Glock feed problems.

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I have a Glock Model 35 in 40 S&W. It has started having problems when chambering a round when you rack the slide or release the slide release. The round jams up against the lower edge of the feed ramp. If I with my left hand push the bottom of the magazine forward as I release the slide, the angle of the bullet in the magazine is raised up and the bullet will chamber properly.

If I place cardboard between the rear of the magazine at its' bottom 2 inches and the back of the magazine well; I again raise the angle of the round in the magazine and I get proper functioning.

What is odd is that this was not a problem before and it has gradually turned into a problem. I have replaced the magazine with a new one and it did not fix the problem.

Is this something that can be fixed?
 
If I had your problem I'd get on the phone and call Glock directly and/or find out if there was a Clock armorer in your vicinity.
 
You may just need to detail clean the extractor - just in case it's got gunk in it and it isn't opening up enough to let the bullet's rim slide up under it far enough before the bullet gets to the fed ramp. I'd try a good scrubbin' first - remember - no oil in the slide assembly - just clean. Make sure the mags are clean too. Detail cleaning procedures are available at TopGlock.com or your friendly neighborhood Glock Armorer - if the law around there uses Glocks they probably have a Glock armorer that could help if needed.

Edited to add: Have you changed ammo - some nose profiles will tend to catch on the feed ramp more than others....... polishing the feed ramp a little could help - can't hurt. Had this happen with Lawman 147 fmj 9mm in my G-26 when chambering the first rd from a mag......every other brand has fed perfectly???? Could be the overall length of the cartridge but more likely the nose profile.

Ken
 
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check with glock to see if there have been any similar problems. See if they updated the mag follower design recently.
 
Interesting problem, and not one I've encountered on any of my Glocks. You might want to send this back to Glock to be checked. I don't think it's a magazine follower problem if you can move the magazine within the mag well to the extent you describe - I would suspect the magazine catch is not holding the magazine at the right height, or is not providing sufficient grip on it, so that it can move around.
 
"I thought those things were indestructable?"

Just to keep up glocks reputation, while running a scenario at a tactical shoot a magazine for my glock 26 worked its way out of the cheap-ass mag holder i was borrowing (wasn't even designed for glock mags) and fell into a mud puddle. It was saturated with thick brown mud, so i did what any reasonable glock owner would do...rammed it home and finished the course. There was mud all over the gun, all over myself, and a whole lot of 1911 shooters who thought i was crazy. Toothbrush, CLP and some gun scrubber and it was good as new.
 
Installing a new mag release would be pretty cheap and would probably fix your problems. You don't need to send your pistol to Glock to have something that simple done.
 
glock does have a fast turnaround however. my friends G19 had a problem with the slide release and the front night sight died prematurely. Sent it to them, had it back in 2 weeks with a brand new set of trijicons, a new slide stop and all new springs. total cost? Shipping to glock.
 
Glock's turnaround is awesome. I had a model 20 in for a revision of the trigger group/firing pin, and it was back to me in three days. Cost: Ditto, shipping to Glock.
 
Preacherman, I think you might be right. Examination of the old magazine shows fairly bad wear at the indent where the magazine catch engages the magazine.

I the magazine catch a do it yourself project?
 
You can replace the mag release in a couple of minutes. Detailed instructions @ topglock.com.
 
You could have sloshed it around in a puddle and accomplished the same thing with lots less effort.
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True. Not bashing 1911's, great guns. But i wouldn't abuse one like i would a glock. Not cause they wouldn't hold up, but because they're too pretty.

Guess i'm saying it's easier to beat an ugly child.
 
Look at the mag release engagement slot on the magazine and see if you see the slot 'weeping'. This happens with Glock magazines esp. if loaded fully and kept in the mag. well for extended periods of time. The mag. release itself also suffers some weepage and this affects the stability of the magazine in the mag. well. Change out wherever you see damage has been done.

Also for reasons that we are not always aware of, nose dives tends to occur occassionally during feeding. A hard slap on the bottom of the mag. will usually resolve this problem on the spot. Check after however if the mag. is dirty or if you have any rough spots or overflowing of plastic in the mag. tube. There is also the infamous follower issues.

Glock magazines have come a far way, but I think that if they cut to the chase and went with a fully metal mag. and metal release then most of the malfunction problems will go. To save face they can make it an option to the FML polymer mags and mag. release... :evil:
 
Look at the mag release engagement slot on the magazine and see if you see the slot 'weeping'. This happens with Glock magazines esp. if loaded fully and kept in the mag. well for extended periods of time. The mag. release itself also suffers some weepage and this affects the stability of the magazine in the mag. well.
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Yes this is probally it.

