Glock 36 grip

[Skoob]

Why did Glock make the 36 the way they did?

Why make the grip frame short and then have magazines with room for another finger instead of making a longer grip with flush-fit mags?

Is there a good reason?

Thanks

 

[chicharrones]

I wish I could go slap someone at Glock upside the head for that one. It makes sense on the G30 because you can lose grip size with a ammo reduction to 9 rounds. But for the G36, I really don't want to go down to 5 rounds in the mag.

There is someone on THR that has done that magazine mod though. Looked interesting, but a short gripped 36 still has a 3.8" barrel and the length associated with that.

 

[BossHogg]

So you can get a grip on the grips. It's still the same size as my CCO 1911 grips.

I don't think a lot of people would buy a light weight 45 acp that you had to hold with 2 fingers. By making the frame smaller they may have saved a little weight or made it a little cheaper. Again with pinky grip on the mag it's still the same size of the CCO grip. 6+1.

 

[TonyT]

Personally I like the Glock-36 as it is configured. I use thwe standard 6 shot magazines and the grip feels fine to me.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

So you can get a grip on the grips.

But that brings us back to the original question: why not make the grip full length in the first place? There is no flush-fitting, five-round counterpart magazine. This is a design oddity of that gun I've never understood.

 

[bergmen]

The solution is simple. Add Pearce +0 mag extensions. When I bought my G36 recently I ordered five extensions + three extra mags and installed the extensions as soon as I brought it all home.

You can get +1 extensions also but I preferred to stay with the stock setup.

This makes the grip perfect for my hands. I love it.

Dan

 

[Skoob]

But Dan, why didn't they make the grip that long to begin with and then have the same style magazine as the other glocks?

 

[BossHogg]

The other Glocks are failures. The G-36 is Glock perfection that's why.

 

[chicharrones]

But Dan, why didn't they make the grip that long to begin with and then have the same style magazine as the other glocks?

Exactly.

I guess my first post made it seem like I want a 5 round magazine. I do not.

I have the Pearce +0s on my G36 as well. Considering I bought 4 of them, it would have been nice not to need any of them if Glock would have made the 36's grip full length to cover the magazine. That's my only beef with the G36.

 

[saltydog452]

Options are good. With a short handle, options (mag choices) are within reach of the customer.

 

[bergmen]

But Dan, why didn't they make the grip that long to begin with and then have the same style magazine as the other glocks?

That is a very good question and the very reason I didn't consider the G36 until I found out about the Pearce extensions.

I held one several times at various LGS and didn't buy it specifically because of the lack of a pinky groove. In a compact carry gun in a lighter caliber (9mm maybe) I would not have been as concerned. But for me, I need all four fingers for the recoil of the .45 acp.

And the +0 extensions make this handgun superb. I'm glad I found them and really glad I bought this fabulous gun.

Dan

 

[bergmen]

Options are good. With a short handle, options (mag choices) are within reach of the customer.

Exactly. I usually touch-up just about any handgun I buy from grip changes to sights, etc. This was inexpensive, quick and easy. Also, I figured out a nifty way of removing the stock mag plates if anyone is interested (they are a purple SOB to release).

Dan

 

[BossHogg]

Don't the plus zero make the grips longer ? Kinda defeats the purpose if so. It's the grips that print.

 

[bergmen]

Don't the plus zero make the grips longer ? Kinda defeats the purpose if so. It's the grips that print.

This is much more of a shape change than an addition to length:

Dan

 

[chicharrones]

Okay. I do like the +0 base plates. They only make the base plate a tad longer and definitely get rid of any pinky pinching when firing. I do really like my G36, but if Glock would have simply made the grip length the same as the magazine length that would have saved me $40.00 that could have gone towards ammo or night sights.

Part of my concern is that on some guns that have extended magazines, the hand can pry down on that magazine hard enough that it actually accelerates the wear at the mag catch and the mag slot on the mag itself. I've had extended mags come unseated during firing when regular mags in the same gun don't have that problem. Some might say it is simply the mag. Well, on some problematic mags I can remove the extension and put on a flat base plate. Magically, the problem vanishes.

Also, extended mags can rock back and forth under hand pressure when firing. I've read of some people having feed problems with early G36s and some resorted to shimming the mags with plastic or thin card stock to prevent the rocking. Apparently, this created a problem with the angle of the ammo as being stripped from the mag. That is something I will have to watch as my G36 gets more rounds down the tube.

