Glock 31 Versus Glock 32

[Apocalypse-Now]

Now would you please start your own thread to discuss this further rather than impolitely detailing the OP's thread about shootability between the g32 and 31

no need to be rude. the OP asked what we think about the 357sig glocks, thanked me for my replies that answered his questions.

you're the only one with any sort of issue here in the thread, not the OP.

 

[CZguy]

lol just a friendly debate. hopefully i didn't get the 357sig guys riled up lol

Well you did............but I'm old so I dozed off again.

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

Here's a rather nice test that clearly illustrates the 357's ability to shoot through things

http://intrencik.com/357sig.htm

Any way you look at it the advantages are indeed there. It's up to each individual to decide if they're worth having.


For me they are. With active shooter incidents on the rise. One of which was very close to home for me. I'm no longer banking on every engagement being a point of contact scuffle in the dark.

saw that a while ago.

entertaining, but hardly a valid comparison using fmj 357sig rounds vs. jhp 9mm and a non +p fmj 9mm (NATO pressures aren't +p).

also, notice the +p 9mm gold dot almost performed identically despite ballistic differences?

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

Well you did............but I'm old so I dozed off again.

lol

 

[trex1310]

glad i could help you avoid this pointlessly expensive caliber.

Agh, what would we do without the internet experts and their pointlessly expressed personal opinions. LOL.

I don't really care whose test proved/disproved what. I personally like
the caliber and will continue to use it. What I spend my money on is
nobody's business. LOL.

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

Agh, what would we do without the internet experts and their pointlessly expressed personal opinions. LOL.

you consider the FBI wound ballistics laboratory and Dr. Roberts to be "internet experts"

(google dr. gary roberts. he's one of the world's foremost experts on wound ballistics. he's not just some guy that hangs out on arfcom lol )

 

[R.W.Dale]

Roberts, Fackler, Sandow it doesn't matter.

You can find a ballistics expert to support any position you care to take on anything handgun related.

What I want to know is what makes you assume the FBI's findings are more valid than the usss, air martals, and various state agencies whom have adopted the sig round.

Id also like for you to explain to us how exactly 40s&w is no less effective than 10mm or how 38 is just as good a hunting round as 357 while you're at it? Since according to you and your expert o the day velocity doesn't matter.


Here's an idea instead of living your experiences through something you read on teh intarwebz why don't you take a handgun out in the field and use it to make living things not be and then come back here and try to convince everyone 20% more velocity doesn't mean anything.

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[greyeyezz]

the FBI and Dr. Gary Roberts both tested the 357sig round and found it penetrated identically and also had identical wound cavities as hot 9mm jhp's. the extra energy it imparts is pointless in terms of stopping power. they concluded when compared to 9mm it has less capacity, much more muzzle blast and noise with no advantages.

He didn't ask your opinion on the round or that of the dentist's.

The 31 is about three quarters of an inch longer than the 32 so the difference is nill.

 

[CZF]

G31 is longer in the slide and butt, a bit heavier than the G32 or G32 as well.

I don't find the recoil from the G32 or baby Glock 357 to be bad at all.

Much more controlled in rapid fire strings than my buddy's Glock 23.

Think of the Glock 31 as a duty sized gun, while the others are better
(for most) when looking at a gun for concealed carry.

 

[AK103K]

I had a 31 for a little while. Ended up getting Lone Wolf 9mm barrel for it and then selling it a short time later.

My main concern with it was the battering/peening the underside of the slide was getting from impacting the locking block. I was told it was common with the .40s, but the couple of .40's looked at didnt appear to have it to the extent that my 31 did. It also never appeared to slow down, as I was also told it would. My 17's and 26's shooting more rounds +P+ 9mm than the 31 had through it, show no signs of any peening.

So look at it this way, any run of the mill 357 sig load is like getting the highest performance subgun +p++ 9mm ever loaded plus another 100fps sprinkled on top just for good measure.

I was quite enamored with the 357SIG for a number of years, and spent my share of time arguing its merits. Since no one seemed to have "actual" facts in any of the discussions, I emailed Speer awhile back and asked them directly. This was their response.....

" The 9mm is a 35,000 psi, +P is 38,500 psi and +P+ is 40,000 psi. The 357 SIG is a 40,000 psi. Bullets of the same weight will approximate the same velocities in SIG and +P+. The difference is gun construction, all 9mm's will not handle +P+. All of the 357 SIG's are made to handle the pressures for the caliber.

Shoot Straight!
Coy Getman
CCI/SPEER Technical Service
2299 Snake River Ave.
Lewiston, ID 83501
(800) 627-3640 ext. #5351 (pound key must be used)"


Basically what I got from that was, +P+ 9mm and 357SIG shooting bullets of similar weight, will perform similarly. I can tell you from shooting a 17 loaded with +P+ and a 31 side by side, they shoot and react the same. If you were handed one and were asked what it was after firing it, I seriously doubt you could.

Interestingly enough, their comment about guns made for 357SIG handling the round, and some 9mms not handling +P+ seemed to be reversed in my case. My Glocks that have a good bit of +P+ through them, and more than my 357 did, barely show finsh wear on the slide, where the 31 was badly peened.