I'm just curious to others' opinions, do you think Glock will answer the Shield, PPS, Beretta Nano, SIG P290, etc? The "pocket 9" market has been pretty hot the last year. I know they gave us the G36, but it doesn't seem as though it has been a big seller.
Glock to answer Shield/PPS/Nano/P290?
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wally
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Unless they can make the slides a lot thinner to match the small single stack competition, little point in making a single stack Glock.
Wally, they already have a single stack Glock. You are right on the slide, though. G36 is 1.13" wide, G30 (same caliber in compact) is 1.27". Based on that, I'm guessing a G40 (if that were the single-stack 9) would be 1.04", which is still a bit wider than the Shield et al.
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WinThePennant
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I'd love to get a single-stack Glock, but they will not make one until (I'm convinced) old Gaston kicks the bucket.
sappyg
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@ 2wheels, I'm with you there. Glock may not want the competition already established in the single stack market.
Different markets, the Shield/Nano etc. weren't aimed at the G19.
1) They probably think they already have "answered: with the G26.
2) Probably not because no major LEA or miltary is clamoring for one.
3) They were already running production at full tilt and still about 200,000 units behind - BEFORE Sandy Hook happened. They are doing just fine making the guns currently in their lineup, they're too busy to divert resources designing something new.
4) Gaston doesn't care anymore, he spends his time going to horse shows with his new girlfriend, and his kids and ex wife were pushed out of the business.
2) Probably not because no major LEA or miltary is clamoring for one.
3) They were already running production at full tilt and still about 200,000 units behind - BEFORE Sandy Hook happened. They are doing just fine making the guns currently in their lineup, they're too busy to divert resources designing something new.
4) Gaston doesn't care anymore, he spends his time going to horse shows with his new girlfriend, and his kids and ex wife were pushed out of the business.
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IMO, why as there's not that much of a difference vs G26.
jfrey
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This question came up when I took the armorers course and the instructors answer was simply that Glock is selling so many guns world wide they really aren't worried about what the U. S. market wants. The last numbers I heard they were back ordered about a million guns anyway. There are also rumors of a Glock carbine but no one has ever seen one. Not very likely anyone will see one in the near future either.
wally
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This is the beauty of the free market system, if market demand is there, someone will fill it!
S&W and SA seem to be selling all the Shields and XDS pistols they can make, so they seem to have found pent-up market demand and made product to satisfy it.
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If the question is "Single stack Glock?" The answer is Walther PPS!
wally
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Kahr PM40 is my carry 90+% of the time, but the trigger is very different from a Glock. Its a feature for me, could be a bug for you.
It's the same market: a compact 9mm. The only difference is the ONE variable of the g19s double-stack magazine, and it's higher capacity.
Whether Glock haters want to admit it or not: EVERY poly manufacturer out there has GOT to analyze Glcok products before taking another step in their R&R process.
The only time the Shield or Nano-like pistols have any advantage is on a person SO SMALL that the print difference can be seen on them, and then you are almost talking about humans the size of children.
Glock doesn't answer to the competitors beneath them, do they? Take a look at the exact size specs of these 3 pistols: the biggest difference is in loaded weight, as the G19 hauls almost double the 9mm.
Nobodys hating on Glock, but they're different guns for different markets.
The G19 is a cutdown service pistol, Beretta and S&W already have cutdown versions of their fullsize guns, the M&P and PX4 Compacts.
Guns like the Nano and the Shield are different animals, aimed straight at the subcompact/pocket 9mm niche that guns from Kimber, Ruger, KelTec, Kahr, etc. are fighting over. If the size specs were so similar, I'd bet more people would be pocket carrying G19s... The G26 is the better comparison, but even that's a little on the thick side (hence people asking for a single stack Glock).
Quack
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Glock is slow to change, just look how long it took for them to go with changeable back straps. I don't think Glock is worried about the concealed carry market wanting a single stack 9/40. It's been something Glock owners have been wanting for years and its never happened. What I do think will hurt them are the people that buy the Shield and find they like the M&P design and switch guns. When Glock starts seeing that its losing market share, that will be when they make a comparable gun. Until that time comes, I don't think there will be a single stack 9/40 Glock.
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I'm not so sure Glock should enter the single stack 9 / 40 market at all. The baby Glocks are still flying off the shelves even in the face of a full on single stack assault. They would sell a ton of 'em, but would they gain anything if it took sales away from the G26, and 27? I wouldn't think so. I waited, and waited, and waited, to find a M&P Shield. After months, I grabbed one up, had problems in the first range trip, and I'm back to my XD40sc.
I doubt we will ever see anything like the Shield or Nano from Glock and why should we? I don't think Glock is looking for new civilian markets and government markets are not interested in pocket pistols. Glock would have to practically start an a whole new business to sell these little guns we love so much.
LOL... Since when aren't children humans? It's not just about "print," it's about comfort and carry options. In warm weather I'd rather have 6 or 7 rounds of single stack 9mm in a pocket or under a shirt than trying to carry and conceal a double stack...anything.. and I'm not a small statured person.....
Single stack, easily concealed, carry guns seem to be the hot ticket right now but talk of a mag limit might fire up double stack sales.
Glock sat around complacent for too long... they can still get in the game but they missed an opportunity...
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TimboKhan
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Just to put one argument to rest, there is absolutely no comparison between the markets for a G19 and a Nano or a Shield.
You could make the argument for a G26, I suppose, but I really don't even think thats a fair comparison given that the G26 predates those particular guns by many years, is double stacked, and pretty much continues to dominate the market for which it was intended.
You could make the argument for a G26, I suppose, but I really don't even think thats a fair comparison given that the G26 predates those particular guns by many years, is double stacked, and pretty much continues to dominate the market for which it was intended.
g_one
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IMHO if you're willing to take the break in round count to go down to single stack, just get a J frame. I love my G26, love the way it fits in my hand, and anything smaller I think would just be too small.
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