Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by CDW4ME, Apr 17, 2009.
Never had a PM45 so I can't comment. They are on the big side for pocket, almost identical in size to the P40 but thicker and one less rd. It may use a dual recoil assembly like the PM9 and PM40. A PM9 or PM40 would be better for pocket carry over a PM45 for me and my pockets.
I would agree
the PM45 might be pocketable, I know of one poster who carrys it in his pocket. it is about 4 ounces lither tan the glock, smaller all the way around and is one super handgun IMO. So is the glock, both more than likely willbe waist band carried.
I am a kahr fan
I bought a used 36 to replace the new P45 I had and sold. There's no real comparison here, not even in the same ball park. With the Pierce +1 grip extension, you get 7+1 in a thin (not as thin as my Springer Micro, but thin enough to conceal well) reliable Glock with a place for your whole hand (no pinky dangle). IMHO, polymer Kahr's are way over priced for the quality. Go with a Glock and you'll never look back at Kahr, I know I won't.
Unlike Distra who has had issues, I have never had one issues ever and I own 3 kahrs and they have been flalwelss, My K9 has 4000 plus rounds through it and my PM9 has 19.500 and my little P380 right now has 450. top quality IMO, not over priced IMO but if you get burned by a gun u tend to stay away from them in the future. I was a past kt owner and u could not give me one of them today PERIOD, but there are thousands out there that love theirs. there are always two sides to a fence..
Glocks are not fool proof. Just ask the Indiana State Police about thier G22, which (1200) in exchange for the G17 which is their carry peace still today..
I got the KAHR P45. Light, slim, and scary accurate
it seems you had some problems
but wow kahr must have wonderful customer service support if you were able to send it in worked on and returned twice in a two week period
I never understood that. There is no reason for it. Nevertheless, one I shot as a rental performed well for me. Of course, this was when .45 practice ammo was a ten-spot for a box.
I have had reliability issues with my CW45, which prompted me to get the G36.
I did what I could with the CW45 to help it feed. I polished everything that had moving contact with other parts and polished the feed ramp. To no avail.
I sent the pistol back to Kahr and they put about a 1/16th inch bevel of 45 degrees on the stripper lug. That fixed the issue.
The pistol shot very accurately and felt great in the hand. It had a long, but smooth trigger that was very much like a revolver, but lighter. The reset was long too. After the gun failed me I just couldn't trust it and opted to carry my G36.
I bought a CM45 which is super for concealed carry, but only 5+1.
Before my first shot with this pistol, I polished the crap out of it with flitz. ...a mirror finish inside. I also beveled the stripper lug as Kahr did for the CW45. So far 300 or 400 rounds through it of various ball ammo and 50 or so of various hallow point ammo. No failures.
The G36 is superior in my view and seems better made. I shoot it very well and it has been utterly reliable. Reliable is the most important aspect for my carry gun.
Poly frame Kahrs are junk, IME. I've had 3 of them.
Glocks have a reputation for reliability out of the box. Kahrs do not.
My G19 is light years ahead of the Kahrs I've had in terms of reliability, and quality.
Me ether. It seems like they were going to make a short mag for it, then decided not to. It would be a lot better if the grip was a little longer and it had a
flat bottom mag. I have heard a few people complain that it pinches them on the pinkie, ouch.
I would choose the Kahr.
Not perfect but I'm more accurate and handle the Kahr better than the others. The G36 was loose in the mag connection and it had a couple FTEs in 50 rounds. Probably not usual but I didn't shoot it well and it didn't fit my hand well. I'm confident in the PM45 as my EDC inside the waistband. None of the above would fit my Wrangler pocket. Or my Savanes.
They need a small mod that takes about ten minutes. I will post it later with pics. The mags feed fine and lock the slide. Another plus is they cost less than half the price of kahr mags.
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