock 22 (2nd generation) and 2 full size M&Ps (9mm and .40cal).

    Comparing the G22 and the M&P40:

    These are two of my favorite guns. The Glock 22 was the first pistol I owned and it was given to me by my father. It was a used piece, so the trigger on it is spectacular for a polymer pistol. The only issue I ever had with it was the muzzle rise made it difficult for me to get accurate follow-up shots. I never had a problem with the grip of the pistol. The grip angle was ok for me. I was fairly accurate with the gun.

    Enter the M&P40. Milder recoil. Much, much better ergonomics. Trigger is rough at first, but smooths out nicely after a few hundred rounds. As far as shooting and accuracy goes, it is a far superior pistol to me. I am more accurate with it than any Glock I own.

    However, Glock has a helluva reliability record that the M&P has not yet built.

    In addition, concerning the M&P45, every one I have seen has looked rough out of the box, as if the extractors were off previously used guns. The slightly larger grip on the M&P45 didn't feel as good as the 9 and 40 versions. With that being said, I still fully intend to purchase one at some point.

    Then there's also magazine capacity to take into account. The G22 holds 15+1. The M&P45 currently holds 10+1. However recent email correspondence with Smith revealed that a 14-round magazine for the M&P45 would be released in 2-months or so.

    Given these two choices, I would go with the G22, unless the M&P40 becomes an option.

    Regardless, he is going to get a great pistol. Even if the M&P45 experiences issues, Smith's customer service is top notch and will pay all expenses to have it repaired. Glock's CS is very similar.

    Tell him to not worry about which one...just worry about which one to buy, first. :D:D

    Good luck to him.
     
  13. CountGlockula

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    I don't argue that, but I'm guessing its probably gotten a few killed as well...



    My vote goes to the Glock.
     
  15. Rokman

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    I vote Glock due to proven reliability and cheap, available mags. The M&P is probably a great gun, but I am going to give it more time on the market before I purchase one. Unless I get a screaming deal on one.
     
  16. Coronach

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    It's not THAT bad. ;)
    I dunno. I've never heard of a mag disconnect resulting in a gun not firing in the line of duty, except in instances where the officer deliberately dumped the magazine while wrestling for the gun. Not to say it couldn't happen- I've just never heard of it. I know of at least one officer who credits his status as a current air-breather to his mag-disconnect.

    For a CCWer, I think it's a non-issue, one way or the other. Plus, the design of the disconnect on the M&P has basically no influence on trigger quality, unlike some other designs.

    Mike
     
  17. Coronach

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    That's probably a reasonable position. I think that both are good guns, and basically do the same thing/fill the same niche. If you like the Glock's ergos and trigger, you can hardly go wrong. I don't, so I prefer the M&P. Right now the M&P's biggest drawbacks are teething issues. Some guns seem to have the finish applied poorly and are rust-prone. Some guns have magazine release issues (mostly compacts). I have every confidence that these will be ironed out, but it is something to consider.

    My M&P fullsize is running like a top (no malfunctions, IIRC, for the last 1500+ rounds?), but I am watching it closely.

    Mike
     
  18. EdLaver

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    I can honestly say and I told my brother-in-law this too, that the M&P .45 I have has ran flawlessly with 200 rounds I have put through it so far. The Glock has well over 2,000 and I can count on one hand how many jams I have had (maybe 4 and thats because of low pressure reloads from a buddy). He is leaning more to the Glock right now as he and I both have been monitoring the poll and posts. He still hasnt made up his mind yet but he likes the fact that glock mags are cheaper and that he will have more capacity. But I have informed him that the M&P .45 will have higher cap mags soon too. Just being unbiased:evil:
     
  19. Autolycus

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    Check out HK. The P2000 or USPc will be even better than the Glock.
     
  20. EdLaver

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    HK's are out of his price range, they are a bit too expensive.
     
  21. tydephan

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    Not that it is an issue, but I was just wondering why the choice of these two pistols, given the differing calibers. It would seem natural that he would want to choose between a G22 vs. M&P40, or G21 vs. M&P45.

    I understand that these are the two guns that you had and he was able to sample. Was just curious if he had a preference of caliber and if that is a consideration for him in the decision making process?

    Thanks,
    John
     
  22. boomstik45

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    You're good to go with either one.

    If you want higher capacity, go with the glock. If this doesn't concern you, then I'd go with the M&P. I feel that this series is every bit as good as glock in most ways, and better in others. Again, both are fine guns.

    I tire of hearing about track records, because they aren't comparable unless the weapons you are talking about have been out either an equal amount of time, or have both been out for long enough to establish a lengthy record. Glock has been out over 20 years. The M&P has barely been there a couple/few years. Comparing track record isn't fair. It's as ridiculous as comparing glock's record to the 1911, which has been around a freakin' century.

    The difference for me in the two companies is Smith's willingness and follow-through to try different things until something works. And then, be willing to venture out into another direction, because innovation is an on-going thing. It doesn't stop with the successful output of one product.

    Glock, on the other hand, proclaims that it has achieved perfection and sees no reason to change or branch out. It will take time, but the fact is this: lack of continued innovation and willingness to bring out a new product (or product type) will eventually take you out of first place and put you somewhere in the middle of the pack. Glock's product is good, but it's no longer dynamic, it has become static. So much so, that since S&W's ill-fated stupid Sigma idea, no company has tried to to make a glock-a-like product. They've all entered the polymer-framed pistol market, though.

    Conversely, many companies have tried their hands at making 1911s. Even more recently, with companies like Taurus. Interesting, is it not? Don't care what anybody says, NOBODY is trying to make their own glock.
     
  23. Mtn_USPc

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    I vote for the Glock, instead of a copy of a Glock.
     
  24. Hoppy590

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    everytime you buy a glock, god kills a kitten. please, think of the kittens.
     
  25. 10-Ring

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    I'm not a fan of the 40 S&W and I'm not a fan of S&W semi auto pistols :confused: So, coming up w/ an answer has been tough. But, if I had too, I'd go w/ the M&P 45 ;0
     
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