Metal mag and Metal catch for Glocks sound like a good business investment to me.
 
You see, diagnosing problems without looking at the pistol is just shootin' in the dark and hoping you hit the target.....but, you said it hangs the bullets on the feed ramp from slide release by the sling shot method or using the slide stop lever, so let's see here....

You say you have a new magazine (it is factory Glock ain't it) so that should be ok...however, disassembly and inspection is the only way to know for sure that the mags are as they should be......

You can remove the mag release (if necessary to see it's condition) with a small flat tip screw driver by prying the spring out of the plastic slot it fits in on the mag release - instructions are probably on TopGlock.com.......A replacement release is cheap, if needed - hey, borrow a friends to see if thats the problem - I have one, if you need it, PM me and we can make arrangements or you can order one from some of the Glock part vendors like topglock.com, etc........

The mags are not a tight fit in the compact and full size Glocks - you can move the mags forward and back a little but I'm sure doing this a lot will cause wear on the catch and the mags - all used mags show wear in the catch slots but unless severely abused, will work fine.

You say this problem developed over time - so how many rds are we talking about??? Has the pistol and mags ever been detail stripped and cleaned????

Small pieces of brass and firing residue getting in the extractor assembly (and firing pin channel) is unavoidable - it does require cleaning at some point in time and can cause feed problems - either find a Glock armorer or look on TopGlock.com for instructions on how to disassemble the slide - it ain't hard, you'll be amazed at how simple it really is once you do it - a small 3/32 punch (necessary) and a thin bladed flat head screw driver (to get the slide cover plate started off) is all it takes - there's springs and stuff in there so take the usual precautions........

Dirty mags, deformed/damaged mags or weak mag springs (not in your case, 'cause you got a new mag, it is a Glock mag ain't it) can cause feed problems.......

Weak recoil springs can cause feed problems........

The type of ammo you're using can cause feed problems - this ain't usually the case if it's a reputable factory load - but it certainly can be - some pistols just like some brands/types of ammo better than others - are you using the same type as before the problem started??????

These are just about all the things that can cause a good feedin' Glock to start hangin' up the way you described......the First suspect would be firing residue: in the pistol and/or mags. The Second suspect would be the ammo (unless you already know it's good to go in that pistol), and the Third suspect would then be the condition of the parts with the mag springs being the main character. I'd check these things first, before looking to other possibilities..........

Good luck and let us know what you find,

Ken
 
If I had your problem I'd get on the phone and call Glock directly and/or find out if there was a Clock armorer in your vicinity.
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Because disassembling a Clock on your own can void the warranty? :neener:
 
The jam. It is hard to see but the bullet is up against the bottom edge of the feed ramp.

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The fix. This raises the angle of the rounds as they enter the chamber.

I know what you all are thinking and you all are right! Yes, as a matter of fact, I was indeed born in the Ozarks!


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Good pics......

Is that the same ammo it ran fine on before? Sometimes a nose profile or over all length of a cartridge will cause feed problems.

Changing the feed angle of the magazine by wedging it in the grip frame is accomplishing a bandaid fix of the malfunctioning extractor or other actual problem. Putting a wedge in the grip frame will cause pressure to be put on the mag catch area and continue to deform those parts which will eventually (if not now) require replacement to get it back to normal specifications.....

Your magazine's catch notch does look a little worn on it's bottom edge - how does the top edge look.....does it wiggle more than the new one does when it's in the pistol....

Have you cleaned the extractor assembly yet?

It'll be something simple......

Disassembling your pistol will not void the warranty. If you break something while doing it (which is hard to do) they just won't cover what ever you break. If you take your time and follow the instructions it's really just a matter of doing it. This is one of the best benefits of the Glock pistol - it's ease of maintenance.

Let us know how it goes,

Ken
 
Wow, I just bought a brand new Glock 26 EXO, and went to rack the slide, and the bullet jammed against the bottom of the barrell. I had Gold Dot 124 +p in the mag, so I switched to Hydra-Shoks, the same thing happened, now I am am ready to throw the thing in the trash. I went and got some American Eagles FMJ round nose, and the same thing. This is my first Glock, and I have to say I am not very impressed. I called Glock this morning, and they said to take it back where I bought it, and have them look at it, and assured me that they would fix or replace it, but it could take 3 weeks to get it back. What am I suppose to do in the mean time. Why would it take 3 weeks, are there that many guns that they have to repair or what. I was suppose to buy a 19 EXO today, but I think not. My S&W 6906 never had any problems, to bad I already sold it. Any thoughts on the problem.
 
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