All I know is if the G36 grip frame was built longer and still housed 6 rounds in the magazine, I'd like the G36 that much more.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

The solution is simple. Add Pearce +0 mag extensions.

I do like how the checkering blends into the rest of the grip, and the shape to the finger grooves.

 

[bergmen]

Okay. I do like the +0 base plates. They only make the base plate a tad longer and definitely get rid of any pinky pinching when firing. I do really like my G36, but if Glock would have simply made the grip length the same as the magazine length that would have saved me $40.00 that could have gone towards ammo or night sights.

Part of my concern is that on some guns that have extended magazines, the hand can pry down on that magazine hard enough that it actually accelerates the wear at the mag catch and the mag slot on the mag itself. I've had extended mags come unseated during firing when regular mags in the same gun don't have that problem. Some might say it is simply the mag. Well, on some problematic mags I can remove the extension and put on a flat base plate. Magically, the problem vanishes.

Also, extended mags can rock back and forth under hand pressure when firing. I've read of some people having feed problems with early G36s and some resorted to shimming the mags with plastic or thin card stock to prevent the rocking. Apparently, this created a problem with the angle of the ammo as being stripped from the mag. That is something I will have to watch as my G36 gets more rounds down the tube.

All I know is if the G36 grip frame was built longer and still housed 6 rounds in the magazine, I'd like the G36 that much more.

I agree with everything you say here. I need to be very aware of the situations you detail here and be careful how I apply pressure to this extension. The stock mag plate would not be immune to pressure, though, since it not much shorter and the pinky still rests on it.

I had one other auto that I added extensions to that caused all kinds of problems (NAA Guardian .32 acp). These had a little finger hook at the bottom like the +0 Pearce grips do. There was a difference in that there wasn't any way to avoid a downward pressure on the finger hook. On the Glock +0 plates, I find much less of a tendency to put a downward force on the pinky groove.

We were constantly dumping magazines on the ground because of a weak latch plus snappy recoil. That was only one thing I hated about that miserable weapon (that is collecting dust in the back of the safe right now).

Dan

 

[chicharrones]

You know, I have the same model Guardian and it has exhibited the same exact problem with the extensions.

I feel like we are in parallel universes right now.

 

[jfrey]

The Peace +0 extensions make the G36 grip virtually the same length as a G19, only slimmer. I carry my G36 and G19 interchangeably. Same size, same holster, just twice as big a bullet in the .45.

 

[bergmen]

You know, I have the same model Guardian and it has exhibited the same exact problem with the extensions.

I feel like we are in parallel universes right now.

Funny how that happens .

Dan

 

[CDW4ME]

Why did Glock make the 36 the way they did?

Why make the grip frame short and then have magazines with room for another finger instead of making a longer grip with flush-fit mags?

Is there a good reason?

Thanks

There is absolutely no reason to chop the frame short and then compensate with an oversize magazine base.
IF they offered flush fitting magazines (which they don't) then the design would make sense.

A related topic: I have a 36 and with the factory magazine bases my pinky would get pinched between the gap in the frame and magazine base; Pearce +0 magazine replacement base plates solved my G36 pinky pinch problem.

 

[BossHogg]

ok,ok I'll try the pearce but why the +0 and not the +1 ?

 

[Seven For Sure]

The design is idiotic. There is no way to make it shorter. I have the 36 along with a dozen other Glocks and I only bought it for the upper to use on a 30SF frame. I also have a Kahr P45 for a single stack and it blows the crappy 36 OUT OF THE WATER! I have brand new never fired 36 frame and mags I'll sell if anyone is interested.

 

[chicharrones]

ok,ok I'll try the pearce but why the +0 and not the +1 ?

The +0 gets rid of the blood blistering pinky pinching without making the grip length too much longer. The difference between the stock Glock base and the Pearce +0 is not noticeable in concealed carry.

The +1 makes the grip length too long for many concealed carry situations. Plus, from what I understand, the +1 needs a stronger magazine spring to get reliable feeding.

10% stronger mag spring - http://www.glockmeister.com/ISMI-Ex...ng-for-GLOCK-36-Magazines/productinfo/ISMI36/

 

[BossHogg]

+0 it is. Thanks